Strange phenomenon in the sky

[RU Joe]

There are some weird things in the sky lately.
Here are the ones I have seen, and if you guys know of any other recent events then please post them and let's discuss.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAcbIQpNBD0"]YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtMSQRI1dSs"]YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.[/ame]
I think there is some significance to these things, and I believe they are related to each other.

[joz]

I think we don't know enough to verify what exactly these phenomenons are. It could be some sort of light refraction of some sort kind of like at the auras we get towards the north pole. I believe you can visually see those from Alaska and Canada. I don't think they are extraterrestrial related. Military maybe more plausable.

[RU Joe]

Josman3000:

I believe you can visually see those from Alaska and Canada.

There were a few really quiet nights in northern Alberta when I could actually
HEAR the northern lights.
They make a strange 'crackling' sound.
(I was in the middle of a forest with no one around, what else could have made a noise like that?
And no, it wasn't the snow shifting in the wind, either)
In recent years they have been visible as far south as the US proper, which says to me that there is something happening with the Earth's magnetic fields.

I don't think they are extraterrestrial related.

That's one of the first things I hear people say they think it is.
I believe that's because of the way the clouds formed on the first video.
The second one is an unusual light in the sky, so I think it's natural to assume a UFO.

Personally I believe it is the military playing around with H.A.R.R.P. again, and that it is responsible for a lot of the strange weather lately.
I think they are doing it so as to scare us into thinking it is happening due to our 'Carbon emmissons', so that we will be more willing to buy
'Carbon Credits'.
If they can get us to believe it is caused by Human activity, they can guilt us into paying them.

[joz]

scare tactics are not new and are very effective most of the time. I think we should feel guilty about how big our carbon footprint is as a whole, because we are guilty. The amount of carbon emmissons we produce are enormous and cannot be ignored. If the people would all get together and demand, as well as help fund, for more eco friendly energy sources, scare tactics like using HARRP wouldn't be needed. But that's just what I think.

[RU Joe]

Jozman3000:

If the people would all get together and demand, as well as help fund, for more eco friendly energy sources, scare tactics like using HARRP wouldn't be needed. But that's just what I think.

In a way you are right, in that people ARE demanding and creating new eco-friendly products to produce electricity and heat, as well as new highly efficient transport.
What happens is that the oil oligarchy, who are the same people who brought us the energy-deficit 'Bio-fuels' (Cornholio gas) actively block the production of these technologies.

Like where they took and buried the electric car, literally.
Documentary Film Video Electric Cars buried by Black Oil Money
this is only one example of how they maintain their financial grip on Humanity's progress.

scare tactics are not new and are very effective most of the time.

Problem - reaction - solution is their favorite method of manipulating us.

I think we should feel guilty about how big our carbon footprint is as a whole, because we are guilty. The amount of carbon emmissons we produce are enormous and cannot be ignored.

I am not disagreeing with you personally, but this argument about Carbon being a 'deadly poison' that is 'killing the Earth' is ridiculous.
If you have not watched the documentary
'Fall of the Republic', I highly recommend you do so as it details just how the establishment has created and maintained this hoax through the mainstream corporate media .
It is currently posted in the
'Current USA Predicament' thread.

Please remember that the man at the center of their Global Warming/Carbon Taxation scam is the very same man who told us we were certainly headed for another ice age back in the 1970's:
Al Gore.

[joz]

Yeah I read about the death of the electric car and saw videos on that. It sucks how car companies created various E-Vehicles only to stop production and scrap the ones already made. They even went to the extent of getting most of the electric cars back from people who bought them.

