Console Wars 2013 [Archive] - Page 2

Slime Slayer

04-03-2014, 10:36 PM

That mechanic is in place to ensure that everyone playing is able to enjoy the experience equally. Aside from that, if you are really good at Mario Kart you will win the majority of the time. I know I've mentioned this before, but there was a group of players that I played with in college, all of us were average to good players, but one of us, his name was "Roach" was very good. Roach won at least 50-75% of the races (4-player). We played a lot, and this result was consistent. To this day, I can't figure out exactly what he did differently than the rest of us, but he was just on another level.

Also, now that I have a kid, I appreciate the mechanic more then ever. It might be the first game that me and her will be able to enjoy together and not have to pander too her needs. You are in the same boat so maybe you can look at it that way.

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http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_04/3573.jpg

Do they hinder first in any other way?
Directly, only blue shells, they target the lead player and can be fired from last place.

CrispyChicken

04-03-2014, 10:52 PM

They only target the lead player but if you are in the blast radius, you will get hit as well.

Slime Slayer

04-03-2014, 11:06 PM

They only target the lead player but if you are in the blast radius, you will get hit as well.

Right, it's funny when playing online in MK7 and seeing the first 3 positions playing a game of reverse cat and mouse when a blue shell is released. Also worth noting, they can be dodged with a well timed mushroom boost.

@DB, please don't take this the wrong way, but it's really funny picturing you acting childish when you loose in a game for children. Big beard and everything.

Dudebro

04-04-2014, 10:30 AM

My experience is from SNES. I assume not much has changed.
You assume wrong. In the Wii version they made it so that first place is destroyed by multiple items right near the finish line almost every race. In the Snes version things were more even across the board.

It is not targeted to those who want a racing game where skill wins the race.
I just wanted it to be like the MK game I grew up with. Instead I was given a game where practice and skill is punished in favor of last place not feeling bad. Maybe that's ok with you guys but for me it's not fun. I'm not some overly serious try hard either I just don't like to be punished for enjoying the game.

That mechanic is in place to ensure that everyone playing is able to enjoy the experience equally.
Not everyone and not equal, what about the people who are able to do well and get punished for it?

It might be the first game that me and her will be able to enjoy together and not have to pander too her needs.
Except it is actually pandering to her. It's giving her a boost to make her catch up.

it's really funny picturing you acting childish when you loose in a game for children. Big beard and everything.
Picture it if you want but it's not reality. With MK I tried for a while and then just gave up and moved on. I don't like hand holding in games it sucks the fun right out of it.

Either way it's not like I'm gonna be getting this MK game I was just curious if they fixed that problem or not. If someone hears one way or another about it I'd be interested to know.

Kugyince

04-04-2014, 12:30 PM

You assume wrong. In the Wii version they made it so that first place is destroyed by multiple items right near the finish line almost every race.

That's an extreme exaggeration. I played Mario Kart Wii, got Gold in every ever Grand Prix including the Mirror, and was using the Wii Wheel on Automatic the whole time which is considered by the try-hards as the least acceptable way to play. With all that I still didn't have much trouble at all.

I just wanted it to be like the MK game I grew up with.

Hate to break this to you but the SNES Mario Kart that we grew up with is boring as hell when played without the nostalgia glasses on. I remember lapping other characters without too much difficulty, where is the fun in that?

Instead I was given a game where practice and skill is punished in favor of last place not feeling bad. Maybe that's ok with you guys but for me it's not fun. I'm not some overly serious try hard either I just don't like to be punished for enjoying the game.

I don't think it's about being "punished" or people "feeling bad". I believe the items are there to add a large amount of randomization to the game. Going from 1st to 6th, to 8th, to 4th, to 9th, and finishing in 2nd makes for a much more interesting race than hanging out in 1st for all three laps without even a real chance of your position being threatened.

Slime Slayer

04-04-2014, 02:55 PM

It's really no different than something like Taloon's, you can be playing very well, and still loose by means of something entirely beyond your control. That random factor is 100% of the reason Taloon's is fun.

Dudebro

04-04-2014, 04:07 PM

Well obviously you guys are masochists. As for me and lots of other people this is a turn off.

Slime Slayer

04-04-2014, 04:11 PM

Well obviously you guys are masochists. As for me and lots of other people this is a turn off.

Do you honestly think the game would be better without items?

Dudebro

04-04-2014, 05:19 PM

Kugyince

04-04-2014, 06:05 PM

Everything else aside, I think we can all agree that Mario Kart should let you customize what items appear much like Smash Brothers does. That way everyone can play the way they want.

Dudebro

04-04-2014, 06:48 PM

More options for the player is always better.

Slime Slayer

04-04-2014, 07:28 PM

Are you even reading what I'm typing? My beef is with the karma system the game has in place not the items. You know, the feature that causes first place to be hit with multiple colored shells and other fun stuff near the finish line so they can watch everyone else blow by them before they have time to recover.

So... you like the items.. but you don't like what the items do?

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Regardless, the game looks sweet.

Dudebro

04-04-2014, 07:53 PM

So... you like the items.. but you don't like what the items do?

Are you trying to troll me? I clearly explained what I'm annoyed by in MK. If you can't figure it out I don't know what to tell you.

Slime Slayer

04-04-2014, 10:00 PM

Are you trying to troll me? I clearly explained what I'm annoyed by in MK. If you can't figure it out I don't know what to tell you.

I figured it out a long time ago, you are not mature enough to play it. Seriously, you sound like a ten year old with an eight year old sibling.

Dudebro

04-05-2014, 01:40 PM

I figured it out a long time ago, you are not mature enough to play it. Seriously, you sound like a ten year old with an eight year old sibling.
That's what you got from this exchange? I guess I shouldn't expect much else from an proud fanboy. I dared to disagree with mighty Nintendo, blasphemy!

Slime Slayer

04-05-2014, 02:26 PM

That's what you got from this exchange? I guess I shouldn't expect much else from an proud fanboy. I dared to disagree with mighty Nintendo, blasphemy!

Sorry, you are entitled to your opinion. But keep in mind, the vast majority like the system the way it is, and if they changed it, there would outrage.

Seahawk

04-18-2014, 06:19 PM

http://www.retrouprising.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3363&stc=1&d=1397861798

NPD MARCH 2014
Gamesindustry.biz article (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-04-17-titanfall-tops-chart-but-ps4-leads-hardware-again-in-march-npd)

SOFTWARE:
http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_04/3700.jpg

HARDWARE
PS4: Best selling platform, no numbers
Xbox One: 311K, Microsoft PR (http://news.xbox.com/2014/04/xbox-one-march-npd)
3DS: 159K, source (https://twitter.com/gibbogame/status/457009449161347072)
Xbox 360: 111K, Microsoft PR (http://news.xbox.com/2014/04/xbox-one-march-npd)
Wii U: 70K, source (https://twitter.com/gibbogame/status/457009449161347072)
Wii: 28K, source (https://twitter.com/gibbogame/status/457009449161347072)
Vita: 10K, source (https://twitter.com/gibbogame/status/457009449161347072)
PSP: 5K, source (https://twitter.com/gibbogame/status/457009449161347072)

Highlights from March 2014 NPD Group results include:

Xbox One continues selling at a strong pace with 311,000 units sold in the U.S. in the month of March, surpassing Xbox 360 sales by more than 60 percent at the same point in time.
Xbox 360 continues to grow its install base with 111,000 units sold in March in the U.S., more than any other seventh generation console.
Xbox One continues to see impressive software sales with an average of 2.9 games sold per console.
With Xbox One and Xbox 360 combined, the Xbox platform sold the most games across all console platforms with 4.1 million games sold. Xbox One sold 1.4 million games in March and Xbox 360 sold 2.7 million, totaling 49 percent of the total software market share (Xbox 360 and Xbox One combined).
During the month of March, Xbox One and Xbox 360 games in the top 10 title lists were as follows:

Xbox One held four top titles in the generation eight top 10 console game title list in the U.S. including: “Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare,” “Call of Duty: Ghosts,” “Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes,” “ Titanfall.”
Xbox 360 held six top titles in the generation seven top 10 console game title list in the U.S. include: “Minecraft,” “Dark Souls II,” “The Lego Movie Video Game,” “Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare,” “Call of Duty: Ghosts,” “South Park: The Stick of Truth.”

March NPD Results: Titanfall on Xbox One is Number One Selling Game (http://news.xbox.com/2014/04/xbox-one-march-npd)

No Sony PR
No Nintendo PR

DrunkN

04-18-2014, 06:43 PM

Xbone master race

Dudebro

04-18-2014, 07:23 PM

Damn the WiiU is doing worse than the 360? That's actually kinda sad.

Seahawk

04-18-2014, 09:47 PM

I'm pretty sure that the Wii U has been outsold by the 360 every month except launch.

CrispyChicken

04-18-2014, 10:04 PM

Silly WiiU. At least the 3DS is still staying strong.

Seahawk

04-18-2014, 10:25 PM

I'd be pretty worried if I were Nintendo with the 3DS falling and Wii U being eternally catatonic.

CrispyChicken

04-19-2014, 12:39 AM

Smash will surely help out the 3DS which doesn't really have that many big games coming out aside from the new Kirby. Smash seems to be getting a lot of hype.

WiiU is pretty much doomed.

Seahawk

05-04-2014, 09:55 PM

I have no clue by what kind of crazy logic you still think you are going to win this.
Yeah yeah "Smash and Mario Kart will move units".

No, because I'm gonna be in control of SH's avatar for 3 months.

I'm not sure what you mean, the numbers have barely changed since we made the bet.

NPD Feb:
Xbox One: 258k
Wii U: ~82k

NPD Mar:
Xbox One: 311K
Wii U: 70K

Meanwhile, Media Create in Japan, week 17, 4/21-4/27
|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |
| WIU | 5.710 | 5.204 | 8.262 | 188.692 | 268.787 | 1.714.122 |I ain't even worried bro.

I'm glad, it will make my victory all the sweeter. :cute:

Wait let me see if I understand this. Steven is saying the WiiU is gonna triple its sales and pass the xbone?

No, the bet is that on Jan. 1, 2015, the Wii U has more total sales globally than the Xbox One. Maybe would should make a topic about the bet, and encourage others to make some bets to get in on the fun. Make for a hilarious start to 2015 will all the ridiculous avatars.
Continue here.

Dudebro

05-05-2014, 09:15 AM

If the WiiU turns it around I'll be sincerely stunned.

CrispyChicken

05-05-2014, 02:27 PM

I think WiiU could double their sales from Kart and Smash but I doubt they can triple total sales based on two games.

Slime Slayer

05-05-2014, 04:02 PM

Are you guys commenting on our bet? Or just in general? Because in order for me to win the bet Nintendo doesn't need to triple their sales, nor even turn things around (well they will probably need to turn things around a little bit, witch they obviously will). The bet boils down to can the Xbone catch up.

CrispyChicken

05-05-2014, 04:32 PM

Well they will need to triple their sales because they Xbone has 3x more sales than WiiU.

Slime Slayer

05-05-2014, 04:53 PM

Well they will need to triple their sales because they Xbone has 3x more sales than WiiU.

No it doesn't, these are total sales, Wii U has somewhere in the range of a 1.5 - 2 million unit lead.

CrispyChicken

05-05-2014, 05:38 PM

Ohh gotcha. I was confused with the original post. My bad. Continue on.

Seahawk

05-07-2014, 02:59 AM

Nintendo FY 2014 financial review (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir//pdf/2014/140507e.pdf)

Don't feel like analyzing deeply right now, but I'll leave this-

Cash and cash equivalents at
Start of FY - ¥469.4b
End of FY - ¥341.3b
(last row on page 12)

27% drop in all monetary assets in a single year.

Slime Slayer

05-07-2014, 05:31 PM

http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_05/3814.gif

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That image wasn't meant to be directed towards you specifically btw SH, I appreciate the numbers you post here.

And speaking of numbers, Nintendo apparently just acquired some sort of technology for 100 million usd. Not really any details other than that at this point. Must be pretty major at that price.

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Nintendo spends $100-million on acquiring something | canada.com (http://o.canada.com/technology/gaming/nintendo-spends-100-million-on-acquiring-something)

Seahawk

05-14-2014, 03:25 PM

Nintendo fans confirmed as casuals.

Three out of four US gamers prefer physical games - NPD | GamesIndustry International (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-05-14-three-out-of-four-us-gamers-prefer-physical-games-npd)

The report comes from a survey of more than 7,900 core gamers ages 9 and up conducted in March. The research firm defined "core gamer" as anyone who plays five hours or more on Microsoft or Sony consoles, PC, or Mac, and plays in certain genres (action, adventure, fighting, flight, MMOs, racing, real-time strategy, RPGs, shooters, or sports games) on those platforms.

The NPD Group put the total US core gamer audience at 34 million people, with the average player spending 22 hours a week on games. Two-thirds of them also played games on mobile devices, and 70 percent played multiplayer games at least occasionally.

Slime Slayer

05-15-2014, 01:12 AM

Took a strawpoll on /v/ for our bet SH:
Straw Poll (http://strawpoll.me/1695370/r)
People seem to agree with me. Not to say /v/ isn't a pack of inbred retards, but point stands.

Seahawk

05-15-2014, 02:22 AM

Still not seeing how that'd happen.

You got your images picked yet? I've got two candidates lined up.

Slime Slayer

05-15-2014, 02:42 AM

Oh geeze, nothing finalized yet, but I have a theme hammered out pretty good.

