2013 Retro Uprising Gaming Champ

[Slime Slayer]

Originally Posted by Winnebagel

Can anyone confirm if AVP loops? I thought it did, but I might be thinking of ALIENS which definitely does loop.

Id guess it does not loop, the WR is apparently just over 3 million, while your first place sits at around 2.6.... just a guess of course.

The only game I think we should remove is chicken shift, and that's just based on the fact I don't find it fun.

[Winnebagel]

Originally Posted by stevencassidy13

Id guess it does not loop, the WR is apparently just over 3 million, while your first place sits at around 2.6.... just a guess of course.

The only game I think we should remove is chicken shift, and that's just based on the fact I don't find it fun.

I may try it later in Full Mode to see what happens after you beat it. If it loops, I don't see why it couldn't be in.

[Seahawk]

I just want to say thank you to everyone for coming out to discuss, I was worried nobody was caring.

[Wolf]

are we not doing the percentage this year I though it would be a great idea.

[elrod21]

Last time I played AVP through it didn't loop but there could be a setting that allows it to.

As you said Aliens definitely does. Love that game.

[Slime Slayer]

One thing for sure would be a topic that updates the standings every week or so, this should bump it in the "new posts" too. That would serve as a good reminder, and also inform newbies of it in case they want to jump in midway.

[Kong]

Originally Posted by D.B. Cooper

Enduro Racer - Arcade/Coin-Op
Turbo Out Run - Arcade/Coin-Op
Continental Circus - Arcade/Coin-Op

Look good to me. Can anyone eliminate 2.

Alpine Ski - Arcade/Coin-Op
Parallel Turn - Arcade/Coin-Op

I don't really consider those "sports" games.

Originally Posted by bearhawk72

Run N' Gun: Wild West COWBoys of Moo Mesa - Arcade/Coin-Op

Good.
Also Gun Smoke - Arcade/Coin-Op.

"Sport" Heavy Smash: Future Sports - Arcade/Coin-Op

Looks good. Does anyone know if it is likely that we will max out the score?
There is also this Cyberball » Genesis. Not the best football game but it is the only one I know of that has a score system that will work for this.

Originally Posted by Winnebagel

Why do you think these are too short? I thought some of these games looped?

They do loop but they have all been beaten here before. I think games that haven't been beaten before, like X-Men are much more exciting. When you beat X-Men we were all amazed and rooting for you. When you beat AVP we will all be expecting it. Different level of excitement. If the second loop doesn't increase in difficulty then it is just a marathon.

I'm not familiar with Flipper Slipper, but why would something being hard disqualify it?

The difficulty increases each level. It quickly gets to the point where it is probably impossible to play. There wont be a big point spread.

Super Bagman is okay, but also can be heavily farmed in certain spots (legally on a timer). This could make the game boring, but I'm not 100% against it.

There are a lot of games to choose from for this genre. We should be able to find something that doesn't have any problems. Dig Dug? Burger Time? Frogger?

Originally Posted by elrod21

WB is right about Super Punchout for the SNES, the scores reset after each circuit, It is not a good title for score chasing.

OK. Removed.

Originally Posted by wolfman24

are we not doing the percentage this year I though it would be a great idea.

No. It makes certain games more important than others. Not fair.

Originally Posted by stevencassidy13

One thing for sure would be a topic that updates the standings every week or so, this should bump it in the "new posts" too.

Good idea. If I haven't done it by February someone remind me again.

Last year I tried to post whenever first place golden mushroom changed hands.

Recap

1. Arcade Shooter - Battlantis » Coin Op
2. Beat'Em Up - Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - Turtles in Time » Coin Op
3. Beat'Em Up Adventure - Dungeon Magic - Arcade/Coin-Op.
4. Bullet Hell - DonPachi » Coin Op.
5. Drop - De-Block » Nintendo.
6. Street Fighter - Street Fighter 2, Super: Turbo » Coin Op.
7. Mouse - Alien 3: The Gun - Arcade/Coin-Op.
8. Pinball - Devil's Crush » Turbo Grafx-16.
9. Single Screen Racing - Ironman Stewart's Super Off Road - Arcade/Coin-Op.
10. Olympic - American Gladiators » Nintendo.
11. Strategy - Dune 2: The Building of a Dynasty » Genesis.
12. Maze - Binary Land - Nintendo Entertainment System.
13. Action Puzzle - Lode Runner 3: The Golden Labyrinth - Arcade/Coin-Op
14. Trivia - Add Quiz & Dragons - Arcade/Coin-Op or nothing or new suggestion.
15. Rail Shooter - Dynamite Duke - Arcade/Coin-Op.
16. Multi-Directional Shooter - Smash TV - Arcade/Coin-Op.

