Spider-Man Reboot!

[AK Bullet Storm]

For those of you who don't already know, there will not be a Spider-Man 4 instead there will be a Spider-Man reboot. Pretty much what happened was that director Sam Raimi couldn't find a script that he liked and he wasn't going to make the release date for Spider-Man 4 on May 4th, 2011. So he departed from the project altogether and Tobey Maguire as well. Sony Pictures plans to have James Vanderbilt write a script for the reboot and send the web-slinger back to high school. What are your thoughts on this, good or bad? And if you have any wishes as to what you want the reboot to include in it please feel free to share!

[joz]

Well I think Batman Begins is a good example of what could be. I really feel that this could help. The Spiderman movies were ok in my opinion. I would have liked more depth into the characters and story. Spiderman 3 was a waste of my time. I hated how there were three big enemies squeezed into one movie. Venom is more than big enough of a character that he deserves all of spiderman's attention. So yeah, I think taking it back to the begining and starting from scratch would be a more than welcome idea.

[Dudebro]

I agree with Jozman but I'm not as optimistic about it. I'm worried that they'll try to focus on the teen drama thing to attract a young crowd and just ignore all the older fans who won't care for it.
Btw how about the rumors of Robert Pattinson taking over the role of Spiderman? Sure it's being denied by everyone but Hollywood is known for casting retardedly to capitalize on fame. Coming off the Twilight movies this might just be true in the end. If he plays spiderman there's an automatic fanbase from day 1. If this happens I doubt I'll watch anymore Spiderman moves.

[Kong]

I always hated spiderman except for Retro Uprising - Arcade - Spider-Man and Venom in Separation Anxiety (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/3770/)

So are the just going to start the whole series over with new actors and retell it from the beginning. Lame.

[Winnebagel]

I agree with Jozman but I'm not as optimistic about it. I'm worried that they'll try to focus on the teen drama thing to attract a young crowd and just ignore all the older fans who won't care for it.
Btw how about the rumors of Robert Pattinson taking over the role of Spiderman? Sure it's being denied by everyone but Hollywood is known for casting retardedly to capitalize on fame. Coming off the Twilight movies this might just be true in the end. If he plays spiderman there's an automatic fanbase from day 1. If this happens I doubt I'll watch anymore Spiderman moves.

I agree on this one. I didn't like Spider-Man 3 very much (tried to do too much), I thought the first two were pretty good. I also am not excited about seeing it go all high school. I hear the next X-men is going to be the same way, so that's kind of a bummer too.

[Dudebro]

It's almost like they're trying to sabotage the superhero theme. The decision makers in Hollywood(or where ever they are) are so out of touch it's not even funny anymore.

[Winnebagel]

It's almost like they're trying to sabotage the superhero theme. The decision makers in Hollywood(or where ever they are) are so out of touch it's not even funny anymore.

Too true. To me it seems like they are trying to appeal to the little kids instead of doing stories with more mature characters that would appeal to older audiences. That's how I felt about the more recent X-Men Evolution cartoon too. It was the same way.

Right now, I think the Iron Man and Batman franchises are the only ones that are still trying to do anything more mature. I hope Thor will be cool, though.

I had higher hopes for the new stuff coming out of Marvel, but I read an article last week where Disney was talking about how they are about to get more involved in Marvel films, so I don't know what's going to happen with that now either.

[Dudebro]

To be fair I think Xmen Evolution was meant for kids anyways.

Btw did you hear the next Xmen movie is supposed to be about a young Magneto? Sure it sounds like it might be ok but you can bet he'll be emo and uninteresting. This isn't how it should be of course, remember that scene where he bends the bars in the concentration camp? Yeah, it better be more like that.

[Winnebagel]

To be fair I think Xmen Evolution was meant for kids anyways.

Sure, but the X-Men cartoon from the 90's was too, and it was awesome. They told great stories and featured mostly grown up characters, not the Muppet Babies versions.


Btw did you hear the next Xmen movie is supposed to be about a young Magneto? Sure it sounds like it might be ok but you can bet he'll be emo and uninteresting. This isn't how it should be of course, remember that scene where he bends the bars in the concentration camp? Yeah, it better be more like that.

I don't know if it will be true, but what I heard is that it will feature young high school versions of Cyclops, Jean Gray, etc., but will somehow feature the Magneto origin story too. I think originally they were going to do an X-Men Origins: Magneto movie, but now they are going to combine the story with X-Men High. :talktohand:

[Dudebro]

I understand marketing to younger people but I know when I was a kid I wanted to emulate older people and adult situations, not stuff I was already doing basically. Am I alone in that? Was there some shift in our culture that I missed? Was I so cool I missed this lameness when I was a kid?