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In case anyone didn't notice MS went from "We cant get rid of it. The Xbox One cant function with out Kinect." to: "Raise your hands and cheer, here comes the X Bone without a Kinect."

Dudebro

05-15-2014, 01:17 PM

And the die hard fanboys are up in arms about the "sony trolls" and casuals bullying poor MS. They claim that the xbone is designed for the kinect and removing it ruins the experience. I even got called a sony troll for being happy about this and I haven't owned a Sony console since PS2.

The only good argument I've heard from fanboys is that this will hurt game production for Kinect. Forcing it on xbone buyers meant that pretty much every game could have some support for it and devs would feel confident about spending time and money on it. Now they will know that a good portion has no interest and would actually be upset if they added kinect stuff. More games will be like traditional games. I see it as a good thing for gamers but I can see why it hurts MS and any devs interested in taking the Kinect plunge.

Seahawk

05-16-2014, 10:43 PM

NPD APRIL 2014: VARYING DEGREES OF DOOMED EDITION (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-05-15-titanfall-ps4-drive-us-game-sales-up-17-percent-in-april-npd)

http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_05/3826.jpg

Top 10 software of boring and generic titles
http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_05/3827.jpg

PS4: ~199k *not official*
Xbox One: 115k
3DS: ~104k *not official*
Xbox 360: 71k
Wii U: ~49k *not official*
PS3: 35k *not official*
Wii: ~17-18k *not official*
PSVita: ~3.3k *not official*

Year over year trends:
Hardware: +76%
Software: -10%
Overall: +17%

"Life to date, sales of PS4 and Xbox One hardware have more than doubled the combined sales of PS3 and 360 hardware through their first six months of sales,” said NPD analyst Liam Callahan. "PS4 software combined with Xbox One software sales are up over 40 percent compared to sales of the PS3 and Xbox 360 through their first six months. Wii U software sales were up over last year by over 80 percent," he continued.

April NPD Results: Xbox Leads U.S. Software Game Sales

April NPD Group figures released today showed that Xbox One continues to lead in software sales with the most cumulative units sold for any eighth generation home console platform life-to-date. Combined, Xbox One and Xbox 360 held eight of the top 10 spots on the generation eight and generation seven console game lists in the U.S. And, Xbox One continues to outpace Xbox 360 sales in the same historical time period by selling over 76 percent more units in the first six months on the market.

Highlights from April 2014 NPD Group results include:
Xbox One continues to see impressive software sales, maintaining an average of three games sold per console.
With Xbox One and Xbox 360 combined, the Xbox platform sold the most games across all console platforms with 2.6 million games sold. Xbox One sold 447,000 games in April and Xbox 360 sold 2.2 million, totaling 53 percent of the total software market share (Xbox 360 and Xbox One combined).
Xbox One and Xbox 360 together held eight of the top 10 spots on the generation eight and generation seven console game list in the U.S.: “Titanfall” (Xbox One), “Kinect Sports Rivals” (Xbox One), “Titanfall” (Xbox 360), “Call of Duty: Ghosts” (Xbox 360), “NBA 2K14” (Xbox 360), “Grand Theft Auto V” (Xbox 360), “Minecraft” (Xbox 360) and “Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare” (Xbox 360).
Xbox One sold 115,000 units in the U.S. in the month of April and has outpaced box 360 sales by 76 percent in the first six months on the market.
Xbox 360 continues to grow its install base with 71,000 units sold in April in the U.S., more than any other seventh generation console.
Looking ahead to June, we’ll launch significant updates for Xbox. Earlier this week, we announced more choices and better value for Xbox fans who have been asking for options in games and entertainment experiences as well as options in hardware selection. Beginning on June 9, in all markets where Xbox One is currently sold, we will offer Xbox One starting at $399, in addition to Xbox One with Kinect. We’re also bringing a new generation of Xbox Live including Games with Gold and Deals with Gold coming to Xbox One, as well as giving anyone with an Xbox 360 or Xbox One access to apps – whether or not you have an Xbox Live Gold membership.

We’re excited to share more about the amazing lineup of games coming to Xbox during our Xbox E3 2014 Media Briefing, Xbox: Game On, which will take place Monday, June 9 beginning at 9:30 a.m. PDT. During the briefing, we’ll showcase in-depth looks at previously announced games as well as trailers for our unannounced games coming in 2014 and beyond.

Data from NPD Group, April 2014
Source: http://news.xbox.com/2014/05/xbox-one-april-npd (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/null)

Nintendo: Doomed the PR department
Sony: What's PR

Dudebro

05-17-2014, 12:33 PM

Someone wanna buy me a WiiU so I can play this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOq4IiuRMWk

KATZ

05-17-2014, 12:35 PM

hot damn, 10/10 would play

CrispyChicken

05-17-2014, 12:40 PM

That's old news! :disdain: Seriously though it looks cool. It's a spin-off of Legend of Zelda. Pretty sure it's not an actual installment in the main series.

Slime Slayer

05-17-2014, 03:33 PM

That's old news! :disdain: Seriously though it looks cool. It's a spin-off of Legend of Zelda. Pretty sure it's not an actual installment in the main series.

Definitely not part of the main series, you can tell because there are enemies and it's not a barren wasteland.

QAOP Spaceman

05-17-2014, 03:51 PM

The last console I ever had was the SNES :bulgy-eyes:

Mario Kart was, in my humble, as close to perfect as a game could get...

But looking at this...

Mario Kart 8 review â€“ the best drive ever? | Technology | theguardian.com (http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/may/16/mario-kart-8-review-the-best-drive-ever)

Maybe it's time to give Nintendo another few quid :sheep::sheep::sheep:

Seahawk

05-17-2014, 06:37 PM

https://twitter.com/Warchamp7/status/467791403959844864/photo/1

>implying this isn't fake

CrispyChicken

05-17-2014, 07:01 PM

Mario Sunshine, Double Dash, Luigi's Mansion going on VC

Smash, Pokemon, X, Hyrule Warriors, Mario Party U, Metroid 3DS, New Zelda 2015. HYPE.

HYPE.
HYPE.

Slime Slayer

05-17-2014, 07:13 PM

New Starfox too, It would be awesome if they gave it the Kid Icarus Uprising treatment.

DrunkN

05-17-2014, 11:06 PM

Argonauts Software is dead.
Starfox is dead.

Doesn't matter anyways though, does it?

CrispyChicken

05-18-2014, 12:28 AM

Eh, I was never a big Starfox fan. The only game I really like that features Starfox characters is Smash Bros. :p

StarfoxFan2009

05-18-2014, 01:40 AM

@ChrisP

http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_05/3829.jpg

Dudebro

05-18-2014, 12:16 PM

Here's a few gifs I saw related to E3 and the current console war. There's some NSFW in there!

http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_05/3830.gif

http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_05/3831.gif

http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_05/3832.gif

Seahawk

05-28-2014, 11:02 AM

With the announced Xbox One price drop taking effect in June, combined with Mario Kart 8 hype + release, I'd say that there is a small but nonzero chance that Wii U outsells Xbox One in the US in the May NPD tracking period.

Dudebro

05-28-2014, 11:08 AM

It'll be interesting to see how well MK8 does. I haven't heard anyone hyped about it except WiiU fans on Gamefaqs and a couple people on RU.

Seahawk

05-28-2014, 12:02 PM

Nintendo (both EU and NA regions) sweetened the pot by giving you a free game if you buy it. I think it will do better than I've been thinking. It's the kind of game that would sell for a long time (Mario Kart Wii sales stretched far) but the Wii U limited install base might affect this, especially with casuals not buying into the system like with the Wii.

In other news, PS4 fell below weekly Wii U sales in Japan this past week. Unprecedented...

Dudebro

05-28-2014, 12:41 PM

Bundling with another game does come off as desperate.

CrispyChicken

05-28-2014, 01:28 PM

Bundling with another game does come off as desperate.

No one is buying their games anyway so they might as well give people some extra incentive to buying MK if they also were on the fence about another WiiU game.

Slime Slayer

05-28-2014, 03:05 PM

I know I definitely want to pick up the bundle on launch, I can't be the only one.

Seahawk

05-28-2014, 03:44 PM

I don't really see it as a 'desperate' action - it's pretty much equivalent to a rebate, which happens all the time with new products of every category.

It's not a bundle game disc in the box - you have to redeem the Club Nintendo code to get it, which means creating one if necessary, tying you into the Nintendo product ecosystem. And the games offered in the US are older titles now (valued at 40$ (http://club2.nintendo.com/mario-kart8-promo/)) and your product will be digital only. It's a limited time offer as well, ending July 31.

To me this just seems like a standard fare marketing deal.

Dudebro

05-28-2014, 04:59 PM

Well I see some desperation in the context of the WiiU being an overall disappointment and Nintendo banking on these few big games to redeem it.

Seahawk

05-28-2014, 05:35 PM

I think Nintendo has realized that the machine is not going to be a massively successful venture at this point, given how they've put much much lower (and realistic) forecast numbers for sales on the current fiscal year, 3.6 million units worldwide. Compare this to the insane forecast of the last year, it was something like 9 million or so.

Other than that, they are now making a profit on each Wii U sold at MSRP. Granted, not all of those units will be sold at full price, given the fire sales Nintendo has had to make with specific retailers in the past year, especially in Europe, where the console is in more dire straits than it is elsewhere.

In the end the data is all up to personal interpretation, so your opinion is fair.

Nintendo financial statement FY 13-14 (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir//pdf/2014/140507e.pdf)
Nintendo financial results briefing for end of FY 13-14 (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/140508/03.html)

Kugyince

05-28-2014, 05:55 PM

http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_05/3911.jpg

Seahawk

05-28-2014, 06:03 PM

:/

As much as I could blame lazy uninformed article writers, Nintendo has a lot to answer for the console name combined with the pre-launch E3 reveals.

Slime Slayer

05-28-2014, 09:14 PM

Kart 8 has already jumped to 5th place on Amazon JP best sellers of 2014:

1. Youkai Watch (700k+)
2. Kirby Triple Deluxe (588k+)
3. Dark Souls II (340k+)
4. Dragon Quest 2 (760k+)
5. Mario Kart 8 (?k)
6. Monster Hunter 4 (120k+)
7. Metal Gear Solid (PS3) (230k)
8. Metal Gear Solid (PS4) (140k+)

www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsellers/2014/videogames

Seahawk

06-02-2014, 12:47 PM

2nd June 2014 – On 30th May, Mario Kart 8 for Wii U launched simultaneously around the world to global acclaim, garnering some of the strongest review scores in the history of the series. Following this, Nintendo has today reported that the game sold more than 1.2 million* total units across Japan, Europe and The Americas from Thursday, 29th May to Sunday, 1st June.**

"Such positive early feedback for Mario Kart 8 reinforces the great gameplay experiences that Wii U currently offers," said Nintendo of Europe president Satoru Shibata. "With Nintendo set to showcase its future releases at E3 next week, this is a great milestone going into the summer season."

Prior to Mario Kart 8, the seven titles that have launched previously in the series have combined to sell more than 100 million total units, an average of more than 14 million units per title. This includes two of the best-selling video games of all time: Mario Kart Wii for Wii and Mario Kart DS for the Nintendo DS family of systems.

http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_06/3938.png

*Based on Nintendo’s internal sales figures.

**Mario Kart 8 launched on Thursday, 29th May in Japan and Friday, 30th May across Europe and The Americas.

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Kugyince

06-06-2014, 12:16 PM

Still dat Kart Wii...

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http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_06/3951.jpg

CrispyChicken

06-06-2014, 01:13 PM

Still dat Kart Wii...

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http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_06/3951.jpg

Is this real life?

Seahawk

06-06-2014, 02:48 PM

Why did Nintendo print the poster upside down? No wonder they're missing out on sales. /s

E3 in a few days...

Dudebro

06-06-2014, 06:28 PM

That cool poster and the Luigi death stare actually made me wanna play MK, good work Nintendo.

Btw I hear Nintendo closed down one of it's EU headquarters, uh oh!

Slime Slayer

06-08-2014, 11:31 AM

Should there be a separate E3 thread? Or just keep it all here?

Seahawk

06-08-2014, 12:31 PM

Just post it all here, doesn't seem like there's enough interest to warrant another thread. It's all still console war anyways since it'll eventually end as who "won" E3.

Kugyince

06-09-2014, 12:33 PM

I won E3.

All three of them.

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Nintendo strikes the day before E3, releasing a bunch of eshop trailers.

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Van Helsing sniper Zx100 Nintendo 3DS - Trailer - EnjoyUp - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s9so0EzGpQ)

Wii U - PAC-MAN and the Ghostly Adventures 2 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xISydOjKM54)

Nintendo eShop - Wooden Sen'SeY for Wii U E3 Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGTylr9AGzI)

Nintendo eShop - Gunman Clive 2 for Nintendo 3DS E3 Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UhbgNCwW3Q)

Nintendo eShop -- Tengami for Wii U - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xuSyxGQ8DY)

Nintendo eShop -- Teslagrad for Wii U Mood Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFFSGDtlM9o)

Wii U - Watch_Dogs CGI Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6k0yXUA6fc)

Nintendo eShop - Whoa Dave! for Nintendo 3DS - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsea0hUn-b8)

Nintendo eShop - 6180 the moon Teaser Trailer for Wii U - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2qxBwMeEtg)

Nintendo eShop - Blast 'Em Bunnies for Nintendo 3DS - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh0EMxb4ltA)

Nintendo eShop - Armillo E3 Trailer for Wii U - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZhI3q9THtw)

Nintendo eShop - Chromophore: The Two Brothers Director's Cut E3 Trailer for Wii U - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoTnIn9FJQE)

Nintendo eShop - Citizens of Earth Teaser Trailer for Wii U and Nintendo 3DS - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJS7DKIGMOc)

Nintendo eShop - Chariot for Wii U Announce Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6xrwv0PEe8)

Nintendo eShop - Cubemen 2 for Wii U E3 Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptkymqqbtwY)

Wii U - ONE PIECE Unlimited World Red Nintendo eShop Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv-GUDHeUh8)

Seahawk

06-09-2014, 01:17 PM

Hopefully that means they don't waste time on them tomorrow.