[XERQ GRANITE]

I'm not really sure what to make of it, but I have no doubt it could be UFO related, just recently I was sitting in my window looking outside (it was like 11PM - Midnight) and I saw what appeared to be a star, but it kept flashing different colors, and as I kept watching it, it started to move like really slowly from side to side, and I went out to the living room n got my friend to come see (cause I thought it may've just been my eyes playing tricks on me) and he saw it moving n flashing colors aswell, and what's more, we were pointing out exactly hen it was moving and where at the same exact time, so there's no way it was just our eyes playing tricks on us, I fully beleive UFO's exist (Aliens piloting the UFO's though, I'm not too sure of... I believe aliens exist, but I'm not convinced that their the ones operating the UFO's though... I'm leaning more towards the Government being in control of them). I also fully believe that Dragons exist too, cause back in summerschool (between 5th & 6th grade) me n one of my other friends saw what appeared to be a Dragon flying past the school! It was very odd though, it flew right past the sun and diddn't cast a shadow, and even though it was way up above the clouds, you could still pretty much make out every little detail on it 0_0

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What if it's a wormhole?? 0_0 (The phenomenon in the sky)

[RU Joe]

XG:

What if it's a wormhole?? 0_0 (The phenomenon in the sky)

I'm no expert but I would guess that it's possible, with the government fooling around with particle accelerators and colliders and similar things.

Then there's HAARP {High Altitude Auroral Research Project} which is, at its core, an extremely large Tesla coil array.
Tesla was an electronics genius who pioneered many technologies now patented, labeled 'secret', and being further developed and fine - tuned by the military scientists.
Please believe me when I say that the technology being developed {not for sale to anyone anywhere, top secret} by the military is at least 30 years or more ahead of what the common consumer can buy even at the highest tier of electronics devices - prototypes and such.

So getting back to HAARP, if it is a large array of powerful Tesla coils {which is the common conception}, they can control the weather, including creating very large storm cells, create tidal waves, Earthquakes, and even influence peoples' thoughts and emotions.

Tesla warned of this when he made his technology known, and claimed that the 200 watt prototype model could create all of the above effects = with only 200 watts.
The HAARP array is rumored to be in the TeraWatt range {1 TeraWatt = 1 trillion Watts of power}

Regarding what you saw, XG, I have personally seen a lot of strange things in the sky, but all of them are likely to be military aircraft.
It sounds like that could be what you saw, perhaps equipped with the new 'temporary blindness' LED weaponry; they flash it in your eyes and you're blind for a while.
Sort of a tech version of a flash - bang, but this you can aim at people, like from a large array mounted on a helicopter.
Some police have small flashlight sized models.

And lots of people saw dragons in Japan a few years back, and described them as being the elongated, flying snake type.
{as opposed to the European 'dinosaur' type}
Like I always say, there's lots of things we're not aware of yet.

[joz]

I'm leaning towards the "ancient astronaut" theory. It's too much of a coincident that ancient civilizations from: the america's Mayas and Aztecs, Africa's Egyptions and other civilizations around the world to posses such advanced knowledge of the stars, to the point that they even knew about starts, that could only be seen with advanced telescopes, and build such impressive buildings so monumental that even with today's technology it would be a really tough job to complete.

[RU Joe]

Joz, what you're describing sounds a lot like 'The Chariots of the Gods', and I think there's a lot to it.
The carving of the astronaut, seated before control panels and having breathing tubes going in his nose - that sort of thing.



I have a personal belief that everything we regard as 'modern' existed in the past, and that we are 'replaying' our history - that would explain how the Banksters have been in control for hundreds if not thousands of years - because they had 'prior' historical knowledge, and are merely repeating what was done before to suit their own purposes.
Just a theory of mine.

Getting back to temples and such:

I know I've mentioned it once or twice but this one really sticks in my mind as proof positive that we have been contacted by Aliens, if only in the distant past {or my repeating history theory, whichever}:

There is a temple whose walls were enormous pieces of stone fitted together with laser precision in such a way that they interlocked with each other, the top one fitting perfectly with the one on the bottom and in turn the ones next to them, eliminating the need for mortar or other fastening materials.

The stone slabs are said to be too large to lift, even with modern equipment, and that there are marks along the stone's sides that resemble those made by modern machinery.

AS if that wasn't enough, there's an inscription at the top of the doorway which led into the temple which read something like:

'This is not a temple to a Deity, but a house for a living God'
and there are carvings showing a snake - headed or reptilian life form on the throne.

I wonder if David Icke knows about this?

[joz]

Actually that's exactly what I was referring to JoeGrow. I haven't read the book, but I'm probably going to order it next month. I still have two other books I want to read.

