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Old 03-15-2010, 11:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I like this game and felt it needed it's own topic.

I'm trying to get the hang of this, but directing AI is a nightmare. If I didn't have save states I would have to do this game over so many times. Simply getting past the first floor can be a total nightmare(especially after the lights go out).

It's also annoying to think that if you lose one particular person that you're going to get a messy ending.

This game also kind of gives me the creeps...
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Old 03-15-2010, 11:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I can't understand it, it's too hard
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Classic for me, I've had this since I was 5 or something, and I dind't have saves until I joined here. You just have to learn each character, or whatever ones you want. I find it easiest with Luke the crewman. I think his quickest route can take 3 and a half minutes if the ship tips in your favour. You see, this one part in the game screws me over constantly. The part at 2:20 and past in my video. You have to wait for the ship to turn over a bit so you can climb up the pipes a bit. There is also a part where fire falls down all over the place in the boiler room that is crazily annoying because you could keep proceeding and get a better time but risk getting knocked out by the falling fire balls. These are big issues when trying to do it as fast as possible. You can catch all the other survivors with your hand by pressing a certain button when they're about to fall (can't remember which button it is)...


Watch from like 2:20 - 2:50 to see the part I'm talking about... Normally it takes longer to flip, and sometimes flips back while you're climbing.

Let me ask you Dn, have you ever not made it out within the hour time limit? I mean, not on purpose?

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It really isn't, just figure out the correct route, and watch my video, all of the correct routes lead to the same general area anyways.

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@DN: There is several, several endings. I agree, the one where you get shot is just a tick-off-worthy moment, but if you save like six people, that guy won't shoot you.
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@DN: There is several, several endings. I agree, the one where you get shot is just a tick-off-worthy moment, but if you save like six people, that guy won't shoot you.
Oh I know that. If you don't bring him but you have people with you anyways, the people don't end up escaping the boiler room in the ending, it's pretty depressing.

From what I gather, every character has their own special friend person,(Redwin has 3 ) so if you lose that person the ending sucks.

I'm trying to work on the old doctor now. I have trouble finding his wife though. I also can't find the woman on the upside-down bottom floor's daughter.
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Yeah, you have to save a particular person or a few to get good endings. My brother has gotten Redwins good ending.
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Didn't play as much today, being preoccupied.

I had a climactic moment in the game though, it was like something out of a movie.

\..........\
.\..........\
..\..........\
...\..........\
....\X........\
Y__.......___\
.......\...........\

So there we were!

Me and a crew of seven people were hanging on to the wall at point X. We needed to get to point Y. So I instructed the people to drop down and climb up the ledge. After me and two other people had made it to point Y the ship started to shake again, so I knew if the ship turned clock-wise the other five were going to fall to their death. I was very nervous and couldn't do anything but hope that they'd make it before the ship turned, and three more people made it to the platform safely. But right then as the seventh crew member, the engineer who had previously broken his leg jumped down, the boat had turned, the hallway now a deep, deep abyss. I watched in shock as the man started to plummet to what would surely be his demise.

But just then, right as he started to now almost touch me, I learned something. Something very valuable. As he now fell away from me, I threw out my arm, with the "Z" key! And hurrah for "Z", for I grabbed him firmly by the hand, saving his precious life. It was a moment of glory, of triumph over the evil, antagonizing, and only enemy in this video game; gravity. I kicked ass.


And then I saw my wife fall down....whoops... Well I'll keep better track in the future.

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I also thought of a good strategy for the scoring. It should be by best time but you have to have a minimum of 25 points.

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Very entertaining DN now I might actually try this game. Btw it kind of sounds like Lemmings, is it similar?
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Who were you using, unlike popular opinion, Capris is not married to that girl, it's his sister. i was mistaken for years too
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Cam supports incest?
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It's not incest, it's wincest.
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Brotherly love of a sexual nature between Dean & Sam Winchester of the tv show Supernatural.

^ that?

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Old 03-17-2010, 05:19 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Who were you using, unlike popular opinion, Capris is not married to that girl, it's his sister. i was mistaken for years too
Actually, I was using Jeffery. The last part was a joke, but I found it humorous.

Grabbing people and hoisting them up really helps in this game. Since the AI is incredibly stupid,(I think it's only programed for the boiler room, they just figured everything else would "solve itself") they often try to make jumps that will kill them or they try to bypass solid objects. Pulling them up can make everything move so much faster, since they only have to get close, and you can usually do it continuously.(obviously if they all fall at once their toast, but if they go one by one it speeds things up)

And doesn't it say right off the bat that the girl is Capris's sister?