Dudebro

06-09-2014, 01:41 PM

A couple of those looked good but overall that seems a bit underwhelming.

I accidentally watched some of E3 today, it came on and I didn't change it right away because I was cleaning. I tuned in to see the opening for MS and I got to about Sunset Overdrive before I lost interest. Maybe I'm just getting old but I didn't see anything exciting. That game where you can play as the boss monster looked cool though. The best part for me was the polite clapping after the COD trailer, guess it's not hot anymore.

Slime Slayer

06-09-2014, 03:56 PM

I just tuned in, and what do you know? A new military themed FPS!!!! The freaking tards are up on the roof of the building playing multiplier for extra hardcoreness.

Kugyince

06-09-2014, 05:59 PM

Gunman Clive 2 is a must buy for me.

Of the others, Chromoform and Tengami look interesting.

More trailers released:

Nintendo 3DS - Persona Q E3 Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgNnOYpED3g)

Nintendo eShop - Pier Solar and the Great Architects for Wii U - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGlZGaJgbgY)

Nintendo eShop - Nihilumbra for Wii U Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o7eyyAFtn0)

Nintendo eShop -- STARWHAL: Just the Tip for Wii U - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L18NkJbhKWM)

Nintendo 3DS - Yu-Gi-Oh! ZEXAL World Duel Carnival Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DA4TlbJHR8)

Nintendo eShop - Thorium Wars: Attack of the Skyfighter for Nintendo 3DS E3 Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoZnjrj3yCw)

Nintendo eShop -- A.N.N.E Teaser Trailer for Wii U - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ3J1HZI8-c)

Nintendo eShop - Moon Chronicles [ep. 2] for Nintendo 3DS Announce trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y493Yl-8DFY)

Nero trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wIWMWweAxw)

CrispyChicken

06-09-2014, 07:38 PM

Persona Q looks interesting. Nero kinda looks like Magicka. Any clues on what kind of game it is going to be?

Sony E3 presentation starts in about 20 minutes.

Seahawk

06-09-2014, 08:09 PM

First game is about shooting things. We really love shooting things huh.

CrispyChicken

06-09-2014, 08:29 PM

Little. Big. Planet. 3.

Seahawk

06-09-2014, 09:32 PM

Sony blowing it right here at the end. Wow.

CrispyChicken

06-09-2014, 09:59 PM

Mortal Kombat X :sleepy:

Uncharted 4 meh.

No Man's Sky looked cool.

LBP3 best thing during the presentation. Far Cry 4 looked sweet too. Bloodborne looked cool, but zombies so overdone at this point.

And Dead Island 2 :face:

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Ubisoft won day 1.

Dudebro

06-09-2014, 10:08 PM

Sony blowing it right here at the end. Wow.
You should elaborate for those of us not watching it. Blowing it could be good or bad ;)

Seahawk

06-09-2014, 10:18 PM

Can Tenser's two posts be edited to remove the video embeds and replace them with hyperlinks? There are way too many and it's really lagging both the forum page and the replying page.

Sony blew it. Big time.
They had a rocky start. DLC gets time at e3, seriously? But then they started actually showing off a multitude of different games. If they kept that up they would have had a good show, especially with No Man's Sky, which was probably the most interesting thing they showed (it needs to come out already or have more substantial information though, since it was shown last year).

Then they had a guy walk on stage and start discussing meaningless banter and statistics for a LONG time, before unbelievably moving on to network services and TV AND MOVIE TIE INS. Just a year after blasting away Microsoft's TV conference last year, Sony comes right back and does the same for 30 minutes straight. TV TV TV MOVIES TV TV ORIGINAL PROGRAMMING TV. It was suffering to watch. The last trailers don't redeem anything, GTAV is already out, MGS5 trailer was leaked earlier, Batman was cool I guess, but all three of those games are coming for the Xbox One as well.

Furthermore, no Final Fantasy XV, after showing it last year? No Kingdom Hearts 3, after showing it last year? No Last Guardian, after the hoopla with a retracted IGN article? Hell, no Japanese games of any sort, really? RIP Japan gaming.

Microsoft > Sony
You're up tomorrow Nintendo.

Kugyince

06-09-2014, 10:24 PM

Seahawk

06-09-2014, 10:33 PM

That solved the problem completely, thanks.

CrispyChicken

06-09-2014, 10:36 PM

Square announced before E3 that there will be no news on FF or KH3 :(

Wolf

06-09-2014, 11:12 PM

fixed ten mess

Seahawk

06-10-2014, 01:17 AM

HULK SMASH (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u70K7tVGazc)

Slime Slayer

06-10-2014, 01:33 AM

From what I have seen so far, this has been the worst E3 yet. Each year I hope for something different, and each year I get the same crap. Hold me R.U.

Seahawk

06-10-2014, 02:37 AM

The secret is that E3 sucks every year if you're not invested into realistic graphics, shooting things, or visceral cutscenes.

Slime Slayer

06-10-2014, 03:26 AM

I really wish there was better options than IGN, Gametrailers... ect... all they cover is the huge games. God, avoid Twitches stream... boooring... that freaking guy with the haircut.

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I gotta hand it to Mortal Kombat X, they really got creative on the gore. Funny, remember Thrill Kill on PSX? It was banned for it's psychotic violence, and it looks like a kitten compared to a tiger in MKX.

And Star Wars Destiny looked kinda cool..

DrunkN

06-10-2014, 03:46 AM

Really? I'm kinda surprised you'd be into Destiny

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Cuphead trailer - YouTube

This game wins E3

Slime Slayer

06-10-2014, 04:14 AM

Yeah, if that game can fill the shoes, then it will win E3.

And yeah, Destiny looked like a decent enough deviation from your standard FPS that it caught my attention. Really good designs on the aliens. It's way cooler than Halo anyway, Bungie created the Halo killer.

Seahawk

06-10-2014, 08:31 AM

Nintendo's thing is at 9AM Pacific today. I live in Central US time which is two hours ahead.
I managed to reverse the timezone conversion and genuinely thought it was at 7AM, and was awake at this time and was eagerly awaiting it. It took me an entire hour of thinking it was delayed before I realized my error.
http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_06/3953.jpg
E3 madness, I need help

Kugyince

06-10-2014, 10:37 AM

Yes, please let your hype build. Nintendo would never let you down.

Meanwhile I',m here at work, waiting for a live blog to roll around. Link to watch the presentation when I get home will be appreciated.

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E3 2014: Shigeru Miyamoto Confirms Star Fox for Wii U - Wii U News @ Nintendo Life (http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/06/e3_2014_shigeru_miyamoto_confirms_star_fox_for_wii _u)

Seahawk

06-10-2014, 11:48 AM

Nintendo: "Ha ha, Mother 3 fans in America!"

BUTTHURT

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ITS HAPPENING

THE YOSHI GAME OF MY DREAMS.

ITS ACTUALLY GONNA BE GOOD

BASED TEZUKA.

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BAYONETTA 1 & 2 COMBO RELEASE.

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Meh. Personal bias aside, they talked way too much on philosophy. As usual I guess.

CrispyChicken

06-10-2014, 02:21 PM

Presented a lot of games I would like to get. Hyrule Warriors hyped me hard.

StarfoxFan2009

06-10-2014, 03:20 PM

well, I think its safe to say Sony and MS got blown out by Nintendo this year. Wanna get a Wii-U now that Starfox is in development, as well as Hyrule Warriors, Mario Maker, and Splatoon lol

CrispyChicken

06-10-2014, 03:59 PM

They should be releasing footage on Star Fox soon. Also Metroid 3DS likely tomorrow.

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Games at E3 2014 - E3 - Electronics Entertainment Expo Wiki Guide - IGN (http://www.ign.com/wikis/e3/Games_at_E3_2014)

Ta-da.

Kugyince

06-10-2014, 04:36 PM

Some good looking stuff this E3. Hoping for one or two more interesting reveals in the next two days though.

Alphadia Genesis (maybe)
Corpse Party (probably)
Devil's Third (maybe)
Harvest Moon: The Lost Valley (probably)
Legend of Zelda Wuu (probably)
Pokemon Alpha Sapphire (certainty)
Story of Seasons (certainty)
Xenoblade Chronicles X (probably)
Yoshi's Wooly World (maybe)

Seahawk

06-10-2014, 05:51 PM

The Nintendo Treehouse Live stream is pretty flipping awesome.
This is such a better way of showing off games other than baked demos and CG trailers. They're even making Mario Maker seem exciting, and a Mario level editor shouldn't be exciting at all.

I can't look away D:.
Smash tourney coming up.

CrispyChicken

06-10-2014, 08:24 PM

Smash tourney so good :D :D

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Nintendo hands down won. Epic presentations all day long after the Direct. More Smash stuff to revealed at 10 too.

Kugyince

06-10-2014, 09:17 PM

Any guesses on what unrevealed 3DS game they plan on spending 90 minutes on tomorrow?

CrispyChicken

06-10-2014, 09:31 PM

Metroid was teased by Reggie. Not sure if you count that as unannounced.

Slime Slayer

06-10-2014, 10:12 PM

Sony and MS BTFO.

Really excited for the new Zelda, sounds like it corrects all my issues with the 3d installments. If Mario editor allows sharing, ranking/difficulty settings, its must have. Pretty much everyrthing was must have... A WiiU will be purchased.

And that epic battle between Reggie an Iwata...

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And Captain Toad.

Kugyince

06-10-2014, 10:13 PM

A Metroid 3DS game would top off E3 nicely.

Slime Slayer

06-11-2014, 02:23 AM

A Metroid 3DS game would top off E3 nicely.

Hoping for Metroidvania.

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http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_06/3962.jpg

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Wii U:
6180 the moon - Q3 2014
Affordable Space Adventures - Fall 2014
A.N.N.E - TBD
Armillo - Summer 2014
Art Academy (Working Title) - 2014
Bayonetta 1 & 2 - October 2014
Blast 'Em Bunnies - TBD
Captain Toad Treasure Tracker - Holiday 2014
Chariot - Fall 2014
Chromophore: The Two Brothers Directors Cut - Winter 2014/Early 2015
Citizens of Earth - Fall 2014
Cubemen 2 - TBD
Devil's Third - TBD
Disney Infinity: Marvel Super Heroes - Fall 2014
Guacamelee! Super Turbo Championship Edition - Summer 2014
Hyrule Warriors - September 26, 2014
Just Dance 2015 - October 2014
Kirby and the Rainbow Curse - 2015
The Legend of Zelda Wii U - 2015
Mario Maker - First Half 2015
Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 2015
Mario Party 10 - 2015
Nihilumbra - Summer 2014
One Piece: Unlimited World Red - July 2014
Pacman and the Ghostly Adventures 2 - October 2014
Pier Solar - Q3 2014
Shantae and the Pirate's Curse - Summer 2014
Splatoon - First Half 2015
Shovel Knight - June 26, 2014
Skylanders: Trap Team - October 5, 2014
Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric - November 2014
Star Fox - 2015
Starwhal: Just the Tip - Q3 2014
Super Smash Bros: Wii U - Winter 2014
Swords & Soldiers II - Q4 2014-Q1 2015
Tengami - Summer 2014
Teslagrad - 2014
Watch Dogs - TBD (2014)
Wooden Sen'sey - Summer 2014
Yoshi's Woolly World - First Half 2015
Xenoblade Chronicles X - 2015
3DS:
Citizens of Earth - Fall 2014
Fantasy Life - October 2014
Gunman Clive 2 - Fall 2014
Lego Batman 3: Beyond Gotham - Fall 2014
Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate: Early 2015
One Piece: Unlimited World Red - July 2014
Pacman and the Ghostly Adventures 2 - October 2014
Professor Layton vs. Phoenix Wright - August 29, 2014
Persona Q: Shadows of the Labyrinth - Fall 2014
Phoenix Wright®: Ace Attorney Trilogy - Winter 2014
Pokémon Alpha Sapphire - November 21, 2014
Pokémon Art Academy - October 2014
Pokémon Omega Ruby - November 21, 2014
Shovel Knight - June 26, 2014
Siesta Fiesta - Summer 2014
Sonic Boom: Shattered Crystal - November 2014
Super Smash Bros: 3DS - October 3, 2014
Tappingo 2 - Summer 2014
Theatrhythm: Final Fantasy Curtain Call - 2014
Skylanders: Trap Team - October 5, 2014
Woah Dave! - Summer 2014
Yu-Gi-Oh! ZEXAL World Duel Carnival - September 2014

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Access to the presskit? Whatever..

user: Nintendo
pass: E32014

http://press.nintendo.com/E32014/

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Seahawk

06-11-2014, 03:39 PM

#Nintendo said MK8 attach rate in US was 18% versus 7% for MK7. MK8 boosted WiiU sales 4.1x week over week v. MK7 2.4x
#Nintendo in analyst meeting said in usa sold 450k of MK8 in 3 days versus 250k on MK7.