It would be great if you remember the name of that temple you speak of. I'd like to look it up.

[RU Joe]

I think it was in the documentary
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhOxHkMSkBE]YouTube - Chariots of the Gods Part 1[/ame]

At any rate it ties in with what David Icke says perfectly.
I'm talking about his hypothesis that the elites being part of a reptilian hybrid species who have been chosen to rule by the Alien race that spawned them.
It's because they aren't really human that they have no qualms about funding and starting wars in which we real Humans fight and die in multitudes.
I actually entertain these ideas as possible in light of the EVIL things they do.

IN the average city they {give orders to have these things done}:

Put Sodium Fluoride in water and toothpaste that attacks your whole body, Mercury in the vaccines to induce partial chemical labotomies, MSG and Aspartame in the food that cause a multitude of health problems and are addictive, Genetically modified crops to make us all sterile within a few generations, storing and dumping of toxic and radioactive wastes where people live ... and I could provide so many more examples of why these 'people' need to be removed from power.

I should clarify that I don't fully believe that they are reptilian hybrids, but their cold behavior almost fits the bill; they are like snakes, unfeeling and uncaring about anyone but themselves.
Even if they aren't any sort of Alien spawn they are still psychotic and need to be removed.

[Winnebagel]

I really want to read Chariots of the Gods too. Van Dannaken took a beating by a lot of people just because he had different theories.

I think the ruins you are talking about is Puma Punku. It is amazing in that there is almost no explanation to this day of how they were made so perfectly.

Ancient Mysteries - Puma Punku in Tiahuanaco

[RU Joe]

+1 WB, thank you so much for the awesome link, now I don't feel like I left Everyone hanging, you know?

'I love it when a plan comes together.'
- Hannibal from the A - Team
by the way, you are Hannibal, WB.
You da man.

I really want to read Chariots of the Gods too. Van Dannaken took a beating by a lot of people just because he had different theories.

People always seem to follow this pattern {when someone comes up with a new theory that goes against conventional teachings} which we see applied to the Global Awakening, the Truth movement {people who doubt the official story and such, and try to spread the word to everybody}

First they laugh at and ridicule you
Second they get angry and attack you
Third they come to their senses and see that what you're saying is true.

I think the ruins you are talking about is Puma Punku. It is amazing in that there is almost no explanation to this day of how they were made so perfectly.

I am of the opinion that there are a few possible explanations for this:

1. Technology that could have made those structures existed in the past, and has been suppressed by the ruling class {after all they kept the printing press from the 'Western World for 600 years - the Chinese had it all that time}

2. The Alien reptilian race were in fact real creatures with technology more advanced than our own which is capable of making those structures and/ or taught Humans how to build those structures using Earth materials.

3. My theory of how we are repeating history in the sense that everything we regard as 'new technology' has existed in the past is correct, and that would mean that we are enjoying one of the high points before everything is destroyed by a Global cataclysm and must begin again from the start.
This theory is supported by the archeological dig that found what is described as a nuclear blast site - thousands of years old, buried underground.
Apparently they came across glass which had been formed from the sand of a desert floor, and had fused under tremendous heat.

This, combined with the fact that only a nuclear explosion would cause such an effect makes me think that perhaps we are only observing one part of an ongoing cycle where Humans build up civilizations and then are destroyed.

Then again perhaps I'm just dreaming, but it doesn't explain away:

The inscriptions at the temple about the living lizard King
The enormous slabs of stone made to fit together like a puzzle with laser precision
Where all the sand fused into glass came from in that archeological dig, and how about those radioactive skeletons, packing the same amount of radiation as those from Hiroshima or Nagasaki?
and I could go on, but

Ok maybe these things aren't directly related, but I think there is a connection in that taken together they paint an interesting picture, don't they?

http://www.s8int.com/atomic1.html
http://ancientx.com/nm/anmviewer.asp?a=60&z=1
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/an..._atomic_12.htm

[joz]

Your "lizard king" theory reminds me of Chrono Trigger. Maybe humanity didn't destroy themselves. Perhaps humans discovered these "lizard" people and had a war against them and all the technology was lost in that epic war. Or maybe it was like in that movie "They Live" with Rawdy Piper and he found some cool shades ran out of bubble gum, and commenced the ass whopping!