And to Dudebro, it is somewhat like lemmings, since your AI is nearly mindless, but they can move to where ever you stand and make a gesture. They seem to move a little unpredictably when they try to climb past upside-down stair cases or climb them when the ship is turned.

They can preform easy vertical jumps so long as the object is straight above them and not tilted, and they also are good at making straight-leaps, such as jumping over a small gap. Unfortunately, there is a little math when they have to jump to something that's not directly up or down. Let me make a text-example.

|................|
|................|
|_Z.........x.|
|......Y.......|
|................|

Let's pretend that this is actually a very long and narrow room. It is fairly cramped.

A crew member represents X. I have just jumped to point Y, and have signaled for them to come to me. So the crew member makes a leap as far as they can go, and ends up at the ledge of point Z.

|................|
|................|
|_Zx......._..|
|......Y........|
|................|

So now X is hanging on to the ledge of point Z, and they are about to do something very, very stupid.

( Click to show/hide )
|................|
|................|
|_Z............|
|......Y........|
|....x...........|


Yes, they will actually let go of the ledge in attempt to fall to the right, trying to land on platform Y. This is an impossible feat that they will always kill themselves in attempt to do, even if they have just watched another person try....How cunning...
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@DN in the AI's defense, even in real life, if some bad ass was trying to save a bunch of regular people on a sinking ship there would be dead bodies and face palms all over the place.
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This is very true, there are many situations in the game where an AI can die due to the player's crap decision or simply by an unlucky ship rotation, but there are many simplistic things such as jumping on a slightly curved platform that seem to perplex the AI. I know it is not easy to program AI to react to twelve variations of the same situations but still, it would do with another shot.

Fortunately, there are some dangers the AI is immune to because programming it to avoid such hazards while the ship is turned would be near impossible. AI's are completely flame retardant and will not be knocked out by falling debris such as wooden chairs. And to be honest, I'm not sure if AI can swim in flooded areas but I assume they can.

It also helps to leave the AI behind and go into a door and call to you. For some reason, they're able to maneuver through situations they would normally get stuck in.
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Fun fact, if you are in a horizontal in the ship, and there is water near the bottom, You can fall far enough to die. You will see your guy die and the screen will fade like you had actually died, but in reality, once you land in the water and there is no hit against you. I always do it for fun, lol. If you fall too far though and the screen fades completely, you will still die.
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I just beat the game as Jeffery, I was thinking of you-tubing it but during the ending the AI once again sticks a knife it my side. While the sequence plays, the AI is acting really glitchy. You can't see most of the people going by because most of them go at once, and one guy seems to be just switch between walking and not walking rapidly, making him look very awkward. But the scene I got was nice, very romantic.
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Brotherly love of a sexual nature between Dean & Sam Winchester of the tv show Supernatural.

^ that?
If the producers of Supernatural did that, I would be mad.
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This game makes me lose sleep at night, damn you Townsend!!
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Old 03-19-2010, 07:54 PM   #20 (permalink)
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This game makes me lose sleep at night.
That's just sad.
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Old 03-19-2010, 09:54 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Oh my God. I just hopped onto a computer and played the game with sound.

WOW. The whole reason I loved this game was because it was so twisted and gave me paranoia. Now it's...just awful. The main music sounds alright, but it doesn't really give it the atmosphere I had envisioned before. I suppose this was a replacement to Clock Tower, another game that I used to give me sick thrills, but this one didn't make me think serial killers would come at me.

The music makes this game sound like it should be renamed to: "Let's get off the boat! "


Cam, you ever play the game without sound? Trust me, it's a whole nother experience.(so long as you don't have that damn song in your head)
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I like the song. I've heard it enough anyways, it's fine. I'm sure I have if it was late at night.
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Ugh. It's not the same game anymore... I can't do this.
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Lame, but yeah, actually. I had it on my Laptop that had no sound for a good time, played it on there a bit when the snes was taken. It was worse without the sound.
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Old 03-19-2010, 11:20 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Without sound, it's very depressing and unsettling.

If you put music to just plain old walking around in Clock Tower, you really lose that kind of eerie- "you're on your own feeling".

Before the sound, this game was like some kind of awesome cross between Prince of Persia, Lemmings, and Clock Tower. With the music, it pains me to say we've added Lester the Unlikely into the mix.

---------- Post added at 03:20 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:19 AM ----------

I guess my paranoia is gone.
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