Rap and hip hop and why it's not good - Page 5

**Dojah** · 07-23-2009, 05:27 PM

Here is one of my favorite groups. I feel these are true hip-hop artists. True poets. ~~Some Bad Language~~
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This is one of my favorite MC's. One of the best poets IMO.~~Some Bad Language~~
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y08s4BlRv1Y"]YouTube - Canibus - Greatest Freestyle[/ame]
I feel hip-hop artists actually use their brain, vocabulary is one big point, word play, metaphor's etc...I feel there is a huge line between rap and hip-hop.

**Dudebro** · 07-23-2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Gucifer

yup i used to listen to rap n hip hop my whole life but my musical taste has evovled from such primitive n close minded music

So you've evolved into a close minded person? That sounds like a personal problem, you should work on that.

**powerfullove** · 07-23-2009, 09:17 PM

I don't get his comment.

**Dudebro** · 07-24-2009, 02:26 AM

Mine or Gucifer?

**powerfullove** · 07-24-2009, 04:20 PM

Gucifer's. I'm guessing he thinks rap and hip are "primitive n close minded?"

**laserboy1134** · 07-24-2009, 08:08 PM

Yes, because being closed minded is a good way to argue that rap is closed minded.

**TrakMastaTom** · 07-24-2009, 09:04 PM

It's a fact, I think all rap is whack
And if you feel like I feel then you aint got no choice but to
Take it back
doo doo doo doo

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzdHFys6N54&feature=related"]YouTube - Skillz feat. The Roots "Take It Back"[/ame]

Anyone that doesn't like rap music needs to read this thread from the beginning. Rap is just like punk rock, country, and even (to me) modern pop rock in the sense that the major label artists are not encouraged to develop as artists and make classic albums, they are encouraged to pump out an album or 2 a year with hooks that will get stuck in people's heads or dance tracks.

I suggest any music fan to watch the documentary "Before the Music Dies" and apply it to all genres of music. You can watch the whole movie on IMDB:
IMDb Video: Before the Music Dies

Dig deep into the genres you dislike and you might be pleasantly surprised. I have gotten tons of rap haters into rap music. I used to hate country, but there is some quality country music out there.

**Dudebro** · 07-25-2009, 03:34 AM

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I used to hate country, but there is some quality country music out there.

Yeah like Johnny Cash
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Some people think country inspired a lot of rap artists(mostly southern ones obviously), it tells a story people care about and it was more like talking than singing(not all songs but a good amount). Modern country is too mainstream like rap has become.

**sezthemank** · 07-25-2009, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dudebro

Yeah, this goes for rap too. I think your view is bias because you dislike rap. It's like me trying to be impartial about Country or ICP, it just won't happen.

There must be other people exept ICP that you dont like?

Have you been looking out of your window at Juggalos again Dudebro?
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**Kugyince** · 07-25-2009, 01:59 PM

I like some country.

Steve Earle is probably my favorite country artist. He's not well known though, even by country music fanatics because he doesn't play that pop country crap.
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**sezthemank** · 07-25-2009, 02:36 PM

Im not keen on country music.
My mum loves it.

My hated of all genres has to be Irish...
The mother has my head done in with it.
Its awfull!

**Dudebro** · 07-26-2009, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by sezthemank

There must be other people exept ICP that you dont like?

Yeah like I said, country. I like some old stuff but that new country stuff is garbage.

**powerfullove** · 07-26-2009, 02:21 AM

Some country can be quite catchy. I've derived some drumming style from country.

**Dudebro** · 07-26-2009, 04:40 AM

Yeah it's not all bad but I dislike the vast majority of it.

**sezthemank** · 07-26-2009, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dudebro

Yeah like I said, country. I like some old stuff but that new country stuff is garbage.

I mean other bands/groups.
There must be someone you hate more than ICP.

**TrakMastaTom** · 07-26-2009, 01:11 PM

BrokenCYDE?
Mickey Avalon?

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**Timber Wolf** · 07-28-2009, 02:22 PM

lmao, the first one was funny, that's all i can give it, really really funny

**justinm26** · 07-28-2009, 04:13 PM

all i can say on this topic without getting in trouble is that gangsta rap/ gangsta rap artists belong buried in the "earf", can i say that i hate the way these people pronounce stuff?

**Dudebro** · 07-28-2009, 04:19 PM

According to some people ICP is rap, how does that factor into your decision justinm26?

**sezthemank** · 07-28-2009, 05:24 PM

I love ICP,
I also love other artists too!

What I love about ICP is their following, and how strong it is.
I am a member of that crazy following and I dont really care what anyone thinks.

I just get annoyed at people who join who aint really Juggaloes.
People who only join because there mates a Juggalo or somthing.

Sorry for ranting but Im just a bit upset with something.

**Smittycal** · 07-28-2009, 10:49 PM

Not a huge fan of ICP but I am a CRAZY fan of Tech N9ne. I wont get into a long story here but I can say I do respect ICP fans and them to an extent lol.

On on the thread topic I AM Hip Hop and I love myself so there you go for what its worth.

**Slime Slayer** · 07-29-2009, 12:17 AM

my god, i cant take it anymore! what the hell is a damn juggolo?

**Smittycal** · 07-29-2009, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by stevencassidy13

my god, i cant take it anymore! what the hell is a damn juggolo?

HAHA I wont tell because my defenition may offend everyone on here and get me banned. I just got here lol.

I will say this Juggalos are EVERYWHERE, even in Canada

**Dudebro** · 07-29-2009, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by stevencassidy13

my god, i cant take it anymore! what the hell is a damn juggolo?

You know wikipedia and google are pretty easy to use right?

**Slime Slayer** · 07-29-2009, 02:24 AM

a sarcastic comment from dudebro!? i never thought id see the day...