.

Slime Slayer

06-11-2014, 04:11 PM

Anyoneknow where I can watch the 3DS reveal live? Also anyone know any good streams period? The only ones I can find are nothing but brown and bloom.

Seahawk

06-11-2014, 04:21 PM

Nintendo Treehouse stream (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX1lyVtQYCM)

Everything else is dumb, just watch this for the rest of e3.

Slime Slayer

06-11-2014, 04:52 PM

Nintendo Treehouse stream (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX1lyVtQYCM)

Everything else is dumb, just watch this for the rest of e3.

Yeah thanks, I wish I knew about 2 days ago. But you are right, I had been bouncing back and fourth between IGN and Twitch, what a joke.

Kugyince

06-11-2014, 05:32 PM

We can all watch the Treehouse together here:

CyTube (http://cytu.be/r/RetroUprising)

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Comes with our own private chat room. ;)

CrispyChicken

06-11-2014, 07:37 PM

Treehouse still going on. They just finished talking Splatoon and now they are on Monster Hunter 4. Been watching it on and off all day. Really awesome stuff. Much more involved than the normal presentations. Nintendo should do this every year.

Slime Slayer

06-12-2014, 01:52 AM

3 minutes: http://www.twitch.tv/nintendo

Jump into chat or Tens link above.

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Sorry, it's like 55 minutes.

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Man... I'm Starting to think that the major devs are scared to challenge Nintendo's seal of quality.

Anyway, this E3 Nntendo said to 3rd party devs: FU we will do it ourselves.

Kugyince

06-12-2014, 01:16 PM

Anyway, this E3 Nntendo said to 3rd party devs: FU we will do it ourselves.

I hope not. Nintendo makes about 1 - 2 games a year that interests me. That's not enough to keep me occupied.

If it wasn't for Zelda, Metroid, and Kirby I would be a Sony guy.

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http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_06/3965.jpg

CrispyChicken

06-12-2014, 06:16 PM

They just showed Devil's Third. I'm kinda hyped.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj9V5-7Vqno

Well I'm interested.

Seahawk

06-12-2014, 08:20 PM

Treehouse stream is over.
I can finally go play video games again.

CrispyChicken

06-12-2014, 08:55 PM

Treehouse stream is over.
I can finally go play video games again.

LOL I know right? I legit haven't done anything these past few days. I've just been sleeping and watching Nintendo E3.

Kugyince

06-13-2014, 10:17 AM

Yoshi's Woolly World: I was pretty psyched about this game when they showed it last year. I'm glad there's a distinct lack of Baby Mario. I'm also very surprised they trotted out TenTen, Nintendo's best secret weapon. When you compare Yoshi's Woolly World to Miyamoto's Project Giant Robot and Project Guard you can really see the contrast in actual talent. Miyamoto's always been more of an ideas man while Tezuka's always been the one who actually turned those ideas into games.

Captain Toad: Never been a fan of Toad. Apparently this was a side game in New Super Mario Bros U? It really came off as an E-shop title and not really something that would justify a retail release.

Kirby's Rainbow Curse: Love Kirby. Love the clay art style. Just unsure of the game mechanic behind it. I don't think I'm up for more Kirby's Canvas Curse/Ivy the Kiwi. Looks great though.

Zelda Wuu: Aonuma said all the right things in the small clip. Big, open world. Free to explore. Art style looks absolutely amazing. If it pans out this is certainly a must-buy. I just doubt it wont be delayed to 2016.

Hyrule Warriors: I've never been a fan of the Dynasty Warriors games which is odd because I like mindless beat-em-ups. Maybe it was the RotTK setting. I might pick this up if Midna is playable through most if not all of the campaign. She looks amazing in HD.

Splatoons: This game could be actually amazing if you're playing with/against friends. If a few other RU members pick this up I'd be persuaded into grabbing it as well. I don't think I'd enjoy it half as much when playing against random people. Great concept and always nice to have another new IP. Hope it works out for them.

STEAM: The more I see of this game the less I want it. While the concept is interesting (SRPG x TPS) there's just too much TPS for my taste.

I'll post my thoughts on the other games when I go to lunch.

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More on Splatoons: It's also nice to see Ninty trotting out the younger developers. They should've started this years ago.

Xenoblade & Bayonetta: Both look stunning. Graphical showpieces for the hardware. I'm very interested in Xenoblade. Packaging the first Bayonetta with Bayonetta 2 is a smart move on their part.

Amiibo: Not sure how gimmicky these things will be. Somewhere between the level of stereoscopic 3D (potential gimmick for all future games) and the Balance Board (dropped after a few select gimmick games). The Kirby one looks adorable but the full suit Samus looks too slender. Maybe Zero Suit Samus will be more to my liking. ;) I'll probably buy 1-3 just as swag.

http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_06/3970.jpg

CrispyChicken

06-13-2014, 01:16 PM

I'll be buying Splatoon. Liked what I saw at E3 and I'm kind of glad they showed a lot of it.

Kugyince

06-13-2014, 10:29 PM

Yoshi's Woolly World will be more challenging than Kirby's Epic Yarn, Nintendo designer Takashi Tezuka explained to us in an interview.

The difficulty level in Kirby's Epic Yarn was set pretty low for younger players, according to Tezuka. "With Yoshi's Woolly World, we don't intend it to be for younger players...we were going to make it a Yoshi game," he stated. "The courses beyond what we have on the show floor will get more challenging. And if you try to get all the collectibles, you'll find it pretty challenging. It'll push back."

The reason the game seems to be more challenging this time around is because there is a lack of Baby Mario, which lets you die from enemies. You can also die by falling in pits. These added elements make it "easy to raise the difficulty level as needed," said Tezuka. "It's kind of like Mario."

Woolly World Will Be More Challenging Than Epic Yarn - News - Nintendo World Report (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/37800/woolly-world-will-be-more-challenging-than-epic-yarn)

Slime Slayer

06-14-2014, 03:32 AM

I remember the one I played the most, on the Advance I think, was brutal at some points.

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gamrConnect Forums - Interesting facts about E3 (http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=185212)

CrispyChicken

06-14-2014, 02:08 PM

gamrConnect Forums - Interesting facts about E3 (http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=185212)

That Nintendo 89% Gameplay :in-love:

DrunkN

06-14-2014, 02:16 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzKzrQDoOX4

I wish games like this got more attention.

Seahawk

06-14-2014, 04:35 PM

Motion controls and Kinect are generally poison at this point.
That game looks cook but it takes way too much effort to actually play as well.

Dudebro

06-14-2014, 05:42 PM

That looks cool but I bet the novelty wears off very quick.

Slime Slayer

06-15-2014, 02:51 PM

]More on Splatoons: It's also nice to see Ninty trotting out the younger developers. They should've started this years ago.

Yeah, those young guns are really pumpin out fresh and original content:
color_wars.avi - YouTube

Wolf

06-15-2014, 03:17 PM

lol same concept

Kugyince

06-15-2014, 05:06 PM

Yeah, those young guns are really pumpin out fresh and original content:
color_wars.avi - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96WZJusSqR0#t=38)

Unlike everything else Nintendo does which is fresh and original?

Seahawk

06-15-2014, 05:24 PM

Yeah, those young guns are really pumpin out fresh and original content
You really don't play anything but Nintendo first party, do you.

Dudebro

06-15-2014, 05:34 PM

I actually think that color wars game is cool, for kids or family audiences.

CrispyChicken

06-15-2014, 06:17 PM

Oh wow the concept is the same :sarcastic:

Just like every FPS on the Xbone and PS4 are EXACTLY the same thing :face:

Slime Slayer

06-15-2014, 06:20 PM

Holy Nintendrones in full force lol.

Seahawk

06-15-2014, 07:09 PM

I guess nobody here noticed that video was posted two years ago.

CrispyChicken

06-15-2014, 07:54 PM

Holy Nintendrones in full force lol.

Not really. Just pointing out the fact that Microsoft and Sony do it 10x as much.

CatalystiCam

06-15-2014, 10:17 PM

Captain Toad: Never been a fan of Toad. Apparently this was a side game in New Super Mario Bros U? It really came off as an E-shop title and not really something that would justify a retail release.

Super Mario 3d World, yes. Could make a cool little puzzle game. Diversifying. They can do solo Luigi & Yoshi Games, why not this? May not like it personally, who knows, but I'm totally cool with it.

Just speaking generally, I haven't weighed on this since I don't have much to say, being that all I've played is WiiU (Mostly). As far as Ps4 goes, I have a high end computer, so what can Ps4 do for me. Xbox one, same thing, but higher price tag for something worse than the ps4(Keeping in mind I do keep tabs on the consoles, play them now and then, and know the specs).

Nintendo's still the only one innovating, in my opinion, from what I'm seeing at least. that said, the Vita is honestly looking pretty good in the innovation aspect as well.

From what I've played. Mario 3d World, Tropical Freeze and Mario Kart 8 are all AAA titles.

Before I get torn to bits here. I'm not knocking the affordability for a next gen console that lies within the ps4. Good on them. I'm not knocking the "Affordability" of the Xbox one either *Cough* although it's worse for more money *Cough*. That's what they are. Capable next gen consoles for less money than a pc, and less power of a high end pc.

I'm grouping the WiiU on a different plain than all the other 3, and handhelds. It does things the Nintendo way for lack of a better term. Arguably still innovating and having innovative titles for it. I'm not just talking about the tablet either. The top-end titles at least are different enough, and good enough to say "hey WiiU is different from these other consoles". Not saying there isn't AAA Games or indie titles similar to DKC5 or Mario on other platforms, because there is... Kind of. There's every style of game out there from every platform (Just mostly Shooters). Nintendo's catering more to the polished Adventure, and platformer games I prefer. The style of games that there's less of on other consoles. Where as Everything else is still all about the Hyper Realism, and shooters... shooters... shooters. Realistic shooters with lots of blacks & greys and browns and white colour palettes making up the generic, runic, post apocalyptic look.

This sets them apart for me. Here's the basic summary for me.

Portability:

Vita < 3DS

Shooters/Realism & Indie:

Xbox One <<< PS4 < PC

Platformers & Eveything else generally untouched in the gaming world:

WiiU

All this said, personally. None of the listed consoles have done enough to warrant me wanting one. Probably because I have a high end PC, the Ps4 is not something I'm considering, and don't make me laugh at the prospect of actually paying money for an Xbox one (maybe I'll get the controller for PC gaming if it becomes compatible).

WiiU is close to me wanting one, but I cannot justify it just yet with what I already currently have to play.

Handhelds, I already have a 3ds that is pretty damn good. Not getting a Vita, although I am very willing to acknowledge it's got a lot of cool titles out, as well as upcoming for it. It's just really flying under the radar still.

CrispyChicken

06-15-2014, 10:43 PM

3DS has destroyed the Vita so far, BUT the Vita has been coming on nicely of late and while it probably won't be much competition compared to the 3DS, it'll be a nice boost for Sony to add to their already booming PS4 sales.

PS4 and Xbone have almost no interesting titles to me. What I do like from them, I get for the PC with better graphics.

WiiU titles interest me and Nintendo in general fits more of my play style. This is mostly because of the fact that I rarely play/enjoy shooters.

3DS is still my favorite system of this generation.

DrunkN

06-15-2014, 10:55 PM

Is it too late to talk about Ouya hype?

Seahawk

06-15-2014, 11:00 PM

Here's a pic of 2 units in my local Gamestop, dated Dec. 1 2013.

http://www.retrouprising.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3438&stc=1&d=1402891210

Slime Slayer

06-15-2014, 11:16 PM

And here's one sitting in a thrift store:
http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_06/3984.jpg
Before anyone gets all Ouya defense force on me, I'ts just a joke and I know does not necessarily reflect anything.

CrispyChicken

06-16-2014, 12:22 AM

I've never even heard of that thing before. Are there even games for it?

DrunkN

06-16-2014, 12:38 AM

I've never even heard of that thing before. Are there even games for it?

Not really any exclusives. Most of the games for Ouya can be found on PC or mobile.

Seahawk

06-17-2014, 11:38 PM

NPD MAY 2014 - VAPORWARE EDITION (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-06-16-mario-kart-8-watch-dogs-spark-big-us-game-sales-in-may-npd)

THIS MONTH'S SPECIAL FEATURE:
http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_06/4004.jpg
http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_06/4005.jpg

Mario Kart 8 is notable for charting with only two days in the tracking period (release May 30).

Hardware:
PS4: #1 source (https://twitter.com/iansherr/status/478666783826538497)
3DS: #2 source (https://twitter.com/iansherr/status/478667585723301888)
Wii U: 60k source (https://twitter.com/iansherr/status/478667480714706944), +85% from May 2013 (32k)
Everything else ??????????

No PR by anybody!

***UNOFFICIAL*** numbers cobbled together from leaks
PS4 ~ 197k
3DS ~ 97k (lol outsold XB1)
XB1 ~ 77k (affected by price drop announcement)
Wii U ~ 61k (still mega dead)
360 ~ 57k
PSV ~ 56k (new model in stock)
PS3 ~ 36k
Wii ~ 11k (out of production)

CrispyChicken

06-18-2014, 12:19 AM

Would like to see stats for June WiiU sales. Want to see how much of an effect MK8 had.

Seahawk

06-18-2014, 01:17 AM

It's too bad MK8 only got two days in the tracking period. Although, I don't think it could have beaten watch doges anyways, that game came out for a bazillion platforms. Maybe it can take June NPD?

