Sony gets pwned by hackers!!!

**fungusman** · 01-02-2011, 06:53 PM

SONY GETS ROCKED! PWNED HARD BY HACKERS!! Retro Shindig

This is insane. So the final keys have been released. It's over. Sony is broken. No need for a mod chip. No need for a jail break. Run signed code from a usb key. Emulators, debugging tools, back ups.

**RU Joe** · 01-02-2011, 07:00 PM

So now would be a good time to buy a Playstation 3 then?

**elrod21** · 01-02-2011, 07:52 PM

It wasn't clear from the article whether this is something that can be patched by Sony, or if this is as such a low level that it can't be patched. Or maybe I missed something.

**fungusman** · 01-02-2011, 08:08 PM

It most likely can't be patched. It's over, this is it.

The key signature is hardware specific. If they were to change it via firmware all the old games which use this key won't work. Also, if there is a dual signature of some sort, the old key would still need to work, thus allowing homebrew to still function.

Basically the only way to fix this is to make PS4 lol.

Also, porting an Arcade OS front end for PS3 is now possible.

**Slime Slayer** · 01-03-2011, 01:56 AM

So does this mean PS3 is the new Dreamcast

?
Considering the DC emulator should be here soon. hehe.

**Kong** · 01-03-2011, 10:20 AM

I don't know much about nexgen but hasn't the 360 and wii been hacked for years? If yes, and they are not being killed then the same should be true for PS3. As EA said, used games sales hurt them much more than piracy.

This is my favorite part.

Quote:

if you want your next console to be secure, get in touch with me. any of you 3.
it'd be fun to be on the other side.

**Tails** · 01-03-2011, 10:28 AM

@Kong: To my understanding, the Wii requires an update to newer games that patches the hacks. Basically if you wanna play something like Kirby Epic Yarn you must take the update.

**Kong** · 01-03-2011, 10:32 AM

So you must have Internet access to play newer games?

**CatalystiCam** · 01-03-2011, 10:39 AM

no, every new game generally comes with the latest update on it...

**fungusman** · 01-03-2011, 02:51 PM

Wii is making tons of money and it's been hacked wide open, Kong is very right.

The main difference that makes this so severe for Sony is now they are, like steve pointed out , the dreamcast, meaning that it has been broken completely wide open. It's very unlikely this can be fixed unless they do A LOT of work. At least Microsoft and Wii have some sort of ability to still detect pirated code.

Insult to injury, since they got the keys to the PS3, a PSP homebrew group got the keys to that system as well. Both systems are now open as of yesterday.

**jim5cents** · 01-03-2011, 03:01 PM

And the average gamer knows how to do this? Not likely. Sony is still going to make their software sales.

@Kong, in a nutshell, if you don't run an update, you can't play on XBL or Wii online, if you don't have internet anyways, then it isn't a problem.

**Tails** · 01-03-2011, 03:02 PM

Fung, so I don't need a pandora battery to get emus on a psp now?

**Kugyince** · 01-03-2011, 03:32 PM

There's a second problem. You can't play newer games on a hacked Wii unless the games are hacked as well. The game discs themselves come with updates that auto-install to prevent/disable modding.

I'm not in favor of this at all. While pirating is illegal if I want to install a program that allows me to run legally downloaded homebrew games on a console that I've purchased I should be able to.

It's akin to a car company installing measures to only allow you to fuel at one specific brand of gas stations.

**CatalystiCam** · 01-03-2011, 05:46 PM

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Fung, so I don't need a pandora battery to get emus on a psp now?

I never needed to mod anything, I got emulators on mine like two months ago through putting a hacked file in a folder of the psp then opening it. I often throw my smw hack I'm working on, on to the psp and let others test it lol.

**Dudebro** · 01-03-2011, 05:48 PM

I agree with you Tenser. If you wanna mod/hack your console offline then you should have every right to do so. I know Microsoft tells people that it's fine offline but if you try to connect to their servers they can and will ban you, your gamertag, your console - depending on the severity of the infraction.