Stop making our cool characters lame.

[Tails]

Xmen Evolution was awesome.

[Demon-Mask]

Too true. To me it seems like they are trying to appeal to the little kids instead of doing stories with more mature characters that would appeal to older audiences. That's how I felt about the more recent X-Men Evolution cartoon too. It was the same way.

Right now, I think the Iron Man and Batman franchises are the only ones that are still trying to do anything more mature. I hope Thor will be cool, though.

I had higher hopes for the new stuff coming out of Marvel, but I read an article last week where Disney was talking about how they are about to get more involved in Marvel films, so I don't know what's going to happen with that now either.
It is annoying, marketing to the 6-10 year old crowd, and Disney's involvment could make it worse.
Batman has never seemed to be marketed towards kids, it's just too violent and dark and any change to this will ruin Batman.

[Timber Wolf]

It could be interesting, I'm not optimistic either, it was way to much potential suck and fail in it. BTW who is Robert Patterson?
I have this strange feeling that if I google it, I may regret what I see for the rest of the day

[jim5cents]

lame...weren't the raimi movies release like 10 years ago, or even less than that? too soon.

[Demon-Mask]

It could be interesting, I'm not optimistic either, it was way to much potential suck and fail in it. BTW who is Robert Patterson?
I have this strange feeling that if I google it, I may regret what I see for the rest of the day
The person who plays the fairy-vampire Edward in Twilight.

[AK Bullet Storm]

so now that we have a director for the project, Marc Webb (500 Days of Summer), who would you cast for Spidey, Mary Jane, and other supporting roles? Also which bad guy is Spider-Man going to square off against?

[Demon-Mask]

Spider Man should fight Reptile. That's all I've got out of your list AK

[AK Bullet Storm]

I was really looking forward to The Lizard showing up in the fourth installment in Sam Raimi's Spider-Man series, although its been rumored that he was going to go with The Vulture played by the amazing John Malkovich. I'd also like to see The Scorpion. But since they're rumored to be going with the Ultimate Spider-Man storylines we'll probably see a Spidey vs. Venom in the first movie. Hopefully they get it right this time...

[StarfoxFan2009]

As long as they do not cast Robert Patterson the Sparkling vampire princess i'll watch it.

[Demon-Mask]

I think of Patterson as a fairy-vampire, but it should be good.

[Dudebro]

Not to defend the fairy vampire kid but people were uneasy about Heath Ledger playing the joker and that worked out well, minus some weirdos who disagree.

[Demon-Mask]

Ah, but Ledger was a good actor otherwise, Patterson just kind of sucks all around.

[Dudebro]

Yeah that's a good point. I think most of Ledgers criticism came from his role as gay cowboy Enis(not a typo) in Brokeback Mountain. I saw the movie and didn't like it but I can safely say that Ledger did a great job in it.

[Demon-Mask]

I haven't seen it, but he is a good actor, and has the balls to play a gay cowboy, something most actors wouldn't touch.

[Dudebro]

Yeah it's a bold role but I'm sure he did it with that in mind. He wanted to be known as an actor who'll do anything for a role, being Enis accomplished that goal I'd say. Without spoiling anything he gives his all for the role. I don't remember any nudity(might've blacked it out:lol:) but it would be very uncomfortable for homophobes.

I don't wanna derail this but I doubt a topic about Brokeback would get much activitiy. Has anyone here seen it?

[Demon-Mask]

I kind of want to see it. I am in no way a homophobe, and can deal with seriously gay things.

[Dudebro]

I didn't like the movie itself but I can respect what they were trying to do. I think the story is messed up and overrated.

[Demon-Mask]

Ah, but it is the concept and the balls it took to make such a movie, that draw me in.

[Dudebro]

You should watch it so we can see if I'm just being too critical of it or w/e.

[Tails]

so I saw this comic book of Spiderman, and not brokebook or w/e the hell it's called at my work. I read it, it had Obama and Mccain in it. O_o

[AK Bullet Storm]

i have seen Brokeback Mountain and i agree that it was completely over-rated. On another note, I believe Ledger did an excellent job in the movie like he usually did in his other films...good argument on the Ledger/Joker thing, but the fairy-vamp should never don the Spider-Man suit!