The undecideds.
Shooter - Star Force - Arcade/Coin-Op or Adventures of Dino Riki - Nintendo Entertainment System. Let's keep this genre for sure.

Run'N Jump - New Zealand Story - Arcade/Coin-Op or a new suggestion. Let's keep this genre for sure. I would like a new suggestion for this. Think Super Mario Bros. but with unlimited scoring.

Break Out - Thunder & Lightning - Arcade/Coin-Op or Arkanoid Tournament - Arcade/Coin-Op

Racing - Lethal Crash Race - Arcade/Coin-Op or Enduro Racer - Arcade/Coin-Op or Turbo Out Run - Arcade/Coin-Op or Continental Circus - Arcade/Coin-Op or nothing

Sports - Heavy Smash: Future Sports - Arcade/Coin-Op or Cyberball or nothing.

Run'N Gun - Wild West COWBoys of Moo Mesa - Arcade/Coin-Op or Gun Smoke - Arcade/Coin-Op

Twitch - Chicken Shift » Coin Op or Super Bishi Bashi Championship - Arcade/Coin-Op or nothing.

Arcade - Super Bagman - Arcade/Coin-Op or Dig Dug or Frogger or Burger Time or new suggestion

[Gamenguru]

I like the list so far. In the undecideds list I would I would pick Star Force as the additional shooter. I also think at least 1 of the racing games should move to the final list.

[Winnebagel]

Originally Posted by Kong

Good.
Also Gun Smoke - Arcade/Coin-Op.

I remember this being good.

They do loop but they have all been beaten here before. I think games that haven't been beaten before, like X-Men are much more exciting. When you beat X-Men we were all amazed and rooting for you. When you beat AVP we will all be expecting it. Different level of excitement. If the second loop doesn't increase in difficulty then it is just a marathon.

I appreciate that. It was a fun run, but if a game loops I don't see how that would be different from something like Frogger that is also the same levels over and over. AVOP is pretty tough too, so not everyone will beat it. I haven't played this in 3-4 years, so I don't know if it gets tougher in successive loops, but it's a popular game. Not sure why the rule would be applied to Beat-em-ups, but not other genres.

Frogger?

I like this option.

Last year I tried to post whenever first place golden mushroom changed hands.

Recap

I think this is sufficient. I wouldn't think it's your responsibility to constantly remind people of the standings when it's right on the contest page for anyone who cares to look. I had almost no time at all last year (I literally gamed for only 4-5 days including the last 1.5 days when I actually played in the GOTY compeition), but I would check now and then to see the standings. It's not hard to do.

Mouse - Alien 3: The Gun - Arcade/Coin-Op.

This is a good idea and something different.

[/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=Red]The undecideds.
Shooter - Star Force - Arcade/Coin-Op

I like this idea, and it's a very hard game, so would be tough to beat.

Adventures of Dino Riki - Nintendo Entertainment System. Let's keep this genre for sure.

I've never played this, but it looks fun.

New Zealand Story - Arcade/Coin-Op

Also never played this, but no objections.

http://www.retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/7804/"]Arkanoid Tournament - Arcade/Coin-Op

If I recall, this one was somewhat glitchy, but I may be wrong.

Twitch - Chicken Shift

Not my favorite game either. However, I think it should stay, as it is tough and works well.

I like Frogger, but if people are okay with a bit of legal leeching, Bagman could still work.

[D.B. Cooper]

Star Force loops so there really is no end. There is a 1 Million point bonus but I've never made far enough into the game to get it.