**Slime Slayer** · 01-03-2011, 08:13 PM

The homebrew guys have a tendency of keeping up with the system updates, so just update your hombrew channel, (or whatever) and you should be good to go.

I wonder how this will effect the PS3 sales, I personally have never been so tempted to get one till now. The potential of homebrew on that system is huge.

**Kong** · 01-03-2011, 09:57 PM

Would be nice if they ended up making money off of being hacked and realized that PS4 should be left open.

**fungusman** · 01-03-2011, 11:25 PM

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH7qq7OjJO8"]YouTube - Porky Pig Classic - Thats All Folks! Large[/ame]

http://www.geohot.com/Lv2diag.self

This is the first signed homebrew code.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnra48YR-Vw"]Gentleman, start your engines ![/ame]

Now I was told in confidence the following story. One of my good friends is lead PS3 dev for an unnamed company. Everyone who has a sony developer kit gets access to an official secret developers messageboard to discuss and share information about the SDK (which has been leaked you can download it via bit torrent). When they got rid of the otherOS feature a thread was created about it. There were a lot of angry developers. Chances are if you are working on the hardware/coding for a living it's your hobby as well. ANYWAY, the official sdk being leaked and this thread leads me to believe there will be a lot of help from game companies and people on the inside to get some cool stuff going. I'm sure Sony will have a no tolerance policy about this, however they really messed up when it came to getting rid of linux.

LIST OF HOMEBREW/BACK UP MANAGERS/EMULATORS AVAILABLE FOR PS3 AS OF RIGHT NOW

http://psx-scene.com/forums/f178/ps3...ew-list-68925/

COMPLETE HISTORY OF HACKS ON PS3
http://www.ps3hax.net/2011/01/the-ps...#axzz1A2ZZLseu

**Slime Slayer** · 01-04-2011, 12:13 AM

Haha, not wasting any time are they? DC is aleady up there.

**Smittycal** · 01-04-2011, 09:24 AM

I just say this on youtube...I know 40 min is long so heres a summary lol

Forget jailbreak devices; the same team who broke the Wii wide open now claims to have done the same for the PlayStation 3, leaving Sony's console at the mercy of homebrewers and pirates alike.

During proceedings at the 27th Chaos Communication Conference, a group of hackers gave a presentation called "PS3 Epic fail". You can see where this is going. Sparing you the overly-technical explanation, the team claim to have found the PS3's "private cryptography key", a skeleton key of sorts for the console that would allow users to install and run their own code on the machine.

It's hoped that tools allowing the installation of Linux - something Sony blocked earlier this year - will be released by the group next month. And from there, the sky - or, at least, a ton of pirated and homebrewed games - is the limit

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcbaeKA2moE&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - Console Hacking 2010 - Encoded by J.Alio[/ame]

**Kong** · 01-04-2011, 10:04 AM

Does this mean cheating in online games is unstoppable?

**Smittycal** · 01-04-2011, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kong

Does this mean cheating in online games is unstoppable?

That is very possible. If that happens then I dont think I'll be playing online that often if at all.

I'll just stick to playing games on the console lol..

The other bad side of this I see is Sony could end up doing what Microsoft did moded 360 users they banned a million peoples systems from even getting online and voided there accounts for playing pirated games or having modifed equipment. Whats to keep Sony from doing the same thing.

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What I dont understand is why there is such a hard on for linux?

**fungusman** · 01-04-2011, 01:57 PM

lol Smithy my article posted all that stuff already and the tools were released 2 days ago.

**Smittycal** · 01-04-2011, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by fungusman

lol Smithy my article posted all that stuff already and the tools were released 2 days ago.

I know but watching the video was easier for me to understand.

**Kugyince** · 01-04-2011, 05:01 PM

If someone is cheating in online multi-player or pirating games they should have their account banned.