Autofire issue

**PP1969GR** · 01-02-2017, 12:45 PM

I received a pm that I used autofire in Cotton and therefore my Cotton score is deleted... And that next time they 'll delete all of my games.

Does site check all games for autofire? Or just mines?
The rest of players have never used autofire in their uploaded games?

**elrod21** · 01-02-2017, 01:09 PM

Autofire is and has always been against the rules. When I was a game mod we definitely checked for it and I am sure they still do.

**PP1969GR** · 01-02-2017, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by elrod21

Autofire is and has always been against the rules. When I was a game mod we definitely checked for it and I am sure they still do.

I asked an inp from TIF to examine it, and they refuse.
What does this shows to you?

And by the way, its funny to threat me that they 'll delete my scores when they don't upload them.
I 'm waiting months for two 1st places of Major Title, and now my latest game of Pocket Racer.
Site has serious problems but instead of fix them, they prefer to hunt the good players(not the hackers)

**krehztim** · 01-02-2017, 02:17 PM

It shows we don't send INPs from other users to other users. I was using sarcasm in my PM to you. When you're caught cheating, it's on you to prove you didn't, it's not on us to prove that every other user ISN'T cheating. You want to watch TIFs replay? Become a donor. You can find enough loose coins in your furniture or automobile to become a donor.

Deleting scores for violating rules isn't threatening, it's just policy. Don't violate the rules, and there won't be a problem. No one "uploads" your scores, they are already uploaded. We verify and/or approve your scores. Play another game of Pocket Racer, because you just got beat.

It's simple. You chose to violate the rules, we detected it, and now you've decided to attack us and get nasty. You still refuse to deny that you used auto-fire. If you're not decent enough to admit it, then at least shut up and move on.

**PP1969GR** · 01-02-2017, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by krehztim

It shows we don't send INPs from other users to other users. I was using sarcasm in my PM to you. When you're caught cheating, it's on you to prove you didn't, it's not on us to prove that every other user ISN'T cheating. You want to watch TIFs replay? Become a donor. You can find enough loose coins in your furniture or automobile to become a donor.

Deleting scores for violating rules isn't threatening, it's just policy. Don't violate the rules, and there won't be a problem. No one "uploads" your scores, they are already uploaded. We verify and/or approve your scores. Play another game of Pocket Racer, because you just got beat.

It's simple. You chose to violate the rules, we detected it, and now you've decided to attack us and get nasty. You still refuse to deny that you used auto-fire. If you're not decent enough to admit it, then at least shut up and move on.

I do not want to watch his inp, I want to examine it for tricks...
The point is not if I once used autofire or not. Its why you focus on me.
And mostly, why you protect hackers.
Tell "shut up" to your pappa.

**TodayIsForgotten** · 01-02-2017, 03:17 PM

Here is my cheating device: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3F...ew?usp=sharing

**krehztim** · 01-02-2017, 04:09 PM

I focused on you because you used autofire you asshat.

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Originally Posted by PP1969GR

I do not want to watch his inp, I want to examine it for tricks...
The point is not if I once used autofire or not. Its why you focus on me.
And mostly, why you protect hackers.
Tell "shut up" to your pappa.

**PP1969GR** · 01-02-2017, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by krehztim

I focused on you because you used autofire you asshat.

Only me used autofire, you turkey?

Very strange attitude, so far we had a good communication via pm, suddenly you became mean and rude, is it because I discovered something?...

**krehztim** · 01-02-2017, 04:53 PM

Like I said, I've always been patient and civil, but then you got caught, and you started attacking everyone else, and accusing me of doing things I didn't do. What did you expect me to do, just bend over and take it, or for me to defend myself against your nonsense? Everything was perfectly fine until you cheated, got caught, and deflected your mistake onto everyone else, including me, RU in general, and TIF. Take responsibility for the decisions and actions YOU took, and stop blaming everyone else. No one's out to get you. You f'ed up, you got called out on it, move on and keep playing. You made this a HUGE issue when it shouldn't have been.

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Originally Posted by PP1969GR

Only me used autofire, you turkey?

Very strange attitude, so far we had a good communication via pm, suddenly you became mean and rude, is it because I discovered something?...

**PP1969GR** · 01-02-2017, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by krehztim

Like I said, I've always been patient and civil, but then you got caught, and you started attacking everyone else, and accusing me of doing things I didn't do. What did you expect me to do, just bend over and take it, or for me to defend myself against your nonsense? Everything was perfectly fine until you cheated, got caught, and deflected your mistake onto everyone else, including me, RU in general, and TIF. Take responsibility for the decisions and actions YOU took, and stop blaming everyone else. No one's out to get you. You f'ed up, you got called out on it, move on and keep playing. You made this a HUGE issue when it shouldn't have been.

Dont write craps. Was it you who were patient or me? So many times I had to send you pm for site's problems, wrong scores, no uploads etc.
"I got caught"? Caught to what, a poor second place?
And about TIF, you promised me to show that inp, remember? This is what you told me in pm:
"Once I verify and approve his score, I will try to remember to send you the inp".
What happened meanwhile and changed you?