[StarfoxFan2009]

That would be like Taylor Lautner playing Ryu in a new street fighter movie. (not that there is going to be one)

[Tails]

So much for my post re-railing it. :(

[StarfoxFan2009]

not necessarily, Tails. I'd love to see a spiderman reboot, but not until i see the A-team movie

[joz]

yeah I saw the trailer for the A Team today when I went to go see Legion. Legion was ok, I was expecting something more epic.

[Dudebro]

i have seen Brokeback Mountain and i agree that it was completely over-rated. On another note, I believe Ledger did an excellent job in the movie like he usually did in his other films...good argument on the Ledger/Joker thing, but the fairy-vamp should never don the Spider-Man suit!
Yeah Robert Pattinson doesn't seem to have the same talent that Ledger had. I'm afraid he'd get picked purely on his twilight hype.

That would be like Taylor Lautner playing Ryu in a new street fighter movie. (not that there is going to be one) That wouldn't be as bad really if you consider that Lautner is a martial artist. At least he would bring that to the role for some realism.

[Demon-Mask]

And he kind of resembles Ryu.

[fenrir1887]

That's true. Still, the Spider-Man movie series needs someone who won't make a complete wimp out of Spider-Man and yet play a good nerd, which is what Peter Parker is.

[joz]

I heard rumors that Zac Efron is going to be Spiderman

http://keybume.exteen.com/images/photo-of-zac-efron.jpg

[fenrir1887]

No way is he going to be Spider-Man. He fails on both counts. He's a wimp and certainly not smart enough to play Parker. Besides, he's too young since I hear the latest takes place while Peter was teaching school.

[joz]

Really? I heard that he was going to be back in high school. What difference does it make if he's a wimp or not smart enough to play Parker? If he's a good actor then he should be able to play the role just fine. I've never seen him in any movie, but he's young enough to play the role and I can see him looking goofy wearing glasses and dressed up to fit the role. If you're going to hold up the actor to be strong and smart like the character one plays, then Topher was not a good choice to play Venom. He's not strong enough and he's a bit too smart.

[fenrir1887]

Come on, Efron's not good enough. Look at Spider-Man again. While it's true anybody could play him, Spider-Man requires a touch not even Zac Efron's got. Still, it's up in the air.

[joz]

Hey, I'm not saying that I want him to play the role. I'm just spitting what I heard. I'll give him credit on his looks, but as far as his acting goes, I already stated that I've never seen the kid act.
Ok so if he's not good enough then who?

[Tails]

Dunno, Ashton Kutcher could be a good Spiderman.

[fenrir1887]

My options are limited, thanks to the list of actors who are either too old or too new. I'd rather see Efron take the role than someone from the Jonas Bros.

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Ashton, huh? A little bit of camera work and that could be interesting

[joz]

Yeah but he's a bit too old for the part don't you think?

What about this guy?
YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.

[Tails]

The joy of Hollywood don't matter with age.

[joz]

Then why not let Tobey stay on as Spiderman? Or is he not wanting the part?

[Tails]

New director I think?

[joz]

I see...

[Tails]

Helps if I read the first post. :P Basically he is starting fresh.

[joz]

that's cool. hopefully it doesn't turn out to be like the Superman remake.

[fenrir1887]

Uh, huh. I agree. They should have left that alone. No wonder Brandon Routh hasn't found a new job. The Superman curse strikes again. Let's hope the Spider-Man series doesn't develop one.

[Dudebro]

I think the superman thing is different. Superman is just boring compared to most other super heros. With all the recent exposure to Marvel it's hard to make a movie about a generic indestructable good guy who's only weakness seems to be so easy to find. Even a bad guy with no super powers is able to pwn superman regularly. That would never happen to Wolverine.

[Tails]

Would you rather be the Hulk, Shrek, or Superman DB?

[Dudebro]

The hulk without question. It's funny you brought him up, I think he's the best superhero of them all. As long as he's pointed at the bad guys he's an unstoppable force for good.
Hulk would rip superman to shreds.

[Tails]

I like Nightcrawlet myself.

[Dudebro]

Yeah Nightcrawler is another favorite of mine. He's kind of like Spiderman but cooler.

[Tails]

Teleportation FTW

[joz]

Nightcrawler is the bomb! Great mutant power with sword skills is a good combination. But yeah, Superman is a bit overrated. Batman on the other hand is one of the best super heroes out there because he needs no fancy super powers. Batman could even bang Wonder Woman in he wanted to.

[fenrir1887]

Don't get me going. The problem is most people think that way. First off, just because Batman has 127 different martial arts styles does not mean he can beat Wonder Woman. Secondly, besides the fact said bad guy happens to be Lex Luthor don't mean anything. I'm a big fan of Superman and have read plenty of his comics. Powers or no, he always finds a way to beat his enemies.