I'm surprised Kirby cracked the chart. And Minecraft still going....kids were buying copies of the PS3 version (which just got released) at the Smash event. Microsoft getting it exclusive for a few years was a big coup for them.

I wonder how many copies of the next gen versions Mojang can sell.

CatalystiCam

06-19-2014, 02:22 AM

Slime Slayer

07-18-2014, 01:28 AM

You got those NDP numbers SH?

---------- Post added at 06:28 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:01 AM ----------

Were waiting....
EDIT: Seriously SH on our bet, you must be getting scared.

Seahawk

07-18-2014, 02:57 AM

I got 'em, I usually just wait till leaks drop and all data is figured out. And boy was it worth it cuz I got the scoop this month.

NPD JUNE 2014 - BIG DATA EDITION
http://www.retrouprising.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3468&stc=1&d=1405669734

Press release by Gamesbeat (http://venturebeat.com/2014/07/17/june-2014-npd-ps4-and-xbox-one-have-another-strong-month-as-watch-dogs-tops-charts/)

but skip reading that and look at this instead. Forget your estimates and look at the actual private NPD data released by Gamecrate (http://www.gamecrate.com/playstation-4-dominates-june-sales-npd-reports/).

http://www.retrouprising.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3469&stc=1&d=1405670077
http://www.retrouprising.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3470&stc=1&d=1405670097
http://www.retrouprising.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3471&stc=1&d=1405670097

Remember! NPD only covers physical retail sales! And an SKU = one game on one platform, as opposed to total sales on multiple platforms (which is what is usually reported).

EDIT: Seriously SH on our bet, you must be getting scared.
Keep on dreamin'.

Slime Slayer

07-18-2014, 03:02 AM

Is there any information relative to our bet or no?

Seahawk

07-18-2014, 03:07 AM

Is there any information relative to our bet or no?

:V
The data is right there, man....
You can clearly see XB1 still outselling Wii U.

Slime Slayer

07-18-2014, 03:26 AM

Oh, yeah lol!

Dudebro

07-18-2014, 08:00 AM

I wonder if MS laying off 18k employees means these numbers are gonna change in a bad way for them soon.

Also I heard that Minecraft on consoles outsold it's PC counterpart, sad.

Seahawk

07-18-2014, 01:16 PM

The layoffs at Microsoft are probably more related to letting go of the majority of Nokia staff after the buyout of that company.

Dudebro

07-18-2014, 03:05 PM

Around 13k of that is from the Nokia thing but -
The remaining 5,500 jobs cut across multiple functions, including marketing and engineering. Microsoft declined to specify which areas were hardest hit, though an internal email shows that the company is closing Xbox Entertainment Studios, which was just starting to produce original TV shows.
They can spin it as making the company more agile or w.e but it seems obvious that it's a bad sign for their console division after the TV TV TV focus recently.

Seahawk

07-18-2014, 05:36 PM

They can spin it as making the company more agile or w.e but it seems obvious that it's a bad sign for their console division after the TV TV TV focus recently.

Of course, corporate spin like that will happen with any company.

The Nokia cuts were obvious, it's been clear for some time that the Nokia brand was on the way out. Nokia got destroyed after smartphones came about and everyone stopped buying their feature phones, which is a shame, as Nokia had a long history of phone innovation before smartphones flipped the tables on that market. Microsoft kept them alive for a while to bolster their Windows Phone line but acquisition was always the ultimate goal, probably for their patent portfolio. RIP Nokia and good phone battery life.

As for Xbox Entertainment Studios, it was reportedly only 200 employees total (http://recode.net/2014/07/17/microsoft-to-shut-down-xbox-entertainment-studios/), which is not very many considering this is 18k layoffs. Probably they see they cannot compete with media titans like HBO without sinking a lot more money than they want to. I don't think TV media production fits in with their company at all, they are a software company first and foremost.

Personally I think a lot of this restructuring is the fallout from the recent CEO change at Microsoft. After Bill Gates left, Steve Ballmer seemed to really want to expand the company's scope into lots of different areas, and of course they had to react after Apple kicked off the smart device age with the iPhone and iPad. This is why you have the Windows Phone, the Surface, and the big changes done to the Windows OS in 8. On Xbox you had the change from just games to the oft cited "battle for the living room", where you had non gaming media added to Xbox Live, Kinect, TV etc. With Ballmer now gone many of these programs are being rolled back since Satya Nadella kicked off this refocus effort. TV is cancelled and all the tablet/mobile oriented changes in Windows 8 are being redacted. Rumors say that the Xbox brand will be spun off from the core company. Changes ahead...

</off topic>

Anyways this restructure probably has little to do with Xbox, it is failing on its own merit just because the Playstation 4 is the hot product. People hear it has the better games with the better performance. People hear it has 1080p while the XB1 versions are less. People hear it has 60fps while the XB1 versions are less. Before the XB1 price cut you got all of that for less price as well. This is in reverse to the 360/PS3 gen, when games ran better, looked better on 360, had better online network with Live and all your (not you specifically, just in general) friends were on it.

Now, let's look at this months combined platform software sales:

1. Watch Dogs (PS4, 360, Xbox One, PS3, PC)
2. Mario Kart 8 (Wii U)
3. Minecraft (360, PS3)
4. UFC (PS4, Xbox One)
5. FIFA 14 (PS4, 360, Xbox One, PS3, Vita)
6. NBA 2K14 (360, PS3, PS4, Xbox One, PC)
7. Wolfenstein: The New Order (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)
8. Call of Duty: Ghosts (360, PS4, PS3, Xbox One, Wii U, PC)
9. Tomodachi Life (3DS)
10. Grand Theft Auto V (360, PS3)

PS4 version outsells every XB1 title. Even worse, the 360 versions are outselling XB1 versions. 360 owners seem either content to stay on the 360, or are jumping to PS4 instead.
So with multiplatform games selling better on PS4, XB1 has to do better on exclusive content, by either third party exclusives or first party productions. The former costs a lot of money paid to an outside company, the latter costs a lot of money paid to internal staff (who must also exist) to develop games. Microsoft doesn't strike me as having too many strong internal studios, at least compared to Sony (Naughty Dog, various Sony teams worldwide (these are disappearing though)) and Nintendo (obvious).

With such a long post I lost track of where I was going, but I'll close with this: despite the doom and gloom I've written here, XB1 looks bad only in comparison to the PS4 - it is not in any threat of falling off the market entirely like the Vita and the Wii U.

Slime Slayer

07-18-2014, 06:32 PM

It's barely outselling the Wiiu, and it's a hell of a lot newer. Not sure why you'd suggest that the Wiiu might fall out of the market (keep dreamin) but the Xone is safe.

D.B. Cooper

07-22-2014, 12:32 PM

Nintendo Should Scrap the Wii U

http://www.thestreet.com/story/12779029/1/nintendo-should-scrap-the-wii-u.html?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO

"My view, basically, is that the market for the Wii U will not exist for much longer," Windsor added.

Kugyince

07-22-2014, 12:54 PM

Who?

Slime Slayer

07-22-2014, 02:31 PM

In other news, Big Mac sales were down 22% this past fiscal year, so Mcdonald's should just shut down entirely.

What a retarded artical, pure click bait. If VG charts happens to be correct, Wiiu actually outsold the Xbone this past week. I fell like I am taking crazy pills, am I the only one that recognizes that the Wiiu is in the middle of a major upswing?

---------- Post added at 07:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:30 PM ----------

"My view, basically, is that the market for the Wii U will not exist for much longer," Windsor added.

Mario = Market

D.B. Cooper

07-22-2014, 02:35 PM

"Similarly, Richard Windsor, a tech analyst at Radio Free Mobile, tells TheStreet that he has a negative outlook on Nintendo, but would be prepared to "completely reverse" his long-term opinion if Iwata were to push for the transformation of the company into a pure games producer and jettison its hardware business."

I guess if you don't want to read the article, in a nutshell most tech analysts think that Nintendo needs to get out of the hardware business.

"It's hardware struggles are beyond fixing. The Wii U has become trapped between two types of core gaming categories and can't get out. They're casual-based gaming (http://www.thestreet.com/story/12773280/1/ea-changes-video-game-landscape-with-madden-15-cinematogoraphy.html?utm_source=inlinetst&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=inlinetst), which is very big on tablets and smartphones, and hardcore-based gaming, which consists of highly-keen players who are willing to pay up for the Xbox or PlayStation (http://www.thestreet.com/video/12777829/microsoft-closes-in-on-sony-lead-after-doubling-xbox-one-sales.html?utm_source=inlinetst&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=inlinetst) gaming experience."

I don't really have a dog in this race. Just thought some might find it interesting what the meatheads on wall street think about Nintendo and their future.

---------- Post added at 12:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:32 PM ----------

In other news, Big Mac sales were down 22% this past fiscal year, so Mcdonald's should just shut down entirely.

No, they should quit selling Big Macs and concentrate on something that is selling. No one is suggesting Nintendo should go out of business. They just need to get out of the hardware business.

Slime Slayer

07-22-2014, 02:39 PM

No, they should quit selling Big Macs and concentrate on something that is selling. No one is suggesting Nintendo should go out of business. They just need to get out of the hardware business.

That was supposed to be sarcasm.

D.B. Cooper

07-22-2014, 02:47 PM

That was supposed to be sarcasm.

Oops, my sarcasm meter must be on the fritz.

Seahawk

07-22-2014, 04:08 PM

I fell like I am taking crazy pills, am I the only one that recognizes that the Wiiu is in the middle of a major upswing?

Yes :p.

Kugyince

07-22-2014, 04:58 PM

Yes, because they should abandon hardware sales. Never mind the 45 million plus 3DS units sold worldwide or that it will outsell the SNES and potentially outsell the NES by the end of the year.

Dudebro

07-22-2014, 08:26 PM

I thought the article made some good points but apparently it struck some nerves.

Kugyince

07-22-2014, 08:59 PM

Didn't read it.

Slime Slayer

07-22-2014, 09:46 PM

I thought the article made some good points but apparently it struck some nerves.

Yeah, it was designed to, it's click bait.

Dudebro

07-22-2014, 10:56 PM

Yeah, it was designed to, it's click bait.
So because it upset some people it's click bait?

Slime Slayer

07-23-2014, 01:06 AM

So because it upset some people it's click bait?

Gonna offer any insight/information/opinion?..oh.. lol whoops my mistake its Dudebro. Sorry man, forgot you don't do that type of stuff.

Kugyince

07-23-2014, 04:35 AM

It's just how the "market analyst" business works. You get some idiot to make financial suggestions for a multi-billion dollar corporation. This idiot then acts like he somehow knows a specific market better than the hundred-thousand dollar think tank that any major corporation has.

To garner attention, notoriety, and ad revenue as a market analyst requires you to make "bold" claims. No one's going to pay attention to the fiftieth person to state the same opinion after all. The thing is, as a "market analyst" if your claims are proven incorrect five years down the road, no one's even going to remember. If your claims are proven right in five years though, you get to dredge it up and tout yourself as all-knowing.

There's a no-loss situation for market analysts to make giant, attention grabbing claims. The shoddy truth though is that Mr. Windsor and his ilk are probably no more qualified to analyze the video game industry than they are the rice pudding industry.

DrunkN

07-23-2014, 05:43 AM

http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_07/4240.jpg

Sorry bros but it's analyst confirmed. Proof's in the puddin'.

Krendall

07-23-2014, 06:39 AM

It'll be a sad day if Nintendo drops out of the hardware market. The NES brought back console gaming when these so-called market experts said it would be impossible after the video game crash a couple years earlier. Also, I'm still not used to seeing Sonic on every console available (especially Nintendo systems), it'd be downright bizarre to see Mario on a Playstation.

Dudebro

07-23-2014, 08:34 AM

@steven- You must be really mad or something. I don't know why you're flipping out over what I said. Get a grip it's just a corporation it's not like I'm talking trash about your momma.

@Tenser- You don't think he has any good points then? Nintendo is doing great and shouldn't consider changing it's business model?

Kugyince

07-23-2014, 10:20 AM

@Tenser- You don't think he has any good points then? Nintendo is doing great and shouldn't consider changing it's business model?

Didn't read it.

They've turned a profit on both the 3DS and Wuu. I think Ninty's business model could stand a lot of changing. I don't think getting out of hardware sales (hardware an licensing to their hardware drives much more of a profit for them then their software sales do) is something they should even remotely consider.

I thought the article made some good points

Care to elaborate on what points you thought were good and why?

Dudebro

07-23-2014, 12:00 PM

Well you and steven seem pretty heated about this already so I'm not very motivated to discuss it but I guess I'll try.

The point about Nintendo apologizing for bad earnings and how investors might not have much confidence in them at the moment. I don't follow corporate news but this seems to make sense given the circumstances.

The point about the WiiU being between two demographics, casual and hardcore gamers, and not being cheap enough for the former and not powerful enough for the hardcore. Can anyone really say this is inaccurate?

This quote - "The Wii U is truly just for core Nintendo fans". Same with this.

The point about the 3DS being in competition with a fast growing mobile gaming market. Aren't smart phones and tablets becoming the go to device for practically everything including gaming?

The point about how Nintendo could stand to make tons of profit if it got rid of the costs of making hardware. This seems like a no brainer. Cutting costs and reaping the benefits of making games for PC, MS and Sony seems like a win win for them and a big money maker. Seems like corporate pride is the only reason not to consider this idea.

