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Old 02-01-2012, 11:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Game Emulation

Just wondering if anyone else has noticed glaring differences between the games emulated on here vs how they actually play on a console? I noticed some games that play on MAME versus here play much much more difficult.
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yeah if I own the game I wont play it on here unless I'm out of town or not around my snes or nes.
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Game Emulation

Hey d3scride welcome to RU. Think I've seen you before somewhere

What specific MAME games are you referring to?
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Game Emulation

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Hey d3scride welcome to RU. Think I've seen you before somewhere

What specific MAME games are you referring to?
TG I imagine

Lasso for example. The arcade version emulated on MAME is significantly different (and tougher)
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I want to correct myself I wouldn't say glaring and there's a good chance that a good part of it is because the different controllers I use.
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:46 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Game Emulation

Are you comparing to how the games are when they are ported to a console?
Usually the arcade versions are much much harder than their console counterparts.
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Game Emulation

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Are you comparing to how the games are when they are ported to a console?
Usually the arcade versions are much much harder than their console counterparts.
Sorry my original post wasn't really clear.

Not so much for console, but at least some of the arcade ports to MAME, do not play the same on the emulator used here. Not a big deal, just thought I'd mention it.
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Old 02-02-2012, 12:08 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Maybe the dip switches are set differently?
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Old 02-02-2012, 12:11 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Game Emulation

True in some cases but for the most part the differences are probably caused by one of the following

Different dip switch settings than you are used to - You can change them in Full Mode by pressing Tab.
Keyboard or game pad instead of real joysticks or other original controls.
Bad memory or nostalgia.
Different version, some arcade games were re-released with updates or had alternate versions released in different regions.
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Old 02-02-2012, 12:22 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Well some of those differences are actual changes to the game by the developers, even if they call them 'arcade perfect' ports.
For example, Parodius Da was ported to the Playstation with big changes to the difficulty system that makes it much easier.

See here you have the final stage on the PS version:

And the same stage on the arcade version in MAME (start at 10:45):


There may also be differences within arcade boards themselves, because the games are configurable via DIP switches to change the settings, like difficulty and lives.

Another difference is that the program version you have played is different than the one on the site. Some games go went through many program revisions in the arcade.

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Old 02-02-2012, 12:40 AM   #11 (permalink)
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AFAIK the dips are the same. I'm comparing two different arcade emulators: This one and WolfMAME106
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WolfMame v106 is ancient, dated May 15 2006, so the emulation (and as a result the gameplay) is probably a lot different than the official MAME build which is updated constantly.
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Old 02-02-2012, 04:24 AM   #13 (permalink)
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WolfMame v106 is ancient, dated May 15 2006, so the emulation (and as a result the gameplay) is probably a lot different than the official MAME build which is updated constantly.
This is most likely the answer.
WolfMAME 0.106 is the only MAME version accepted by TG at this time and theres not really any need/demand to update it. (pretty sure new versions are all command line anyway, which is a pain in the a$$)
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Old 02-02-2012, 10:49 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I use a gui for WolfMAME 0.140 so for at least up to that version, you don't have to know command line. But ya, a lot of these games play a little different in the newer versions of MAME than they do in 0.106. And there are some games that just flat out dont' work in 0.106 that have been fixed in the newer versions MAME and can now be played.
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