[joz]

Don't get me going. The problem is most people think that way. First off, just because Batman has 127 different martial arts styles does not mean he can beat Wonder Woman..

:snicker: hahaha! I never said Batman could beat Wonder Woman in a fight. I meant bang Wonder Woman as in sexxy time bang.

[Dudebro]

I'm a big fan of Superman and have read plenty of his comics. Powers or no, he always finds a way to beat his enemies.
Well that's nothing special considering almost all super heros do the same. My point is Superman is supposed to be this all powerful, invincible hero but he's thwarted regularly by a guy with no super powers. Batman is the better DC character because he's overcoming his weakness(lack of powers) to defeat super powered enemies. He's more relatable, superman is just too perfect so it's hard to care about him.
My opinion is bias, Batman is the only DC character I like(that I can think of). Marvel ftw.

[fenrir1887]

Nobody said that. Superman's flaws are what make him a better hero than most think. Also, if you're referring to Luthor, the problem is that's not true either. Read Superman/Batman Public Enemies. Thanks to Batman, Superman thwarted Luthor's attempts to discredit him. Secondly, another case where Superman stood tall compared to Luthor was the Final Crisis.
He ended it and Batman supposedly lost his life, though the epilogue ended in a cliffhanger.

[Dudebro]

I'm not saying that superman loses to lex all the time. All superheros have to fall before they can rise up dramatically. That's the most basic comic storyline and it happens to him all the time, another reason he's so boring btw.
I'm just saying that superman isn't that interesting because he has these over the top super powers but his primary enemy is some guy with a rock. Batman is just more interesting.

Obviously that's my opinion but I think it's somewhat true for most people. Btw I'm not a comic person really. I've never bought comics, I've only read them second hand and even then I'm not a die hard fan.

[joz]

I'm with DB on this one. Batman is more complex of a character. He also has the best secret identity of them all. He's frickin Billionare Bruce Wayne.

[Dudebro]

The only thing I like about superman is how he has to wear a costume to blend in with normal people. I can't think of any other super heros who can claim that level of public exposure.

[fenrir1887]

DB, I hate to disagree. First off, the only reason I believe Superman is far better than that is because unlike Batman, he does not have a vendetta against crime. Secondly, Superman's worst failing is believing he can save everyone at any time. JLA: Pain of the Gods established that. Batman's own worst failings include not always trusting his allies in the Bat-Family as the group is usually called. Secondly, Luthor is not as over the top as you might believe. Mxyzptlk is far more over the top. Plus, if Luthor didn't have his rock, he's as completely helpless as any other human being.

[Dudebro]

I'll tell you right now there's no way anyone can convince me that Superman is cool. I just don't like him and I think he's a terrible superhero. I get that you like him a lot and I'm not trying to bash you for it. There's no point in going back and forth on this since it's all opinion.

[Kong]

I always thought Spider-Man was the lamest mainstream superhero.

[Dudebro]

Nah he's not as bad as the majority of DC characters. I think the appeal of Spiderman is how he was a normal nerdy kid and his powers were thrust upon him. Also he does add some humor to his fights so he's got that too. This video shows a good example I think.
YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.

[AK Bullet Storm]

Nah he's not as bad as the majority of DC characters. I think the appeal of Spiderman is how he was a normal nerdy kid and his powers were thrust upon him. Also he does add some humor to his fights so he's got that too. This video shows a good example I think.
YouTube- Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CylaEGlXR_0)


I agree, it has always been interesting to me how Peter Parker has to manage his everyday life as a growing teenager. Struggling with girls, villians, and super powers is quite the work load. I also love the humor he adds to the fights with his wisecrack antics. I hope we get to see more of that in the reboot film series.

[fenrir1887]

DB, the DC characters have their own appeal. I'm sorry, but I have been primarily a DC fan since I started reading comic books. The way Spider-Man is going now, the only Marvel products I will read these days are the X-Men and the Fantastic Four.

[xfighter1138]

I agree with Jozman but I'm not as optimistic about it. I'm worried that they'll try to focus on the teen drama thing to attract a young crowd and just ignore all the older fans who won't care for it.
Btw how about the rumors of Robert Pattinson taking over the role of Spiderman? Sure it's being denied by everyone but Hollywood is known for casting retardedly to capitalize on fame. Coming off the Twilight movies this might just be true in the end. If he plays spiderman there's an automatic fanbase from day 1. If this happens I doubt I'll watch anymore Spiderman moves.