I read the article as offering ideas to save Nintendo and/or help it improve. I think he brings up some good points and he's just saying what most people realize, Nintendo needs to do something big or it's gonna stagnate and suffer. You and Steven come across as just lashing out because you're fanboys. Not trying to start a fight about it, really. I was thinking of not even bothering to reply because of how defensive this got so quickly.

Kugyince

07-23-2014, 12:29 PM

I don't feel I'm being defensive, I just have a general distaste for market analysts. Especially ones who seem to follow in step with the Pachter crowd.

I agree with the top three points.
- Most investors don't care about long term success of a company. Buy in, make a quick profit, get out.
- The second and third point is painfully obvious and it's one of the things I dislike most about the company.

The last two points I don't agree with.
Analysts have been saying that handhelds are dead before the 3DS even came along. 45 million plus 3DS's sold speaks volumes against this theory. There's a large market for a dedicated portable gaming device.

The last point. Nintendo makes a profit on their hardware. I don't feel that Mr. Windsor understands that Nintendo's largest profit sector is not from software sales but licensing fees.

So much lashing out going in in this topic...

Dudebro

07-23-2014, 12:44 PM

Analysts have been saying that handhelds are dead before the 3DS even came along
He's not saying dead he's saying declining. Is it really hard to believe?

The last point. Nintendo makes a profit on their hardware.
But wouldn't they make more profit if they cut the hardware costs and opened up their library to multiple platforms? Seems kinda hard to argue against.

D.B. Cooper

07-23-2014, 01:12 PM

The reason I posted the article in the first place was in response to this quote directed at Seahawk when he suggested the Wiiu might fall out of the market.

It's barely outselling the Wiiu, and it's a hell of a lot newer. Not sure why you'd suggest that the Wiiu might fall out of the market (keep dreamin) but the Xone is safe.

My intention of posting the article was to show that others shared the same view. It was not intended to upset anyone so if it did, I apologize. As a person who's been interested in the stock market for a long time, I consider what an analyst has to say an opinion and I'm interested to hear their opinion as much as I like hearing Seahawk's and stevencassidy's. But I don't put any more importance on their opinion than anyone else's.

As for my opinion, I don't think their hardware business is beyond repair. I do agree that the casual gamer is moving away from the Wii for sure and the 3DS somewhat. The 3DS will be fine and I think they'll always have a niche in the handheld market but if they want to continue selling consoles, a change is needed.

Seahawk

07-23-2014, 02:14 PM

Nintendo doesn't need to drop hardware, nor should they.
However, they definitely need to do it better than they have for the past few years.

Post iPhone launch they haven't had a successful product launch yet.
The 3DS failed miserably for several months before a long bomb price cut kicked off a recovery, sort of. The Wii U flopped through its entire launch year, with Nintendo making a bazillion retailer deals and bundles to try and move inventory. All of this backed by third parties generally abstaining development on their machines for the most part.

They need to not design their hardware around of a gimmick of the day (3D screen, tablet) or if they do they need to actually implement it well or do it at no extra cost to the consumer (even if this means eating that cost themselves). The 3D on the 3DS was dropped as a focus really fast, and its implementation on the 3DS is pretty subpar as it decreases performance when it is active. The Wii U tablet is underutilized, used only as a clone screen or not at all, and not even Nintendo is really coming up with uses for it (Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze, a first party game, just turns it off!).

In addition they need to keep the cost down. 3DS launched at 250$ which was the same launch price for the Gamecube and Wii, for a portable system. Insane. Wii U was 350$ at launch with pretty meh first party games and the same third party games you could get on 360/PS3 for a lot less. It didn't help the PS4 was announced last year for 400$, with better hardware, more games, just everything about it making the Wii U obsolete.
This doesn't mean Nintendo has to make their own mega HD box, they can have whatever hardware they want as long as it is priced accordingly.

Other things are adding an account system (they are working on this but it should have been implemented a LONG LONG time ago) and region free (this is becoming more important as JP studios refuse to localize games, the 3DS suffers dearly for this, and Nintendo consoles are the only ones region locked) but these are minor points compared to what I wrote earlier.

it is not in any threat of falling off the market entirely like the Vita is and the Wii U (was, but it could fall to that point again).

When I wrote my previous long post I swore I had included the bolded, somehow it got lost in editing.

CatalystiCam

07-23-2014, 03:58 PM

I don't really think that Nintendo is in the wrong implementing these "Gimmicks". Consoles are at a point where whatever they do can simply be outdone by pc. Consoles need to focus on specialties that PC's can't do, and I think that's where Nintendo is coming from. It was clearly unnecessary for the 3ds as consumers trust their ability to make a handheld, and affordable price > gimmick has succeeded. I wouldn't be surprised to see another line of 2ds' hit the market being re-tailored for the older market. Meaning it would have the flip phone dealio going on and not be a brick that's intended to not break with lack of hinges. Not to mention the success with titles now hitting the 3DS' library. 3DS will do spectacularly.

As for the WiiU. I'm inclined to disagree that they should be going for this whole powerhouse graphics console. Yes, they settled on some weird gray area between casual and hardcore gaming. They should probably lean more back towards the casual market with what they have, but they do have the ability to make some hardcore games. Nothing graphically spectacular mind you, but why not? Graphics aren't everything.

I don't really fault them for going the route they did either. It was definitely rushed & overly-expensive technology for a new idea to implement the tablet controller, but they have it now. I actually do not think they should drop the tablet either. Maybe they can introduce a line of consoles and games that don't require it, but the tablet opens up a great plethora of ideas, especially when it comes to Asymmetric gaming. They've barely scratched the surface with the idea in games like Mario Chase, Luigi's Mansion and Animal Crossing within Nintendo Land. They need to start making some full games based off those kind of ideas of someone with a tablet fighting people on a tv screen under different circumstances. Just a thought. They introduced the tablet now. May as well roll with it. Unfortunately it's harder to program for and all that good jazz, but they got to get the ball rolling with it to get other game companies and consumers interested in the idea.

Dudebro

07-23-2014, 04:23 PM

As for the WiiU. I'm inclined to disagree that they should be going for this whole powerhouse graphics console.
But no one here is actually saying that. What's being said is the WiiU is stuck between the two extremes and it's not good for business. Last gen they obviously won the casual market but this gen that market isn't as receptive. Only a fool would say Nintendo should try to compete with the entertainment boxes from the other two. Who thinks HD Mario World Infinity would sway the COD crowd, for example.

CatalystiCam

07-23-2014, 04:28 PM

True, all I'm saying is consoles should either be taking the affordable HD route like PS3 or catering more to aspects PC can't cater too. Nintendo's best off trying to make the best casual local multiplayer games. Good ones at that obviously.

Dudebro

07-23-2014, 04:50 PM

Is local coop really a selling point anymore? I always see people talking about it being lazy if there's no online MP along with it.

Besides switching to just selling games I think Nintendo could turn things around by dropping the gimmicks and just focusing on good games, and not just for the family. I think they basically pushed a lot of their adult fans away and right into the arms of their competitors.

Kugyince

07-23-2014, 05:11 PM

Nintendo's next console needs to have a lot of horsepower under the hood. You can not regain 3rd party support if you have a system that's difficult to port your titles to.

Personally I'd love to see them combine the portable/home markets next generation. Phones have been doing 1080p for years now. The technology is there and affordable.

CatalystiCam

07-24-2014, 04:34 PM

You know my work is dead when I wind up here on a cell phone haha.

Is local co op really a selling point? I guess it depends who you ask.

For my friend group and I, yes. Big time. Pretty much all we play is Nintendo co op games. I never liked locally splitscreening ps3 or 360 games. Frankly when you scale down any of those 1080p games thats colour gradients mostly consist of gray, black and Brown with dynamic lighting I cant tell what the hells what. 2 player splitscreen is bad, but 4... Dont make me hurl. A lot of Nintendo's games or games for its console are colourful and things stand out. Eplit the screen 4 ways? No problem. Although ill say Mario kart 8s 4 player is harder for me to make out. Maybe the dynamic lighting I dont know.

Anyways. Not only that there's still clearly a distinct difference of Xbox/Sony multiplaer games and how they work better online. Nintendos games still feel better in a room full of friends and youbcan actually make out whats going on.

Back to my original point though. Personally my friends and I prefer the local games where we're in a room full of people playing some quick and easy party games for lack of a better term. I dont know what it is for me personally either, but I'm loud and outgoing in person whilst gaming. Throw me on Mic with some online game and im quiet ae can be. Its not as fun. Anyone thats played online games with me would know, db included. Dont get me wrong. Online games are fun but there's seperate appeals.

Also im aware that my friends and I qualify as a specific gamer percentage of 18-20 year olds that have easy access to getting to friends via cars and lots more free time but thw appeal is there.

Sorry for any typos. On phone.

Dudebro

07-24-2014, 05:45 PM

There's still people wanting local multiplayer but I really think it's become less and less important for people. Partially because game devs have forced us to accept it not being in games(some games seem practically built for it but they suspiciously leave it out).

Kugyince

07-24-2014, 06:01 PM

Yes and no. Local multiplayer is extremely important for college students who tend to be the target demographic for video games anyways.

Dudebro

07-24-2014, 06:28 PM

If it's so important why don't we see more of it? Supply and demand doesn't seem to be working in this case.

Kugyince

07-24-2014, 07:08 PM

Where are you looking that you don't see a lot of it?

Fighters, racers, sports titles almost always have local multiplayer. Usually FPS and MOBAs as well.

Co-Optimus - Your Prime Source for Co-Op Gaming - Listing of PlayStation 4 Co-Op Games (http://www.co-optimus.com/system/22/playstation-4.html)

All those games with numbers under the "Couch" section are local multiplayer. Big names too like CoD and Diablo.

Dudebro

07-24-2014, 08:49 PM

I guess I don't notice it because I'm not looking for it. For example I was shocked to see Awesomenauts on that page, a local coop MOBA? Wonders never cease.

Demon-Mask

07-24-2014, 09:16 PM

I don't think you can have an effective fighting game without local multiplayer, it's at least as important as, if not even more important than, online in that case

Kugyince

07-24-2014, 10:15 PM

I don't think you can have an effective fighting game without local multiplayer, it's at least as important as, if not even more important than, online in that case

Yeah, most of the super try-hard Evo types wont even play online because of the very slight latency. Plus games like that aren't nearly as fun unless it's with a few buddies and some beers in my opinion.

Dudebro

07-24-2014, 11:10 PM

I don't get to play local coop anymore so I don't bother checking for it, kinda sad really. I think those were the only times I ever really loved fighting games. FPS games were also a lot of fun that way but I think I prefer playing online with hordes of strangers because of how random it is, keeps it fresh.

Slime Slayer

07-24-2014, 11:45 PM

Join the nobody to play games with club.

DrunkN

07-25-2014, 12:03 AM

I'm in college and most of us are computer/laptop people, so local multiplayer can be quite nice.

Demon-Mask

07-25-2014, 12:51 AM

Yeah, most of the super try-hard Evo types wont even play online because of the very slight latency. Plus games like that aren't nearly as fun unless it's with a few buddies and some beers in my opinion.

I mean the latency can be a thing I guess, but that's not what makes online less fun, it's a lot more fun to sit with a group of friends, passing the controller or whatever when you lose, and there's something inherently satisfying about winning against someone right next to you, as opposed to a faceless person with a silly PSN name halfway across the country or even on the other side of the planet.

CatalystiCam

07-25-2014, 01:45 AM

Online was nice without ease of access to friends. I fall in that college age category (though not technically in academic school (Acting Class). I see friends a lot like I said. Local multiplayer is excellent. I've made my point on that, and I don't see why not (at least with the WiiU) focus on that aspect, or the family aspect. Local multiplayer isn't a focus by anybody except Nintendo for the most part so cater to what's open, ya know.

I fully understand the appeal of online multiplayer. Most kids don't have a car or easy access to friends, and most late adults don't have time. Hell, I was the first category (I didn't have friends more accurately...) and likely to be in the second later on.

Furthermore, it's what Nintendo has to work with currently (the local multiplayer market) is the TL: DR of this.

---------- Post added at 11:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:41 PM ----------

I'm in college and most of us are computer/laptop people, so local multiplayer can be quite nice.

Yeah. I find myself using PC/360 for Solo stuff only. Then my older consoles just sit here unless I have friends over. We could all game PC online, but we don't.

D.B. Cooper

07-30-2014, 09:16 AM

I'm hesitant to post this article but it's mostly just facts so hopefully it doesn't get labled as click bait. https://games.yahoo.com/news/nintendo-reports-loss-shaky-wii-u-sales-074542089.html

Seems to me if you don't recognize that the Wiiu and 3DS aren't doing well it's because you have your head in the sand, or are just in denial.

"But Wii U is not as popular as Nintendo had initially hoped for, and it has missed earlier sales targets.

Sales of the 3DS handheld have plunged, dropping to 820,000 for the latest quarter from 1.4 million units a year ago."

Dudebro

07-30-2014, 09:26 AM

Negative news about Nintendo is not well received by some people around here but don't let that stop you from posting links and discussing it.

CatalystiCam

07-30-2014, 11:07 AM

Its all good Cooper. Go for it. Its what this thread is for.

It's not going to change my opinion, but yeah. What happens, happens.