[Winnebagel]

Originally Posted by D.B. Cooper

Star Force loops so there really is no end. There is a 1 Million point bonus but I've never made far enough into the game to get it.

Are you talking about the NES or another version? I thought there was an end in the NES one. I may be wrong, though.

@ Kong: Are we talking about different versions of AVP? I'm talking about the Coin-Op one. As far as I can see, no one on RU has beaten it before. The High Score table says "All", but that gives you that message once you get to a certain level (not if you finish the game). This is the one I mean: Alien vs Predator - Arcade/Coin-Op - Score Board

[Kong]

Originally Posted by Winnebagel

As far as I can see, no one on RU has beaten it before. The High Score table says "All", but that gives you that message once you get to a certain level (not if you finish the game).

Oh, that was the problem. I assumed "All" meant you had beat the game. That is stupid. Problem solved, we can use AVP then.

1. Arcade - Bagman
2. Arcade Shooter - Battlantis » Coin Op
3. Bullet Hell - DonPachi » Coin Op.
4. Shooter - Adventures of Dino Riki - Nintendo Entertainment System
5. Beat'Em Up - Alien vs Predator - Arcade/Coin-Op
6. Beat'Em Up Adventure - Dungeon Magic - Arcade/Coin-Op.
7. Fighter - Street Fighter 2, Super: Turbo » Coin Op.
8. Break Out - Thunder & Lightning - Arcade/Coin-Op
9. Drop - De-Block » Nintendo.
10. Strategy - Dune 2: The Building of a Dynasty » Genesis.
11. Action Puzzle - Lode Runner 3: The Golden Labyrinth - Arcade/Coin-Op
12. Twitch - Chicken Shift
13. Trivia - Quiz & Dragons - Arcade/Coin-Op
14. Maze - Binary Land - Nintendo Entertainment System.
15. Mouse - Alien 3: The Gun - Arcade/Coin-Op.
16. Pinball - Devil's Crush » Turbo Grafx-16.
17. Single Screen Racing - Ironman Stewart's Super Off Road - Arcade/Coin-Op.
18. Olympic - American Gladiators » Nintendo.
19. Run'N Jump -
20. Run'N Gun -
21. Racing or Sports -

Remove Rail Shooter - Dynamite Duke - Arcade/Coin-Op and Multi-Directional Shooter - Smash TV - Arcade/Coin-Op just to keep it closer to 20 games and have less shooting games. I think removing one more genre to get it down to 20 would be good too.

Run'N Jump - a new suggestion please. Let's keep this genre for sure. Think Super Mario Bros. but with unlimited scoring.

Racing - Lethal Crash Race - Arcade/Coin-Op or Enduro Racer - Arcade/Coin-Op or Turbo Out Run - Arcade/Coin-Op or Continental Circus - Arcade/Coin-Op or nothing

Sports - Heavy Smash: Future Sports - Arcade/Coin-Op or Cyberball or nothing.

Run'N Gun - Wild West COWBoys of Moo Mesa - Arcade/Coin-Op or Gun Smoke - Arcade/Coin-Op

A couple people should play Battlantis and comment. I have the high score and can only get to about level 3. If all of the top scores get stuck around level 3 or 5 then it is going to be boring and have a small score spread. If a few people can destroy my current high score then it will be interesting.

A couple people should play Dune 2: The Building of a Dynasty and comment. The score resets every level so you have to play a couple dummy levels before reaching an advanced level where you can get a good high score. Besides that one flaw the game is perfect for this but that is a big flaw. I am also ok with making a new rule that we will add all points from all levels to create a total score. This is a superior scoring system for this type of game but more work for the mods. It would also affect other games with similar score systems such as California Games.

Does anyone know if there is any problems with Quiz & Dragons. I know trivia games often have a problem of no randomization or repeating questions.

[bearhawk72]

Quiz and Dragons is fine, it has a crap ton of questions as far as I can tell and randomizes them pretty well. I've played it a lot and kept getting new questions far more than I got repeat ones.

[Barra]

Battlantis seems alright. I have never played it before and got 20k on my first go. Crap score, but if I played it enough 74k doesnt seem too hard to beat.

