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Old 09-21-2010, 05:46 PM   #51
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Castlevania?
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I must've missed all the religious promotion in Castlevania. If you mean the religious icons in the background then no that doesn't count.
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Old 09-21-2010, 05:50 PM   #53
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Agreed, religious iconography is a mainstay of gothic horror.
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Old 09-21-2010, 06:01 PM   #54
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I must've missed all the religious promotion in Castlevania. If you mean the religious icons in the background then no that doesn't count.
Holy water, a blessed whip, and isn't the main character {Jason Belmont?} supposed to be a Puritan, like Solomon Kane?

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And how does that promote any particular religion? It's atmosphere and nothing more. If it didn't have that stuff it would seem weird or shallow.
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Old 09-21-2010, 06:30 PM   #56
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If I'm not mistaken, the 3D Castlevanias have much more religious references.
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Old 09-21-2010, 06:32 PM   #57
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I think it's safe to assume that all the Castlevanias have religious iconography. Like Tenser said it's part of the gothic horror theme. None of that means it's promoting any religion though. In fact I bet die hard religious people would put these games in the same category as Harry Potter and other pagan, devilish media.
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Well for that matter, what would 'Evil' be without 'Good' and vice versa?



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Or at least they contrast each other, like a complimentary set of pistons in an engine, or transistors in a circuit, they play off and feed off each other and other deep philosophical stuff.
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Gandalf wouldn't be good either, he uses magic and he exists in a world with very different gods. He's a pagan devil too. Pinhead is evil though, not much debate there.
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Old 09-21-2010, 07:03 PM   #60
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The reason you all may have missed the religious iconography in Castlevania games is that it was heavily censored, even up to Symphony of the Night.
That is why it would seem more prevalent in the 3D ones, they were never censored for it.
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Interesting read, this is a sampling of Nintendo censorship, not how much religious stuff comes up:

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActRaiser"]ActRaiser[/ame] [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Nintendo_Entertainment_System"]Super Nintendo Entertainment System[/ame] [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion"]Religious[/ame] references
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActRaiser_2"]ActRaiser 2[/ame] Super Nintendo Entertainment System Religious references
Addams Family Super Nintendo Entertainment System [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defecation"]Defecation[/ame]
Another World Super Nintendo Entertainment System [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudity"]Nudity[/ame]; blood
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballz"]Ballz[/ame] Super Nintendo Entertainment System [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slang"]Slang[/ame]
The Bard's Tale [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Entertainment_System"]Nintendo Entertainment System[/ame] [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol"]Alcohol[/ame] references
Bionic Commando Nintendo Entertainment System [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profanity"]Language[/ame]; [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism"]Nazi[/ame] references
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackthorne"]Blackthorne[/ame] Super Nintendo Entertainment System; [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Boy_Advance"]Game Boy Advance[/ame] Blood
Castlevania III: Dracula's Curse Nintendo Entertainment System nudity [1]
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castlevania:_Dracula_X"]Castlevania: Dracula X[/ame] Super Nintendo Entertainment System [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood"]Blood[/ame], Death Color (Japanese version, Richter turned red, International ports, Richter turned White)
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrono_Trigger"]Chrono Trigger[/ame] Super Nintendo Entertainment System Alcohol references
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Warrior"]Dragon Warrior[/ame] Nintendo Entertainment System Religious references
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Warrior_II"]Dragon Warrior II[/ame] Nintendo Entertainment System Religious references
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Warrior_III"]Dragon Warrior III[/ame] Nintendo Entertainment System Religious references; [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bar"]gay bar[/ame] reference
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Quest_IV:_Chapters_of_the_Chosen"]Dragon Warrior IV[/ame] Nintendo Entertainment System Religious references
Doom Super Nintendo Entertainment System, Game Boy Advance Satanic themes; blood
Ducktales Nintendo Entertainment System Religious references [2]
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Nukem_64"]Duke Nukem 3D[/ame] [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_64"]Nintendo 64[/ame] Nudity, language, use of drugs
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EarthBound"]EarthBound (Mother 2)[/ame] Super Nintendo Entertainment System Alcohol references; religious references; nudity; child abuse
AD&D: Eye of the Beholder Super Nintendo Entertainment System Religious references
Final Fantasy Nintendo Entertainment System Religious references
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_IV"]Final Fantasy II (Final Fantasy IV)[/ame] Super Nintendo Entertainment System Language; religious references; death references; [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sexuality"]sexual[/ame] content
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_VI"]Final Fantasy III (Final Fantasy VI)[/ame] Super Nintendo Entertainment System Language; alcohol references; nudity
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Legend_II"]Final Fantasy Legend II[/ame] [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Boy"]Game Boy[/ame] Drug references
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fight"]Final Fight[/ame] Super Nintendo Entertainment System Sexual content; alcohol references; strong language
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flashback:_The_Quest_for_Identity"]Flashback[/ame] Super Nintendo Entertainment System Death references
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Climber"]Ice Climber[/ame] Nintendo Entertainment System [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_hunting"]Seal clubbing[/ame] reference (also censored in Europe)
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Tank"]Iron Tank[/ame] Nintendo Entertainment System Nazi references
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time"]The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time[/ame] (Outside of Japan versions) [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_64"]Nintendo 64[/ame] Religious references; blood was also removed to avoid a T Rating by the [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESRB"]ESRB[/ame] (not removed in original run)
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lethal_Enforcers"]Lethal Enforcers[/ame]
Super Nintendo Entertainment System Stereotype; (changed level 2's name Chinatown Assault to Downtown assault for the SNES version)illegal drugs; (changed level 4's name from The Drug dealers to The Gunrunners for the SNES version)[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence"]Violence[/ame] (Enemies remain the same pose when shot)[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood"]Blood[/ame]
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lufia_II:_Rise_of_the_Sinistrals"]Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals[/ame] Super Nintendo Entertainment System Sexual content; alcohol references; religious references
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maniac_Mansion"]Maniac Mansion[/ame] Nintendo Entertainment System Nudity reference; dialogue; other
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metroid_Prime_3:_Corruption"]Metroid Prime 3: Corruption[/ame] ([ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metroid_Prime_Trilogy"]Trilogy[/ame] re-release) [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Wii"]Nintendo Wii[/ame] Language ("Damn" to "No!")
Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! Nintendo Entertainment System [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_stereotype"]Ethnic stereotypes[/ame]; alcohol references
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mega_Man_Zero_3"]Mega Man Zero 3[/ame] Game Boy Advance Satanic references; Blood
Mortal Kombat Super Nintendo Entertainment System; Game Boy Violence; blood
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_Kombat_II"]Mortal Kombat II[/ame] (Japanese version only) Super Nintendo Entertainment System Violence; Blood; Fatalities
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_Mario:_The_Thousand_Year_Door"]Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door[/ame] Nintendo GameCube [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT"]LGBT[/ame] references
Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Nintendo DS Simulated gambling
Shadowrun
Super Nintendo Entertainment System Death references
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_Fighter_Alpha_2"]Street Fighter Alpha 2[/ame]
Super Nintendo Entertainment System Violence, Blood, Slang
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunset_Riders"]Sunset Riders[/ame]
Super Nintendo Entertainment System Ethnic stereotypes, sexual content
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Castlevania_IV"]Super Castlevania IV[/ame] (Outside of Japan-versions) Super Nintendo Entertainment System Religious references; nudity; blood [3]
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Mario_RPG:_Legend_of_the_Seven_Stars"]Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars[/ame] Super Nintendo Entertainment System [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obscene"]Obscene[/ame] [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gesture"]gestures[/ame] [4]
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Bart"]Virtual Bart[/ame] [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Nintendo_Entertainment_System"]Super Nintendo Entertainment System[/ame] (All regional releases, including the [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mega_Drive"]Sega Genesis/Mega Drive[/ame] version) [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudity"]Nudity[/ame]
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WarioWare_Twisted"]WarioWare Twisted[/ame]
Game Boy Advance [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal"]Fecal[/ame] references
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfenstein_3D"]Wolfenstein 3D[/ame]
Super Nintendo Entertainment System [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Germany"]Nazi Germany[/ame] references; violence; [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_cruelty"]animal cruelty[/ame]
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombies_Ate_My_Neighbors"]Zombies Ate My Neighbors[/ame]
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Nintendo_Entertainment_System"]Super Nintendo Entertainment System[/ame] Blood, Gore


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Old 09-21-2010, 07:29 PM   #62
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I don't even think that's all of it.
When the Megaman Zero Collection was released on the DS, they removed all references to death and blood.
Even the ones left in.

I understand the Mike Tyson's Punch Out censorship a bit, at least to the degree of changing "Vodka Drunkinski" to "Soda Popinski"
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They remove religious stuff because the US is known to be backwards about religious stuff. I don't blame them one bit for avoiding the issue all together. The alternative is to have morons flipping out over images/references in a video game, just not worth it. It depresses me to think I live in a country like that but it's true.
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I don't think I've ever played a version of Ice Climber without the seal clubbing.
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I don't think I've ever played a version of Ice Climber without the seal clubbing.
You must have been playing the Japanese version then.

In the arcade by my house and on the home cartridge they were replaced by this fuzzy white things.

The first time I saw it with a seal instead was on one of those 190 in 1 pirate cartridges you could buy for the Nintendo back in the day that had the Japanese version on it.
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