Seahawk

07-30-2014, 11:20 AM

Nintendo Q1 FY14 report (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2014/140730e.pdf)

Hardware: 34.50B yen
Software: 39.8B yen
Other: 0.39B yen
Total Revenue 74.70B yen (-8.4% year over year)

Opt income: -9.47B yen
Net income: -9.92B yen

All units in millions.
Wii U H/W
Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 FY LTD
FY 12/13: - - 3.06 0.39 3.45 3.45
FY 13/14: 0.16 0.30 1.95 0.31 2.72 6.17
FY 14/15: 0.51 0.51 6.68
FY 14/15 Forecast - 3.63DS H/W
Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 FY LTD
FY 10/11: - - - 3.61 3.61 3.61
FY 11/12: 0.71 2.36 8.36 2.10 13.53 17.13
FY 12/13: 1.86 3.20 7.65 1.24 13.95 31.09
FY 13/14: 1.40 2.49 7.76 0.59 12.24 43.33
FY 14/15: 0.82 - - - 0.82 44.14
FY 14/15 Forecast - 12.0

CatalystiCam

07-30-2014, 11:18 PM

Mario kart 8 didnt do much I gather?

Seahawk

07-31-2014, 12:32 AM

MK8 sold 2.82 million in a month, that's pretty damn good for a game on only one platform. That's almost 50% of the entire Wii U install base.

Unfortunately it doesn't seemed to have 'moved units', or at least many new ones.
Alternatively, since it was on sale during only the last month on the reporting period, the real impact in hardware sales may be shifted into Q2.

Slime Slayer

07-31-2014, 01:39 AM

It gave it a boost of console sales, it pushed it up about equal to the XBone, and seems to be hanging out around there, actually since it's release, the Wiiu has moved more units than the XBone.

bearhawk72

07-31-2014, 08:43 AM

I am curious if the WiiU is selling around as much as the xbone because a lot of 360 owners don't see the need to upgrade yet.

Just a thought. I don't have a dog in this fight because I don't plan on buying any of the three anytime soon if ever.

Dudebro

07-31-2014, 09:26 AM

The year head start helped. Not much to brag about when you realize it's just barely equal to a rival it had a big head start on.

CrispyChicken

07-31-2014, 03:21 PM

Slime Slayer

07-31-2014, 03:49 PM

The year head start helped. Not much to brag about when you realize it's just barely equal to a rival it had a big head start on.

This does not make sense, I said since MK8, the Wiiu and XBone are about equal, total sales Wii U has a close to 2 million unit lead.

CrispyChicken

07-31-2014, 04:07 PM

It gave it a boost of console sales, it pushed it up about equal to the XBone, and seems to be hanging out around there, actually since it's release, the Wiiu has moved more units than the XBone.

The year head start helped. Not much to brag about when you realize it's just barely equal to a rival it had a big head start on.

Bolded refers to MK8.

Dudebro

07-31-2014, 04:55 PM

I was replying directly to BH. The WiiU having a head start makes it an unfair comparison unless you factor that in.

CatalystiCam

08-01-2014, 07:23 PM

Gotta ask DB. Do you personally think the Xbox one is good? Comparing its cost and hardware to ps4 and pc.

Scratch that. Im curious what everyones take on the consoles are stripping away all the sales release dates and what have you. Throw pc in the mix too.

Dudebro

08-01-2014, 10:03 PM

What makes you ask me that? I don't even own one.

CatalystiCam

08-01-2014, 10:58 PM

Well I know you liked the 360 a lot. Thought you might have or want one due to that fact. Or at least played one.

I realize your basing most statements off stats of whats what, but whats your actual take on the 3 consoles and pc. Your a gamer too and your commenting on this a lot so yeah. Im curious. For others as well.

Seahawk

08-01-2014, 11:17 PM

All three new consoles suck eggs.

PS4 and Xbox One libraries consist entirely of "mature games for mature gamers such as myself". You can get almost every game on PC, and any exclusive games aren't breaking any new ground to be worth paying hundreds of dollars to have the privilege to play. You also have to pay for online on both.

The Wii U is saddled with a terrible and poorly implemented gimmick controller that is mostly useless and only makes the console more expensive. Third parties have abandoned the console, and Nintendo can't make enough games in a timely manner to prevent months of separation between releases. The only really good thing about it is that it can play Wii U titles in hi res but that's hardly a selling point.

Skip all three and get a PC. You get free online and games for mega cheap prices.

Slime Slayer

08-02-2014, 12:28 AM

I feel similar to SH.

CrispyChicken

08-02-2014, 05:00 AM

Skip all three and get a PC 3DS

Fixed that for you ;)

Kugyince

08-02-2014, 03:00 PM

3DS and a PC is all I'll ever need.

Fantasy Life, Story of Seasons, Pokemon, and Project Steam all this year. Forbidden Magna, Etrian Odyssey, and Bravely Second all but officially confirmed for next year...

3DS is bringing me hit after hit.

samejamesbond

08-02-2014, 05:06 PM

I'm gonna get a 3DS when Smash Bros. comes around.

I'm curious, is there any graph comparing sales of exclusive games on both
the Wii U and 3DS? I'd imagine the 3DS is draining so much from the Wii U
in terms of both hardware and software it would be a rather noticeable
difference.

Kugyince

08-02-2014, 07:06 PM

There might be but the 3DS has ~10x the install base.

D.B. Cooper

08-05-2014, 11:29 AM

I have an Xbox One and have enjoyed it so far. But, I've never played a PS3, an Xbox 360 or a PS 4 so I have nothing to compare it to. Like SH said, the game choices right now kind of suck if you don't want to buy rated M games and I'm frustrated with the fact I can buy things like Minecraft and old classic games for the 360 but not for the One. But the games I have played have been awesome. My kids love the heck out of Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare. The best part so far has been the free games. These so far have all been rated E or T and are perfect for my kids.

As far as console vs PC, for me they don't compare. I have no interest in moving my PC to the living room and hooking it up to my TV so they are totally different experiences. My PC is hooked up to a 29" monitor and I sit in an office chair which gives a great experience but is not very relaxing. I want a console so when I chose to, I can sit back in a recliner chair with a wireless hand held playing on a 60" TV. IMO, that's an experience that can't be duplicated with a PC.

If I had to do it all over again, would I buy a PS4 instead? Probably but the Xbox One doesn't suck.

bearhawk72

08-05-2014, 12:05 PM

To me Nintendo has always seemed to be 1 step behind tech wise since the N64 and it will keep hurting them unless they change their plan.

-The N64 they stuck with carts eventhough it was clear the industry was moving towards CD's at the time. I can give them somewhat of a pass on this since the CD add-ons and CD based games at the time were not successful but they knew the move was coming, they even tried to make their own which lead to the creation of their own rival in the PS1.

-GC: They went with their own media and not standard CD/DVD like the xbox and PS2 did. The lack of online also hurt them. They had an adapter that worked with 1 game I think.

-Wii: They had online but not as fluid as the PS3 and 360 and not nearly as many games supported it. Motion controls were interesting but there was a lack of third party support and it could not run the same games as their counterparts and thus ports were few leaving it behind after a huge start.

-WiiU: Now the system is around as powerful as the 360 and ps3 and got some ports, but with the release of the xbone and ps4 it will likely get left behind again once those systems get more games and pick up some steam.

Now I'm not saying the Nintendo systems sucked, they have their benefits and good games. It's just to me they have been behind the tech curve or are unwilling to push it with their consoles.

Seahawk

08-05-2014, 12:58 PM

Tech is an issue but Nintendo has larger problems with third party relations and perceived demographics. This started all the way back in the NES days and has only continued since then.

Krendall

08-05-2014, 08:06 PM

My understanding about Nintendo, and probably the reason why their tech is behind everyone else now, is they are absolutely paranoid about copy protection. From what I've read, the biggest reason they never developed a CD add-on for the SNES was neither Phillips nor Sony could give a 100% guarantee that the games couldn't be copies or the system modded to play pirated games. Even now doesn't the WiiU use something that's like blu-ray but isn't exactly the same tech?

Seahawk

08-14-2014, 05:46 PM

Early Nintendo NPD PR
Mario Kart 8 has now sold more than 1 million total units in the United States alone, becoming the second Wii U game to cross that milestone, along with New Super Mario Bros. U (1.69 million). Mario Kart 8 continues to drive momentum for the Wii U platform. Through the first seven months of 2014, total sales of Wii U hardware and software have increased by nearly 60 percent and more than 135 percent, respectively, over the same period in 2013.

Notable Wii U games on the way this year include: Hyrule Warriors (Sept. 26), Bayonetta 2 (October), Super Smash Bros. for Wii U (Holiday) and Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker (Holiday). These games will be joined by amiibo, Nintendo’s foray into the toys-to-life category, which will launch this holiday season. Super Smash Bros. for Wii U will be the first game to support amiibo. Other games that will support amiibo include Mario Kart 8, Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker, Mario Party 10 and Yoshi’s Woolly World, with more to come.

The continued strength of the Nintendo 3DS platform can be attributed to the breadth and quality of its overall lineup of software. To date, more than 40 million Nintendo 3DS software units have been sold in the United States alone. This includes 41 titles with a Metacritic score of 80 or higher, seven of which have a score of 90 or higher; and nine games that have sold at least 1 million units in the U.S. alone:

Mario Kart 7: 3.48 million
Super Mario 3D Land: 3.09 million
New Super Mario Bros. 2: 2.28 million
Pokémon X: 2.10 million
Pokémon Y: 2.01 million
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D: 1.39 million
Animal Crossing: New Leaf: 1.36 million
Luigi’s Mansion: Dark Moon: 1.33 million
The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds: 1.09 million

Four of the 10 best-selling software SKUs for July are exclusive to the Nintendo 3DS platform. This includes Tomodachi Life, which finished at No. 5 and sold more than 85,000 units in its second month, and Pokémon Y (No. 8), Pokémon X (No. 9) and Mario Kart 7 (No. 10). Those last three games appeared on the list despite being on the market for 10 months, 10 months and 31 months, respectively. The lineup for Nintendo 3DS will be bolstered by three of the most anticipated games of 2014: Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS (Oct. 3) and Pokémon Omega Ruby and Pokémon Alpha Sapphire (Nov. 21).

TBE

08-14-2014, 11:35 PM

I'll get me one of those next gen consoles when Konami announces Gradius VI.

Seahawk

08-15-2014, 02:19 AM

As a fan myself, you should abandon all hope of that ever happening. Ever.
Konami is not the same company as it was all those years ago.

Seahawk

08-15-2014, 05:27 PM

NPD JULY 2014 - WISHFUL THINKING EDITION
http://www.retrouprising.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3536&stc=1&d=1408140407

This month's special feature!
Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft have all declined to share specific sales numbers for July.

Venturebeat Report (http://venturebeat.com/2014/08/14/july-2014-npd-ps4-xbox-one-have-another-huge-month/)

Software (physical retail):
1. The Last of Us (PS4, PS3)
2. Minecraft (360, PS3)
3. FIFA 14 (360, PS4, Xbox One, PS3, Vita)
4. Watch Dogs (PS4, 360, PS3, Xbox One, PC)
5. Mario Kart 8 (Wii U)
6. Call of Duty: Ghosts (Xbox One, 360, PS4, PS3, Wii U, PC)
7. Grand Theft Auto V (360, PS3)
8. Sniper Elite III (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
9. NBA 2K14 (360, PS3, PS4, Xbox One, PC)
10. Lego Marvel Super Heroes (360, PS3, 3DS, DS, PS4, Wii U, Xbox One, Vita, PC)

Hardware:
??????????????
No numbers confirmed.
The only thing known for certain is PS4 is #1 for July.

With that in mind, here's a chart based on leaks and number crunching
http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_08/4343.png

Important note:
July is typically a quiet month for software sales, representing about 5 percent of annual sales,” said Callahan. “Typically, EA’s NCAA Football launches in July, and often ranks as the top game. As that title is no longer being produced, new launch sales declined steeply by close to 70 percent in July 2014

Official statements:
MILLION-MILE MARKERS: MARIO KART 8 CROSSES 1 MILLION, NINTENDO 3DS SOFTWARE HITS 40 MILLION

Mario Kart 8 has now sold more than 1 million total units in the United States alone, becoming the second Wii U game to cross that milestone, along with New Super Mario Bros. U (1.69 million). Mario Kart 8 continues to drive momentum for the Wii U platform. Through the first seven months of 2014, total sales of Wii U hardware and software have increased by nearly 60 percent and more than 135 percent, respectively, over the same period in 2013.

Notable Wii U games on the way this year include: Hyrule Warriors (Sept. 26), Bayonetta 2 (October), Super Smash Bros. for Wii U (Holiday) and Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker (Holiday). These games will be joined by amiibo, Nintendo’s foray into the toys-to-life category, which will launch this holiday season. Super Smash Bros. for Wii U will be the first game to support amiibo. Other games that will support amiibo include Mario Kart 8, Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker, Mario Party 10 and Yoshi’s Woolly World, with more to come.