There's even been rumors of Pattinson starring in the new Dune remake.

[Dudebro]

DB, the DC characters have their own appeal. I'm sorry, but I have been primarily a DC fan since I started reading comic books. The way Spider-Man is going now, the only Marvel products I will read these days are the X-Men and the Fantastic Four.
I'm really not trying to insult people for liking DC, I just think it's a dinosaur that's struggling to keep up with Marvel. I agree about Spiderman though. I like him when he's in other stuff but on his own I don't much like him.

Btw does DC have characters like this?
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h293/unyobroyo/Wizard_Cover_by_Dexstar71.jpg


There's even been rumors of Pattinson starring in the new Dune remake.
Now that might cause a nerd riot. Dune isn't as popular as LOTR but many people hold it in very high regard. IF he gets Dune I'd hope it's not as the star but that doesn't seem likely.

[xfighter1138]

I'm really not trying to insult people for liking DC, I just think it's a dinosaur that's struggling to keep up with Marvel. I agree about Spiderman though. I like him when he's in other stuff but on his own I don't much like him.

Btw does DC have characters like this?
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h293/unyobroyo/Wizard_Cover_by_Dexstar71.jpg





Yeah, a bloodthirsty hero that steals all the showtime in every single one of his movies.

I'm sure DC is really jealous that they don't have THIS

http://jjinbeat.com/Cap/StarSpangledSite/AntMan-Armor.jpg

[Dudebro]

Maybe Wolverine is so popular because he's an awesome character? He was created because they wanted to make a cool Canadian super hero. I assume he became popular because he's interesting and a complete badass. It only makes sense to showcase him when the majority of your fans love him right?


I have no idea who that character is. From the look of him I'd guess he's one of those characters created to get kids into comics, is he from a TV show?
That being said I'm sure DC is jealous of Marvel, but not for that guy. DC has some of the corniest characters ever created in comics. That's my opinion but I'm sure most people would agree with me.

[Tails]

Reminds me of something off of Batman Brave and the Bold.

[xfighter1138]

I have no idea who that character is. From the look of him I'd guess he's one of those characters created to get kids into comics, is he from a TV show?
That being said I'm sure DC is jealous of Marvel, but not for that guy. DC has some of the corniest characters ever created in comics. That's my opinion but I'm sure most people would agree with me.

That was Ant Man one of your "great" production.

Corniest characters? Some of Marvels movies have been really corny. Superman IV and Batman & Robin might be bad. But Daredevil and Hulk are just plain awful.

[Dudebro]

That was Ant Man one of your "great" production.Oh come on now are you getting defensive about this? I can find tons of Marvel characters that suck but they aren't mainstream like Superman or Wonderwoman. My point is DC only has one character that I can think of who isn't corny, Batman. Well, that's if you don't count the Adam West version. From my perspective DC is mainly old school corny characters whos names almost always end in man because the writers have no creativity.

Corniest characters? Some of Marvels movies have been really corny. Superman IV and Batman & Robin might be bad. But Daredevil and Hulk are just plain awful.I'm not going to debate which movies are more full of fail. When I talk about characters I mean the comic book versions. Movies and TV shows are well known for how they butcher the established storylines and characters. To me they don't count techincally, they're just fluff for casual fans.
That being said I think it's safe to say that Hulk and DareDevil are miles better than that steaming pile of a movie they called Superman recently. What other good DC movies come out recently? Oh yeah, Batman, their only good character:lol:

Either way you should lighten up. We're just talking about fictional characters here.

[AK Bullet Storm]

Maybe Wolverine is so popular because he's an awesome character? He was created because they wanted to make a cool Canadian super hero. I assume he became popular because he's interesting and a complete badass. It only makes sense to showcase him when the majority of your fans love him right?


I have no idea who that character is. From the look of him I'd guess he's one of those characters created to get kids into comics, is he from a TV show?
That being said I'm sure DC is jealous of Marvel, but not for that guy. DC has some of the corniest characters ever created in comics. That's my opinion but I'm sure most people would agree with me.

I would totally agree with that. Seriously, Superman has like every super-power imaginable which makes him far less interesting because he shouldn't ever be beaten, but oh wait he's allergic to a freaking green rock! Now that's not to say that all of them are bad, I happen to think that Batman and the villians he squares off against are some of the best bad guys out there. But seriously, Aqua-Man, really? You can't get worse than that!