( Click to show/hide )

[Dudebro]

Rawdy

You missed twice on that. His real life nickname is Roddy(short for Roderick) and his in ring name was Rowdy. Sorry to nitpick but it jumped off the page to me.

[Winnebagel]

Originally Posted by JoeGrotowski

+1 WB, thank you so much for the awesome link, now I don't feel like I left Everyone hanging, you know?

No problem Joegro. I love this kind of stuff too.

Originally Posted by joego

'I love it when a plan comes together.'
- Hannibal from the A - Team
by the way, you are Hannibal, WB.
You da man.

I get to be Hannibal? Sweet! Who does that make you, B.A., Faceman, or Howlin Mad Murdock? They were all great characters.

Originally Posted by Joegro

People always seem to follow this pattern {when someone comes up with a new theory that goes against conventional teachings} which we see applied to the Global Awakening, the Truth movement {people who doubt the official story and such, and try to spread the word to everybody}

First they laugh at and ridicule you
Second they get angry and attack you
Third they come to their senses and see that what you're saying is true.

I am of the opinion that there are a few possible explanations for this:

1. Technology that could have made those structures existed in the past, and has been suppressed by the ruling class {after all they kept the printing press from the 'Western World for 600 years - the Chinese had it all that time}

2. The Alien reptilian race were in fact real creatures with technology more advanced than our own which is capable of making those structures and/ or taught Humans how to build those structures using Earth materials.

3. My theory of how we are repeating history in the sense that everything we regard as 'new technology' has existed in the past is correct, and that would mean that we are enjoying one of the high points before everything is destroyed by a Global cataclysm and must begin again from the start.
This theory is supported by the archeological dig that found what is described as a nuclear blast site - thousands of years old, buried underground.
Apparently they came across glass which had been formed from the sand of a desert floor, and had fused under tremendous heat.

This, combined with the fact that only a nuclear explosion would cause such an effect makes me think that perhaps we are only observing one part of an ongoing cycle where Humans build up civilizations and then are destroyed.

Then again perhaps I'm just dreaming, but it doesn't explain away:

The inscriptions at the temple about the living lizard King
The enormous slabs of stone made to fit together like a puzzle with laser precision
Where all the sand fused into glass came from in that archeological dig, and how about those radioactive skeletons, packing the same amount of radiation as those from Hiroshima or Nagasaki?
and I could go on, but

Ok maybe these things aren't directly related, but I think there is a connection in that taken together they paint an interesting picture, don't they?

Ooparts & Ancient High Technology--Evidence of Ancient Atomic Knowledge?
Ancient nuclear blasts and levitating stones
Nuclear Events in Ancient India?

I agree with a lot of your points in principle. I don't have all the answers, but there are just so many things in our history that people refuse to talk about at all. Maybe many of the ideas are way off base, but if everything was, why is there such a movement to suppress people from even bringing up certain things at all? It's very weird to me.

I love a lot of the mysteries like this.

@Jozman, the Lizard people are a huge part of UFOlogy mythology. I think in most stories they are the bad race while many times the greys are good, though I think Greys are seen as bad sometimes. It can get confusing.

[joz]

Originally Posted by Dudebro

You missed twice on that. His real life nickname is Roddy(short for Roderick) and his in ring name was Rowdy. Sorry to nitpick but it jumped off the page to me.

Yeah I know, I was just lazy about it and really didn't think that anyone would nitpick at it. I should have known you'd notice that.

[Dudebro]

Originally Posted by jozman3000

Yeah I know, I was just lazy about it and really didn't think that anyone would nitpick at it. I should have known you'd notice that.

Well duh!

[joz]

The Buzz Log - OMG! UFO! Or Maybe Not. - Yahoo! Buzz

[RU Joe]

Whew, I'm so relieved that it's probably just the new Chinese missile.
That really puts my mind at ease.

NOT.
I'd rather take my chances with the U.F.O.