**krehztim** · 01-02-2017, 05:20 PM

Sarcasm -

the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.

And when I send you coherent messages that aren't attacking you, you start posting complete garbage:

"Just do your job, no useless blablabla."

"Didnt expect such attitude and threats after all these hours of gaming I spent here and the help I gave...
I have real scores, I upload them in marp. Tif does not, he is afraid, they ll get him.
You prefer to protect the hacker and attack to me... I m really shocked"

Someone is better than you, and they're a "hacker"? Get over yourself.

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Originally Posted by PP1969GR

"Once I verify and approve his score, I will try to remember to send you the inp".
What happened meanwhile and changed you?

**PP1969GR** · 01-02-2017, 05:27 PM

Aa, it was... sarcasm. Ok you are convincing

If he's so good(no only than me, than anyone) why don't you give that inp for checking? What are you afraid of?

**Kong** · 01-02-2017, 05:50 PM

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"Just do your job"

Correction, hobby. krehztim is an unpaid volunteer who spends many hours every week providing a service for you for free. Be grateful and respectful for his service to you or you will be banned.

Read the rules
Retro Uprising - FAQ

"Do NOT use controllers with Turbo Fire, Auto Fire or Slow Mo buttons."

"If you make an innocent mistake you will receive a warning and your score will be deleted. If you intentionally cheat or receive multiple warnings then you may be banned and all of your scores deleted."

Did you use autofire? Yes.

Is autofire against the rules? Yes.

Is continuing to use autofire, after being warned to read the rules, punished by having all your scores deleted? Yes.

Were you informed of this rule? Yes.

Who can view INPs? Donors.

Can you see TIF's INP? Yes, but only if you become a donor.

Are you being treated like everyone else? Yes.

Will you accept these facts or continue to be a sore loser?

**PP1969GR** · 01-02-2017, 06:00 PM

We are all grateful for the unpaid mods, but when we make a score after hours of effort and its not uploaded, it is our fault?
The duty of this site is to respect gamers and upload their scores. Yes or no? If answer is no, then I think it should be written in homepage.

Autofire rule is for everybody or for me only? There are many scores here made by autofire, you know it. You dont check inps for a/f. For a reason you checked an inp of mine. And not with technical means.

I do not want to see the inp. Watching an inp means nothing. I want to examine it for illegal tricks, like autofire.

No need to threat me with ban, if you want to leave I 'll leave.

Am I a "sore loser" just because I want justice and fair gaming for all?

**Kong** · 01-02-2017, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PP1969GR

but when we make a score after hours of effort and its not uploaded, it is our fault?

No one ever said that was your fault. It is the server's fault and my job to fix it and it has taken me way too long to fix it, but I am working on it.

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The duty of this site is to respect gamers and upload their scores.

Yes and to verify that there is no cheating and that everyone is following the rules.

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Autofire rule is for everybody or for me only?

For everybody. Click the Rules link at the top of the page and search for autofire. It has been there for a decade. You are not special.

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No need to threat me with ban, if you want to leave I 'll leave.

I am informing you of the rules and consequences. The consequence for repeatedly and deliberately cheating is having your scores deleted. The consequence for being disrespectful is being banned.

Seems to me you think we are picking on you and that you think we allow TiF to cheat because he beat your score cheated score. First that is not true. Second it was possible to ask that question and not be rude.

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Am I a "sore loser" just because I want justice and fair gaming for all?

No you are a sore loser because you are upset that we wont let you cheat.

**PP1969GR** · 01-02-2017, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kong

No you are a sore loser because you are upset that we wont let you cheat.

Ha ha, is this what you understood from the whole situation?
That my only purpose was a cheap a/f cheat for a poor second place?

Well let me make it clear then, my point was to catch that tif player.
I see you won't give his inp file, ok its your right.
It is my right to keep my suspicions as well.

**krehztim** · 01-02-2017, 06:58 PM

None of this would have been a problem had you not cheated. Period. End of story. Man up and accept responsibility for causing the problem in the first place. You seriously expect someone to believe that you purposefully used auto-fire to catch TIF cheating?? Like I said - YOU caused the problem. No more from me on this issue, you've wasted half my day as it is.

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Originally Posted by PP1969GR

Ha ha, is this what you understood from the whole situation?
That my only purpose was a cheap a/f cheat for a poor second place?

Well let me make it clear then, my point was to catch that tif player.
I see you won't give his inp file, ok its your right.
It is my right to keep my suspicions as well.

**Kong** · 01-02-2017, 07:01 PM

From the rules: "No "Flaming" or "Trolling". Do not post any message that harasses, insults, belittles or threatens other members."

Everyone is held to the same rules, TiF isn't breaking them, you are. Stop accusing him of cheating.

You have received your answer multiple times in this thread and in PMs.