[xfighter1138]

I would totally agree with that. Seriously, Superman has like every super-power imaginable which makes him far less interesting because he shouldn't ever be beaten, but oh wait he's allergic to a freaking green rock! Now that's not to say that all of them are bad, I happen to think that Batman and the villians he squares off against are some of the best bad guys out there. But seriously, Aqua-Man, really? You can't get worse than that!

Oh yes you can, Howard the Duck.

[AK Bullet Storm]

Oh yes you can, Howard the Duck.

Ok, so Howard the Duck is pretty bad, but remember that he is not one of the mainstream comics from the Marvel franchise. Aqua-Man and Superman are what DC comics really push out the door, Howard the Duck is not on Marvel's "A-List." Case in point, the ridiculous and corniest of Marvel comics heros and villians are probably on the bottom of the totem pole of importance, unlike DC comics where thats pretty much all they know and publish.

[fenrir1887]

Let me ask you this question. Why is Marvel taking so long to clean up a mess it should have cleaned ages ago? The whole simultaneous universe idea died with DC's Crisis on Infinite Earths. DC is working the whole Blackest Night storyline in ways Marvel never could. DC is not the slowest to change. Marvel is. This is what makes DC a fine company in its own right. Coupled with the fact Marvel just got bought up and DC didn't tells you who the sinking ship really was.

[AK Bullet Storm]

It wasn't like Marvel was going under or anything, Disney wouldn't have bought them if they didn't have anything going for them. It wasn't a cheap buy either 4.24 billion dollars is how much Disney paid to get Marvel. Plus here's a fact, " Marvel has since become the largest American comic-book publisher, surpassing its longtime competitor DC Comics (http://retrouprising.com/wiki/DC_Comics).." Marvel Comics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(While I'm sure someone will point out that my source of my quote comes from wikipedia and how information is sometimes faulty from there I'll also argue that on DC Comic's wiki page there is no where that says that they are the world's largest publisher of comic books. They're not denying that they've been beated by the better Marvel Comics. So this isn't a he said/she said arguement.)
Read it and weep.

[fenrir1887]

Surpassing? I don't think so. Marvel hasn't yet produced a miniseries on the order of Final Crisis. Secondly, if Marvel had surpassed DC, DC's not showing a decrease in readers. Normally, the competition between them would tell in the numbers of readers. Even if you are right, it's not by much. DC consolidated its characters in one universe so it's not going anywhere anytime soon.

[AK Bullet Storm]

I'm not sure what a miniseries has anything to do with this. pretty sure if all the characters are lame and cheesy than the series will fail too. marvel doesn't have to put all their eggs in one basket for a miniseries, they have a lot more going for them than super friends b.s.

[StarfoxFan2009]

Here's the problem with the statement AK Bullet Storm. Most of DC's characters couldn't be considered cheesy by any standards. one case in point is the Green Lantern. Name 1 marvel character who has the same power as GL.

[AK Bullet Storm]

Here's the problem with the statement AK Bullet Storm. Most of DC's characters couldn't be considered cheesy by any standards. one case in point is the Green Lantern. Name 1 marvel character who has the same power as GL.

you're correct, no marvel character has the same power as GL. that doesn't mean its a good thing though, i think GL is lame. he wears a little ring that gives him powers like forming a giant baseball bat to hit his opponents with? tell me that's not cheesy. surprised his ring wasn't one of the ones that help form Captain Planet.

[fenrir1887]

Okay, but who has the Spectre's exact powers? No one. Marvel may have Wolverine and DC doesn't have a character like him, but Marvel could never get away with creating characters similar to any of DC's characters. Copyright laws would be enforced for both sides.

[Dudebro]

How about Deadpool and Deathstroke? DC made there's first but they never tried to stop Marvel from making Deadpool. Kind of funny how Deadpool is arguably more popular even though DC had a huge head start.

Btw AK Bullet Storm is right, Green Latern is one of the corniest DC characters. In the future you might wanna find a better example.:lol:

[Tails]

Yeah Lanturn sucks, so does his chant.

[AK Bullet Storm]

How about Deadpool and Deathstroke? DC made there's first but they never tried to stop Marvel from making Deadpool. Kind of funny how Deadpool is arguably more popular even though DC had a huge head start.

Btw AK Bullet Storm is right, Green Latern is one of the corniest DC characters. In the future you might wanna find a better example.:lol:

Haha thanks DB, you totally read my mind! I was going to say the same thing about Deadpool/Deathstroke.

[Dudebro]

I have a friend who's obsessed with GL. He bought a GL ring online for like 200$(or so he said). Either way he used to wear it everywhere, including work. I loled at him often.