[Slime Slayer]

Originally Posted by Winnebagel

I think this is sufficient. I wouldn't think it's your responsibility to constantly remind people of the standings when it's right on the contest page for anyone who cares to look. I had almost no time at all last year (I literally gamed for only 4-5 days including the last 1.5 days when I actually played in the GOTY compeition), but I would check now and then to see the standings. It's not hard to do.

I meant setting up something automated, just something to bump the contest page periodically.

[cheetah32p]

Originally Posted by Kong

The rules and game selection are up for debate until the end of January.

• This is the same as last year's 2012 Gaming Champ Contest.
• The goal is to test everyone across multiple genres and systems to determine who is all around the best player.
• It will last all year.
• Only scores submitted in the games below during 2013 PST ( GMT-8 ) will count.
• You will receive the following points for your highest score in each game:
  • 1st place = 25
  • 2nd place = 15
  • 3rd place = 10
  • 4th place = 7
  • 5th place = 6
  • 6th place = 5
  • 7th place = 4
  • 8th place = 3
  • 9th place = 2
  • 10th and beyond = 1
• The person that earns the most points will be crowned the best Retro Uprising gamer of 2013.
• Click this link to see the automatically updated scores and ranks.
• The games:

1. Arcade » Adventures Of Tron » Atari 2600
2. Arcade Shooter » Battlantis » Coin Op
3. Beat'Em Up » Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - Turtles in Time » Coin Op
4. Bullet Hell » DonPachi » Coin Op
5. Drop » De-Block » Nintendo
6. Dungeon Crawler » Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer » Super Nintendo
7. Fighter » Street Fighter 2, Super: Turbo » Coin Op
8. Mouse/Gun » Lethal Enforcers » Coin Op
9. Pinball » Devil's Crush » Turbo Grafx-16
10. Puzzle » Lup Lup Puzzle » Coin Op
11. Racing » Championship Pro Am » Genesis
12. Run'N Jump » Bonk's Adventure 3: Bonk's Big Adventure » Turbo Grafx-16
13. Sports » American Gladiators » Nintendo
14. Strategy » Dune 2: The Building of a Dynasty » Genesis
15. Twitch » Chicken Shift » Coin Op

Good luck and happy gaming!

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[Barra]

I dont think Dune 2: The Building of a Dynasty should be included or the reasons mentioned in Kong's above post.

[Kong]

Originally Posted by Barra

I dont think Dune 2: The Building of a Dynasty should be included or the reasons mentioned in Kong's above post.

What about this?

I am also ok with making a new rule that we will add all points from all levels to create a total score.

[Barra]

Don't we then have to create that rule for every game using the same or similar scoring system?

[elrod21]

To me that is too much extra work especially in a long playthrough. I think Dune 2 should be out.

[Jack Bando]

If Dune 2 goes (which I'm kind of in favor for it leaving) I suggest replacing it with a game that screams retro. One of the following coin-op games:

Space Invaders
Asteroids
Centipede
Donkey Kong Junior
Frogger
Pac Man
Donkey Kong
Burgertime
Q*bert
Ms. Pac Man
Galaga
Dig Dug

[Kong]

Originally Posted by Barra

Don't we then have to create that rule for every game using the same or similar scoring system?

Yes.

Originally Posted by elrod21

To me that is too much extra work especially in a long playthrough. I think Dune 2 should be out.

Since you will be one of the ones doing the extra work, I will leave the rule as is and veto the game from the contest.

I'll work on making it easier to score these types of games this year and it can be used next year.

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We really need a good SMB type game.

[Slime Slayer]

Originally Posted by Kong

We really need a good SMB type game.

As in a platformer? Whay about Karnov? There is obviously a ton, but this just popped into my head.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUyHeG-Dj4I]Karnov Arcade USA Scene 1 to 5 - YouTube[/ame]

[Barra]

Karnov looks too easy to max out at 999,999. Several people have done it at TG and MARP so I assume at least a couple of people would here.

[elrod21]

The Arcade Karnov is one of those games where once you learn what to do and what items to use exactly where, it becomes really easy. Until that point it will seem like an extremely hard game.

I had friends that could max out the score quite handily at the corner store by my house when I was younger so I imagine we definitely have gamers here who could do it already.