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Originally Posted by krehztim

You want to watch TIFs replay? Become a donor. You can find enough loose coins in your furniture or automobile to become a donor.

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Originally Posted by Kong

Who can view INPs? Donors.
Can you see TIF's INP? Yes, but only if you become a donor.

**PP1969GR** · 01-02-2017, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by krehztim

None of this would have been a problem had you not cheated. Period. End of story. Man up and accept responsibility for causing the problem in the first place. You seriously expect someone to believe that you purposefully used auto-fire to catch TIF cheating?? Like I said - YOU caused the problem. No more from me on this issue, you've wasted half my day as it is.

I forced tif to make greater and greater score, now he made 520k in Cotton which is bigger than marp's one(!)
What else would I earn by a cheap second place?
You believe that I can't get second place in normal fire?

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Originally Posted by Kong

From the rules: "No "Flaming" or "Trolling". Do not post any message that harasses, insults, belittles or threatens other members."

Everyone is held to the same rules, TiF isn't breaking them, you are. Stop accusing him of cheating.

You have received your answer multiple times in this thread and in PMs.

Once again, you're talking about donors who watch inps, I dont want just watch the inp, I need the inp file.

I wouldn't accuse anyone but, you know, it was krehztim who promised to give me the file...

**George Riley** · 01-02-2017, 07:29 PM

Just a note about TIF. Remember this. He has participated in the Yolympics, and most of the time he plays on MAME for that instead of R.U. Guess what? They check for autofire, and the like as well. He does great in these tournaments despite being on another site. The facts are simple. TIF simply is a very, very, very good classic gamer. One of the best in the country, and easily makes my top 10.
As far as you, yeah, you can't do autofire. Neither can I, or TIF or anyone else for that matter.

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By the way. You want .inp files from TIF? Well here is the 2016 Yolympics. It still has all his files, and there many shooter games. So have at it. Look at file after file, and see what you come up with.
Twin Galaxies Tournaments

**krehztim** · 01-02-2017, 07:33 PM

Thanks, George. Great idea. Download and analyze to your heart's content.

Hmm. Shooters, fighters, run and guns, platforms, bullet hells, breakouts, and sports games. This TIF guy must be really good. Think of all the time he had to have spent manipulating all of those INPs.

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By the way. You want .inp files from TIF? Well here is the 2016 Yolympics. It still has all his files, and there many shooter games. So have at it. Look at file after file, and see what you come up with.
Twin Galaxies Tournaments

**TodayIsForgotten** · 01-02-2017, 09:31 PM

I am working on a 1cc of Cotton. I can't stop messing up when it counts.

Thanks for the kind words, George and Tim.

I'll consider it an honor that people think i am cheating.

Oh and PP. The reason i do not post on Marp is not because I am afraid but becuase I personally do not get caught up in the whose-who or Internet "celebrity." I simply play for the fun (and sure some competitiveness)

**elrod21** · 01-02-2017, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TodayIsForgotten

I am working on a 1cc of Cotton. I can't stop messing up when it counts.

Thanks for the kind words, George and Tim.

I'll consider it an honor that people think i am cheating.

Oh and PP. The reason i do not post on Marp is not because I am afraid but becuase I personally do not get caught up in the whose-who or Internet "celebrity." I simply play for the fun (and sure some competitiveness)

I think you mean not cheating don't you buddy?

I used to be top of this site before TIF came along but you don't hear me complaining about him taking over do you? That's because he is legitimately good and I trust the game mods at this site. Noone is try to keep anyone down here. That is just ridiculous.

You want to beat TIF? Practice like crazy and hope for the best because you are challenging one of the best.

**PP1969GR** · 01-02-2017, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TodayIsForgotten

Oh and PP. The reason i do not post on Marp is not because I am afraid but becuase I personally do not get caught up in the whose-who or Internet "celebrity." I simply play for the fun (and sure some competitiveness)

And the rest of us we 're playing for what? cash?

Can you play a Cotton game about 500k and give me the inp?
It will be a piece of cake for you and will take just 15' from your time.

**TodayIsForgotten** · 01-03-2017, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by PP1969GR

And the rest of us we 're playing for what? cash?

Can you play a Cotton game about 500k and give me the inp?
It will be a piece of cake for you and will take just 15' from your time.

What if i play it completely different but still net 500k? haha.

I don't see why i cannot do that. I also do not have a time frame for you but i will get you a 500k inp.

Edit * here it is. 513k. Stopped after second death didn't like how it was going.

I used mame .148 (jan 14 2013).

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3...kRTb0ktRlFvX1U

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i just rewatched the inp and it shows me at 376k and then dying just before the stage 4 boss on the spike wall (no possible way unless i am retarded). That did not happen. I died at the end of stage 5 on my second death and stopped. Must of de-synced. Sorry. Oh well.

Last edit* Looks like using fast forward intermittently eventually de-synced. I watched it again and it played correctly(at least up and until beating the 4th stage boss).