[Demon-Mask]

I have a friend who's obsessed with GL. He bought a GL ring online for like 200$(or so he said). Either way he used to wear it everywhere, including work. I loled at him often.
It really is fun to laugh at these people, isn't it? Some people at school will randomly cosplay with no event going on, it's ridiculous.

[Dudebro]

Well I laughed at him but like I said he's my friend so I was nice about it. If I saw people cosplaying I'd probably just stop and stare.

[Demon-Mask]

Nah, at least one of them was my friend, I chuckled a little bit, but made no rude remarks, which for me is pretty strange when people do things that look stupid.

[fenrir1887]

Dude, from here on out, I have one name for you that is cheesier than GL and he's supposed to be that way: Mxyzptlk. Try pronouncing that. Secondly, if you hadn't noticed, the Green Lantern may appear to be corny, but you try fighting the legions of undead Black Lanterns and survive. Corny or not GL takes his job seriously, something only Deathstroke shares. Finally, if you hadn't already noticed, DC does not have a character similar to Deadpool. This is why Marvel could create him.

[Tails]

Who wants to fight cornier super villians?

[Dudebro]

Finally, if you hadn't already noticed, DC does not have a character similar to . This is why Marvel could create him.
Maybe you're in denial but the rest of the world can see the obvious similarities between Deathstroke and Deadpool(There names are Slade Wilson and Wade Wilson btw). Hell they even had a cross over encounter because of that comparison. Yes they're not 100% the same but it's close enough.

I can tell you care about this a lot more than I do. You may not see it but DC is seen as old school and corny by a lot of people. We won't agree on this so it's pointless to go back and forth. I'm glad you enjoy it though.

[fenrir1887]

No similarity at all, DB. First off, Deathstroke takes his job seriously, Deadpool does not. Deathstroke fights with 90% brain capacity at all times making him far more dangerous than Deadpool. Plus, Deathstroke is blind in one eye, hence his mask. Deadpool has a healing factor. Plus looking back at Deadpool's history, Wade Wilson is just an alias! Even Deadpool doesn't know what his real name is. The only reason it's seen as corny and old school is because it's older. Yes, I do care because I read both and it's obvious to me both companies have different strengths. Marvel's biggest one is the kids it seeks out. Aside from Elektra, Marvel's target audience is the younger readers. DC has not suffered loss of readership, so there are still people who prefer DC to Marvel.

[Demon-Mask]

Plus, Deathstroke is blind in one eye, hence his mask.
And DereDevil is full on blind, yet is a highly effective fighter.

Either way, this debate has gotten too serious.

[Dudebro]

No similarity at all, DB.
Yeah none at all! I guess that's why Deathstrokes wiki article has this in it-
Another Marvel Comics character having many similarities to Deathstroke is Deadpool (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadpool). Both have similar costumes, professions, rhyming names (Deathstroke is Slade Wilson while Deadpool is Wade Wilson), and similar code names (Death=Dead, you do a "stroke" in a "pool"). However, the two have completely different personalities with Deathstroke being a brilliant cutthroat mercenary whereas Deadpool is a sarcastic, possibly insane "merc with a mouth" (but they still have their jobs in common).

Also this entry on the Marvel Wikia(I bet the DC one has a similar entry)-

Deadpool clearly bares a lot of unmistakable similarities to Deathstroke (http://www.dcdatabaseproject.com/wiki/index.php/Slade_Wilson_%28New_Earth%29); Deadpool commonly uses the name "Wade Wilson", similar to "Slade Wilson", Deathstroke from the antimatter universe appears and has similar characteristics related to Deadpool (such as Deadpool's "merc with a mouth" wisecracks, a black spot on his mask over his eye somewhat resembling Deadpool's, the two wear nearly identical costumes, although they have completely opposite attitudes. While this character didn't seem to be as skilled at fighting as Deathstroke, his healing factor seemed far more effective, with Slade becoming annoyed at how hard he was to kill). This character tries to introduce his name multiple times but is always interrupted. The most he was able to get out was "Dea-". It could be implied Deadpool is the Marvel counterpart of Deathstroke, who was created 11 years earlier. Marvel seemingly acknowledged this in the Cable/Deadpool series, where Deadpool sometimes answers a letters column. Deadpool claimed that he didn't want to be in a Marvel/DC crossover, because people might mistake him for a certain DC character. The two of them actually met during a Mr. Mxyzptlk-influenced crossover event, in which the two of them fought with conflicting contracts to both kill and save Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne.

So yeah I guess the similarity is pretty well accepted.

Either way, this debate has gotten too serious. .
You are correct sir.

