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Old 01-27-2014, 05:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Arcade game High Score on RU are much hard to get than console

I have known for some time that Arcade games are more competitive, but I had no idea how hard it was to get almost ANY arcade game high score. When I tool around the classic gaming systems it's not too hard to find a game or two where I can put up a high score within a few tries. On almost any arcade game and it seems like it would take weeks to get that high score. The funny thing is I am not just talking about the common games. I am talking about the super obscure games that no one has ever heard of before. Most of those games are tough as nails to get a super high score.

So I was wondering if anyone else has noticed this as well? And why do people think that is happening?
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Old 01-27-2014, 05:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Arcade game High Score on RU are much hard to get than console

Edit: I missunderstood your point. New answer:

Perhaps it's related to the spectacle of putting up a big score live in front of the honies?

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Old 01-27-2014, 05:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Arcade game High Score on RU are much hard to get than console

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I have known for some time that Arcade games are more competitive, but I had no idea how hard it was to get almost ANY arcade game high score. When I tool around the classic gaming systems it's not too hard to find a game or two where I can put up a high score within a few tries. On almost any arcade game and it seems like it would take weeks to get that high score. The funny thing is I am not just talking about the common games. I am talking about the super obscure games that no one has ever heard of before. Most of those games are tough as nails to get a super high score.

So I was wondering if anyone else has noticed this as well? And why do people think that is happening?
Hi George. I am not entirely sure i am going to answer this correctly but i will do it in my best interpretation of what i believe you are asking.

The most logical cause is the caliber of players on this site. It's still quite a small collection of people. You have some very skilled people who may excel in a particular game but the overall talent pool is lacking.

The other are people probably aren't putting their all because, frankly, what's the point? This is not the worlds best site where you have 2 people battling for "WR" on TGs. This certainly is not Arcadia which makes TG look like a 9th grader getting poo'd on by a 4th grader.

With that being said, no competition means lax results.

But in all honestly, probably what steven said. The ladies really get all hot and bothered by men putting it up hours of effort to get virtual numbers to move.
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Old 01-27-2014, 06:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Arcade game High Score on RU are much hard to get than console

No I am talking about Retro Uprising. The Arcade game scores on Retro Uprising are much harder to beat than the console scores on Retro Uprising. The fact is there are a ton of coin op games on this site, but almost all of them are hard to beat. That's not true on the console side. So I was wondering why that is? Why are the Arcade scores on Retro Uprising so hard to beat. I am not talking about Twin Galaxies scores here.
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Old 01-27-2014, 07:02 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Arcade game High Score on RU are much hard to get than console

There's less of them, they're more 'prestigious,' most people who get into breaking scores do so through Twin Galaxies/King of Kong, etc. Take your pick.
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Old 01-27-2014, 07:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Arcade game High Score on RU are much hard to get than console

I would guess that the crowd who is into Arcade games is also more competitive. People who are strictly console gamers tend to be more about fun, in other words more casual.
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Old 01-27-2014, 08:00 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Arcade game High Score on RU are much hard to get than console

I think because arcade games were originally designed to be played on a single quarter they are better suited for competition.

Coin-op games are typically designed to game over the average player in under 2 minutes. Console games are probably closer to 30 minutes.
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Old 01-27-2014, 08:45 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Arcade game High Score on RU are much hard to get than console

George, I have been on RU for five days now and I love the emulation job that they made the front end(mostly) seemless..I have 120+ pcbs..and 8 cabinets in my house, and it's still more convienent/and challenging to work on the coin-op classics here, what with forgotten,fly,jason and a few others..the arcade scores are "world-worthy)..and hopefully wolf will get these to be >mame WR> verified...being a competitive arcade specifi gamer,I wasn't too into the "mame route" until I realised that a few pcbs cost 300$ or more...and yet games I've heard about like dark towers and frisky tom are here as well. (I have the only known verified copy of trick trap and battlantis in pcb form...)..when wolf gets the other three bubble bobble series and the four mr. driller series online here in mame...(I can "work on my "arcade scores" playing mame at work....), about 70 of the pcbs that I own are here and score-competible(is that a word)...I like getting scores..but I have fun doing it as well. sid seattle
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I would guess that the crowd who is into Arcade games is also more competitive. People who are strictly console gamers tend to be more about fun, in other words more casual.

Sadly I think you're mostly right about the arcade crowd... My favourite games are mostly coin-ops from the early 80s and a lot of the focus in the scene seems to be on the high score rather than the pure pleasure of the gaming... I've been playing Ms Pacman for years and I don't think I'll ever break 300000 But I do love the game nonetheless

Also, Dudebro - not sure if the console gang are necessarily more casual... I seem to recall more than one occasion when Battle Mode in Super Mario Kart on the SNES ended up in real-life battles - with more than red shells and mushrooms being hurled across the room...
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I would guess that the crowd who is into Arcade games is also more competitive. People who are strictly console gamers tend to be more about fun, in other words more casual.
I agree. Most of the console games weren't really about score anyway. It was about how far into the game you could get. At least in my eyes.
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Old 01-28-2014, 07:45 PM   #11 (permalink)
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No I am talking about Retro Uprising. The Arcade game scores on Retro Uprising are much harder to beat than the console scores on Retro Uprising. The fact is there are a ton of coin op games on this site, but almost all of them are hard to beat. That's not true on the console side. So I was wondering why that is? Why are the Arcade scores on Retro Uprising so hard to beat. I am not talking about Twin Galaxies scores here.
George - I don't think this would be any different here or anywhere else or on any hardware version. As others have mentioned, in general arcade games were designed to be harder. Although, a common misconception is that they are quarter munchers. As with any game there are patterns. Most likely the average person would become frustrated by this and move onto the next game.

With most console ports the developers usually fixed bugs or hard area's or simply not enough processing power/memory to mimic an original arcade version. Not always the case as there are some crazy-bonkers ports for other systems that were a little unfair.
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Sadly I think you're mostly right about the arcade crowd... My favourite games are mostly coin-ops from the early 80s and a lot of the focus in the scene seems to be on the high score rather than the pure pleasure of the gaming... I've been playing Ms Pacman for years and I don't think I'll ever break 300000 But I do love the game nonetheless

Also, Dudebro - not sure if the console gang are necessarily more casual... I seem to recall more than one occasion when Battle Mode in Super Mario Kart on the SNES ended up in real-life battles - with more than red shells and mushrooms being hurled across the room...
It's nothing to be sad about, some people just enjoy their games in a different way. I used to go to the local arcade all the time but I was just never into the competitive side of it. I did have one notable exception though when I ran a train on 14-15 strangers in Virtual Fighter 2. I had a small crowd watching and people were cheering me on. It's funny though, I don't remember losing.
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Scores above about 180-200K on regular speed Ms Pac require indepth knowledge of the ghost AI and knowing how to group. That's about where you hit the slow boards where Ms Pac slows down but the ghosts don't. (board 21, same as the 9th key on Pac-Man, but since Pac-Man is patternable, it's not as big a deal as long as you can run patterns reliably )
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