The continued strength of the Nintendo 3DS platform can be attributed to the breadth and quality of its overall lineup of software. To date, more than 40 million Nintendo 3DS software units have been sold in the United States alone. This includes 41 titles with a Metacritic score of 80 or higher, seven of which have a score of 90 or higher; and nine games that have sold at least 1 million units in the U.S. alone:

• Mario Kart 7: 3.48 million
• Super Mario 3D Land: 3.09 million
• New Super Mario Bros. 2: 2.28 million
• Pokémon X: 2.10 million
• Pokémon Y: 2.01 million
• The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D: 1.39 million
• Animal Crossing: New Leaf: 1.36 million
• Luigi’s Mansion: Dark Moon: 1.33 million
• The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds: 1.09 million

Four of the 10 best-selling software SKUs for July are exclusive to the Nintendo 3DS platform. This includes Tomodachi Life, which finished at No. 5 and sold more than 85,000 units in its second month, and Pokémon Y (No. 8), Pokémon X (No. 9) and Mario Kart 7 (No. 10). Those last three games appeared on the list despite being on the market for 10 months, 10 months and 31 months, respectively. The lineup for Nintendo 3DS will be bolstered by three of the most anticipated games of 2014: Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS (Oct. 3) and Pokémon Omega Ruby and Pokémon Alpha Sapphire (Nov. 21).

Below are the PlayStation highlights from the July NPD report:

§ PlayStation 4 was #1 in sales for the seventh consecutive month and remains the cumulative leader for next generation game consoles.

§ PlayStation 4 led the month for next generation software sales by a considerable margin, with The Last of Us Remastered taking the #1 spot.

§ PlayStation 4 games accounted for more than half of total next generation software sales.

§ For the second consecutive month, PlayStation was #1 in combined home console hardware sales (PlayStation 4 and PlayStation 3).

Other notable global PlayStation 4 sales milestones from this week:

§ PlayStation 4 sales have surpassed 10 million units sold through to consumers worldwide, demonstrating the fastest and strongest growth in PlayStation hardware history.

§ More than 30 million copies of PS4 software have been sold in retail stores globally and through digital downloads on PS Store.

“Xbox One continues to sell at a strong and steady pace following the release of the $399 console in June, when month-to-month sales more than doubled,” a Microsoft spokesperson told GamesBeat. “We continued to see this momentum in July.”

Happy console wars.

CatalystiCam

08-16-2014, 12:30 AM

Whoa! Minecraft didn't make the top 10 on pc this time?

Seahawk

08-16-2014, 01:52 AM

NPD counts new physical retail sales only. There is no physical release of Minecraft for PC.

Slime Slayer

08-16-2014, 02:14 PM

Everyone should keep in mind that's only NA.

Slime Slayer

08-28-2014, 06:38 PM

Current numbers:
PS4: 10.1 Mill
WiiU: 7.1 Mill
Xbone: 5.0 Mill

WiiU has out sold the Xbone for like 8 or 10 straight weeks now, have not seen a single Xbone is doomed article.

Dudebro

08-28-2014, 06:42 PM

I haven't seen any articles but I've seen plenty of talk about it.

CrispyChicken

08-28-2014, 07:04 PM

Current numbers:
PS4: 10.1 Mill
WiiU: 7.1 Mill
Xbone: 5.0 Mill

WiiU has out sold the Xbone for like 8 or 10 straight weeks now, have not seen a single Xbone is doomed article.

Jeez, that's kinda sad.

Slime Slayer

08-29-2014, 10:12 PM

Amibos dominating Amazon best sellers list:
Amazon.com Best Sellers: Best Video Games

Slime Slayer

09-10-2014, 04:59 PM

Xbone flopped really hard in JP. What surprising is just how hard it flopped:
Xbox One Sells 23,562 Units in Japan in Its First Week According to Famitsu | DualShockers (http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/09/10/xbox-one-sells-23562-units-in-japan-in-its-first-week-according-to-famitsu/)

1998.11.27 [Sega Dreamcast] (¥29,800) – 101,490 (3 days)
2000.03.04 [Sony PlayStation 2] (¥39,800) – 630,552 (2 days)
2001.09.14 [Nintendo GameCube] (¥25,000) – 133,719 (3 days)
2002.02.22 [Microsoft Xbox] (¥34,800) – 123,929 (3 days)
2005.12.10 [Microsoft Xbox 360] (¥29,000 / ¥39,795) – 62,135 (2 days)
2006.11.11 [Sony PlayStation 3] (¥49,980 / ¥59,980) – 88,443 (2 days)
2006.12.02 [Nintendo Wii] (¥25,000) – 371,936 (2 days)
2012.12.08 [Nintendo Wii U] (¥26,250 / ¥31,500) – 308,570 (2 days)
2014.02.22 [Sony PlayStation 4] (¥41,979 / ¥46,179)- 322,083 (2 days)
2014.09.04 [Microsoft Xbox One] (¥43,178 / ¥53,978 ) – 23,562 (4 days)

samejamesbond

09-10-2014, 05:35 PM

It's not surprising, I can't think of any xbox exclusive that sells in Japan outside Gears of War.

Seahawk

09-12-2014, 02:59 AM

Shmups on the 360 would chart the week they came out, but that's about it.

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NPD AUGUST 2014 - BORING EDITION
http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_09/4460.jpg
Two months ago on NPD:
PS4 > XB1 > 3DS > Wii U > 360 > PS3 > Dead > Wii > Vita

Last month on NPD:
PS4 > XB1 > 3DS > Wii U > 360 > PS3 > Dead > Vita > Wii

This month on NPD:
PS4 > XB1 > 3DS > Wii U > 360 > PS3 > Dead > Wii > Vita

Venturebeat Report (http://venturebeat.com/2014/09/11/august-2014-npd-madden-sells-better-on-ps4-than-xbox-one/)

Software (new physical retail)
1. Madden NFL 15 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
2. Diablo III: Reaper of Souls (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)
3. Minecraft (360, PS3)
4. The Last of Us (PS4, PS3)
5. Call of Duty: Ghosts (360, Xbox One, PS4, PS3, PC, Wii U)
6. Lego Marvel Super Heroes (360, PS3, Wii U, PS4, 3DS, DS, Xbox One, Vita, PC)
7. Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare (360, PS3, PS4, Xbox One)
8. Watch Dogs (PS4, 360, PS3, Xbox One, PC)
9. Battlefield 4 (360, PS3, PS4, Xbox One, PC)
10. The Lego Movie Videogame (360, 3DS, PS3, Wii U, PS4, Xbox One, Vita)

Hardware:
Lol you thought you'd get actual confirmed numbers
PS4 #1 confirmed

Leaks:
PS4 ~ 190k
XB1 ~ 160.2k
WIU ~ 59.75k
360 ~ 49.5k
PS3 ~ 27.25k
Wii ~ 13.5k
Vita < 6k

“PlayStation 4 was No. 1 in hardware sales for the eighth consecutive month,” PlayStation senior vice president of marketing Guy Longworth said. “And it remains the cumulative leader for new-generation game consoles.”

“Xbox One sales are on a positive trajectory, nearly doubling sales in August in the U.S. compared to July due in part to strong demand for the Xbox One Madden NFL 15 bundle. We’re looking forward to bringing the best value bundles, incredible offers like the ‘Buy a Console, Get a Game Free’ promotion running now, and more great games as we gear up for the launches of Halo: The Master Chief Collection, Sunset Overdrive, Forza Horizon 2, Destiny, Grand Theft Auto V, and Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare.”

No Nintendo PR

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WiiU has out sold the Xbone for like 8 or 10 straight weeks now, have not seen a single Xbone is doomed article.http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_09/4461.png

Slime Slayer

09-12-2014, 03:58 AM

Why do you only report NA?

Seahawk

09-12-2014, 04:53 AM

A. The few times I posted JP sales (the data is public and free) nobody took note. Data comes out on several trackers (Media Create, Famitsu, Dengeki, others) weekly, this thread doesn't get enough posting attention to merit so much effort by me. Usually companies will announce official numbers in their financial briefings so waiting for those is probably better.

B. The video game console market in Japan is terminal, and is steadily losing relevance.

C. I don't have any reliable sales data for EU. EU is like 30 countries and there is no centralized sales reporting service.

D. Most people don't follow games released in Japan so posting their software lists is kind of pointless.

Here's JP data for Sept. 1 - 7
Media Create Group

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|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |
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| 3DS # | 29.555 | 37.515 | 79.191 | 1.464.325 | 2.536.671 | 16.126.245 |
| XB1 | 25.674 | | | 25.674 | | 25.674 |
| PSV # | 15.351 | 20.734 | 7.314 | 873.046 | 692.892 | 3.228.403 |
| WIU | 7.349 | 8.584 | 5.702 | 389.399 | 440.612 | 1.914.829 |
| PS4 | 7.299 | 6.502 | | 685.484 | | 685.484 |
| PS3 | 6.139 | 7.895 | 13.790 | 360.751 | 605.864 | 10.070.425 |
| PSP # | 288 | 187 | 5.493 | 96.937 | 358.117 | 20.165.346 |
| 360 | 126 | 86 | 201 | 8.094 | 18.181 | 1.647.410 |
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| ALL | 91.781 | 81.503 | 112.669 | 3.903.710 | 4.710.452 | 53.863.816 |
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| PSVTV | 910 | 1.156 | | 60.392 | | 136.636 |
| PSV | 14.441 | 19.578 | 7.314 | 812.654 | 692.892 | 3.091.767 |
| 3DSLL | 23.624 | 30.111 | 60.077 | 1.104.075 | 1.662.722 | 6.529.961 |
| 3DS | 5.931 | 7.404 | 19.114 | 360.250 | 873.949 | 9.596.284 |
| PSP | 288 | 187 | 5.493 | 96.937 | 358.117 | 19.989.359 |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------01./03. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch 2: Ganso / Honke <RPG> (Level 5) {2014.07.10} (¥4.937) - 63.401 / 2.422.146 (-8%)
02./00. [3DS] Dragon Quest X Online <RPG> (Square Enix) {2014.09.04} (¥4.104) - 52.375 / NEW
03./02. [PSV] Toukiden: The Age of Demons Extreme # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2014.08.28} (¥6.264) - 26.599 / 105.983 (-66%)
04./04. [PSV] Love Live! School Idol Paradise Vol.1: Printemps / Vol.2: BiBi / Vol.3: Lily White # <ACT> (Kadokawa Games) {2014.08.28} (¥6.998) - 12.856 / 72.566 (-78%)
05./01. [PS3] Persona 4: Arena Ultimax # <FTG> (Atlus) {2014.08.28} (¥7.538) - 12.004 / 101.472 (-87%)
06./00. [PS4] Samurai Warriors 4 <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2014.09.04} (¥7.776) - 11.757 / NEW
07./00. [XB1] Titanfall <ACT> (Electronic Arts) {2014.09.04} (¥7.884) - 8.961 / NEW
08./08. [WIU] Mario Kart 8 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2014.05.29} (¥6.156) - 8.221 / 659.079 (-26%)
09./06. [3DS] Medarot 8: Kabuto Ver. / Kuwagata Ver. <RPG> (Rocket Company) {2014.08.28} (¥6.264) - 8.214 / 41.540 (-75%)
10./00. [XB1] Dead Rising 3 <ACT> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2014.09.04} (¥7.452) - 7.786 / NEW

Famitsu

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|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |
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| 3DS # | 27.846 | 34.748 | 78.300 | 1.476.650 | 2.525.175 | 16.170.661 |
| XB1 | 23.562 | | | 23.562 | | 23.562 |
| PSV # | 15.560 | 22.800 | 7.427 | 868.224 | 678.726 | 3.143.363 |
| PS4 | 6.373 | 5.757 | | 672.791 | | 672.791 |
| PS3 | 5.737 | 6.225 | 11.932 | 363.427 | 585.908 | 9.931.927 |
| WIU | 5.551 | 6.237 | 5.054 | 380.616 | 417.414 | 1.899.043 |
| PSP # | 128 | 102 | 4.482 | 82.288 | 358.648 | 19.690.781 |
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| ALL | 84.757 | 76.052 | 108.463 | 3.867.558 | 4.644.089 | 51.532.128 |
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| PSP | 128 | 102 | 4.482 | 82.288 | 358.648 | 19.530.206 |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------01./04. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch 2: Ganso / Honke <RPG> (Level 5) {2014.07.10} (¥4.937) - 60.469 / 2.381.932 <80-100%> (-20%)
02./00. [3DS] Dragon Quest X Online <RPG> (Square Enix) {2014.09.04} (¥4.104) - 59.053 / NEW <80-100%>
03./01. [PSV] Toukiden: The Age of Demons Extreme # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2014.08.28} (¥6.264) - 23.616 / 123.689 <60-80%> (-76%)
04./00. [XB1] Titanfall # <ACT> (Electronic Arts) {2014.09.04} (¥7.884) - 22.416 / NEW <40-60%>
05./00. [XB1] Kinect Sports Rivals # <SPT> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2014.09.04} (¥7.452) - 14.191 / NEW <40-60%>
06./03. [PS3] Persona 4: Arena Ultimax # <FTG> (Atlus) {2014.08.28} (¥7.538) - 12.464 / 97.871 <60-80%> (-85%)
07./00. [PS4] Samurai Warriors 4 <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2014.09.04} (¥7.776) - 10.672 / NEW <40-60%>
08./02. [PSV] Love Live! School Idol Paradise Vol.1: Printemps / Vol.2: BiBi / Vol.3: Lily White # <ACT> (Kadokawa Games) {2014.08.28} (¥6.998) - 9.822 / 97.991 <60-80%> (-89%)
09./00. [XB1] Dead Rising 3 <ACT> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2014.09.04} (¥7.452) - 7.330 / NEW <40-60%>
10./09. [3DS] Yoshi's New Island <ACT> (Nintendo) {2014.07.24} (¥4.936) - 6.776 / 187.799 <80-100%> (-37%)

As you see the tracked numbers vary, so an average is probably somewhere in the middle. Again, it's probably better to wait for official corporate announcements.