[fenrir1887]

Wikipedia isn't always right. My sources are usually from the company websites themselves. Marvel disavows any similarities at all.

[Tails]

Where's your proof anyways? You're only typing stuff.

[fenrir1887]

Hang on. I'm getting to it.

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Okay, so I was wrong on the name bit. But it says here he is fluent in multiple languages, uses a teleportation device to get out of danger, and most times uses a combination of guns and blades doing his missions. Unlike Deathstroke, Deadpool will occasionally work with others. Deathstroke operates alone primarily. Deadpool has no one favorite target. Deathstroke makes it his mission to destroy the Teen Titans. Plus Deadpool has an immunity to most poisons. DareDevil can not fight Deathstroke and hope to win without aid. Why do you think Deathstroke is so dangerous to tackle alone.

[Tails]

and the proof? At least DB posted proof. =/

[fenrir1887]

That was all from Marvel's website. I hate trying to post proof to someone and expect them not to go looking themselves. But, I'll humor you.

[Tails]

I don't care about it either way I just like to do that~

[fenrir1887]

I hate being wrong most of the time, but this doesn't really count for hating it. BUT, similar or not the similarities end there. Besides, I still think Deathstroke would do what no man can and that is outfight Deadpool. Besides, what differentiates the characters is their attitudes anyway you look at it. So, I'm conceding at this point, but not on the other.

[Dudebro]

Fenrir you're splitting hairs about this. The point I'm trying to make is the majority of comic book fans realize that Deadpool is very similar to Deathstroke. Similar does not mean exactly the same. Also you shouldn't be fighting this, it helps your case since I'm saying Marvel basically copied a DC character.

I linked Wikipedia because it's a well known resource, it's more accurate then you may think. I also link the Marvel Wiki, that is probably the most accurate because it's updated and maintained by super comic book nerds. If someone tried to post inaccurate info it would be noticed and fixed.

Go browse the site yourself and see if it stands up to your scrutiny. I'm willing to bet you won't find any misinformation.
Marvel Comics Database (http://marvel.wikia.com/Main_Page)

Same goes for the DC one. I never check it so I can't verify it with experience but I'm willing to bet it's just as good.
DC Comics Database (http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page)

Marvel disavows any similarities at all.This isn't true, do you have a source for it?

[fenrir1887]

I just admitted defeat, dude. Don't rub my nose in it. Besides, you know full well Marvel did not copy or else DC would have had them for lunch in court over copyright.

[DrunkN]

It's hard to imagine Dudebro rubbing someone's nose in something...

Besides Tenser's.

[fenrir1887]

In this case, he's doing it to me. However, in this case I need a dose of reality now and then.

[Tails]

Umm, I just think you're overreacting.

[fenrir1887]

Nah, I say otherwise. When it gets that serious, a good sharp response like that snaps me back to reality. Besides, I'm sitting here thinking how best to respond to the next thing that comes up without being mislead myself.

[Tails]

You're overreacting about DB. He isn't doing anything wrong, he may JOKE with people but he don't go the length you're saying.

[fenrir1887]

I was kidding about it. I'm trying to find some way to do it, but as usual my nerdspeak interferes.

[Tails]

O_o kidding? That does not look like kidding.

[fenrir1887]

Hard for me to kid sometimes, so I'll put it like this, if I offended anyone, I'm sorry. Now maybe I can find something else to say without sounding like a complete moron.

[Tails]

You can always do the Fred Flintstone.\

YouTube - Fred and Wilma do the duck walk dance

[fenrir1887]

I don't exactly watch it anymore, not because I don't like it. I just don't have cable right now. But that is the one exception to not looking like a moron I would make.

[Tails]

Can always stream it~

[fenrir1887]

Like I said, I can make an exception. The other thing would be if I could pull the old gag from some of the older Bugs Bunny cartoons where the opponent's head turns into a donkey's when he gets suckered.

[Tails]

Wabbit season Duck season was best.

[fenrir1887]

I agree. Especially with that Elmer Season poster in one of those and I know saw one.

[CrispyChicken]

I finally saw this movie on DVD today. I wasn't totally impressed to be honest. I don't know why, I just didn't like it that much. The actor (Andrew Garfield?) who played Spiderman did an ok job. I didn't think it was the best, but it was probably better than McGuire's. It was still a pretty good movie, just seemed unrefined and rushed a little to me. The Lizard wasn't as cool as I thought he was going to be. Green Goblin was better imo. I thought he would be Bane-like but Bane was a lot better. I'd still give it like a 6/10 though. I probably won't be watching it again though.