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Old 04-27-2014, 10:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What should be the last life?

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x1 or x0?
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Old 04-27-2014, 10:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: What should be the last life?

Hmm this is a hard one. I'd probably go with x0 because 0 means you have no lives yet while x1 can be interpreted as you have 1 life left meaning that after you die this time you will have your last life after your next death.
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Re: What should be the last life?

Great topic
Ive always been annoyed with the x1.
Should be 0 a the counters are usually how many lives you have in reserve, ie not counting your current one.
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Old 04-27-2014, 11:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Speaking of Super Mario World I got the game for the WiiU Virtual Console off Club Nintendo. Game is still a ton of fun 20+ years later. I did notice though that you get game over at the x1 last night and I took note of it. Funny that you posted this topic the day after.
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Re: What should be the last life?

0

Because the numbers should indicate extra lives, not total lives.
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Re: What should be the last life?

x-0.
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Old 04-28-2014, 12:29 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: What should be the last life?

x1

It's a count of all lives, not lives remaining.
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Old 04-28-2014, 12:55 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: What should be the last life?

Definitely x0 for me because then there's no question there's no chances
left. With the x1, you can never be sure if the game is on either system of
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I'd prefer 0x, but agree with Tenser.
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Old 04-28-2014, 11:14 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: What should be the last life?

Back when arcades were first invented, the games didn't have a counter but a picture of how many ships you had left. i.e. Space Invaders had pictures of the actual bases on the bottom of the screen indicating how many lives you had left. When you started, you had one base in play and two in reserve so a picture of two bases was at the bottom when you started. When you die, one of the bases from reserve was put into play so when you were on your last life, there were no more pictures of bases at the bottom of the screen. So, I'm sure somewhere along the line someone may have changed the way you count extra men in video games but for the originals, the count of ships/men shown is for those in reserve. It does not count the ship/man currently in play.

For most games the counter is for men/ships in reserve, not total.
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Re: What should be the last life?

x-0 because that's how many lives you have remaining when you're on the last life and it gives a much better sense of finality
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I'm ok with either but I think I prefer 1. Not sure why, maybe I just played a lot of games that used that method.
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Re: What should be the last life?

To me I see it like this

1x1=1 life left
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Re: What should be the last life?

0 should mean you are on your last man. It is always clear your status in this case.
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Without knowing you'd always be right to assume if there is 1x life left the next time you die is game over.

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When there are no Pac-men or Mr Dos at the bottom left, you're on the last one.

(And in all probability, a ghost or an Alpha-monster are about to chomp you.)

If there was one Pac or Mr Do at the bottom left, then I died, and the game was over... something would get broken
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When there are no Pac-men or Mr Dos at the bottom left, you're on the last one.

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If there was one Pac or Mr Do at the bottom left, then I died, and the game was over... something would get broken
Atari did it differently between Asteroids and Deluxe Asteroids. On Asteroids, the lineup of ships in reserve includes the current one, so if it shows 3, you have 3 lives. On Deluxe, they switched it to how most other games work, if there's 3 up there, you have 4 (3 lives plus the current one you're playing)
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Back when arcades were first invented, the games didn't have a counter but a picture of how many ships you had left. i.e. Space Invaders had pictures of the actual bases on the bottom of the screen indicating how many lives you had left. When you started, you had one base in play and two in reserve so a picture of two bases was at the bottom when you started. When you die, one of the bases from reserve was put into play so when you were on your last life, there were no more pictures of bases at the bottom of the screen. So, I'm sure somewhere along the line someone may have changed the way you count extra men in video games but for the originals, the count of ships/men shown is for those in reserve. It does not count the ship/man currently in play.

For most games the counter is for men/ships in reserve, not total.
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0 should mean you are on your last man. It is always clear your status in this case.
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When there are no Pac-men or Mr Dos at the bottom left, you're on the last one.

(And in all probability, a ghost or an Alpha-monster are about to chomp you.)

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Atari did it differently between Asteroids and Deluxe Asteroids. On Asteroids, the lineup of ships in reserve includes the current one, so if it shows 3, you have 3 lives. On Deluxe, they switched it to how most other games work, if there's 3 up there, you have 4 (3 lives plus the current one you're playing)
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Great topic
Ive always been annoyed with the x1.
Should be 0 a the counters are usually how many lives you have in reserve, ie not counting your current one.
It is always interesting to me how older 80s arcade players use deluxe terminology such as "bases", "extra man", and "in reserve" whereas most players after that era use the word "lives" exclusively .
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I'm old as dirt and we always said extra life where I played games.
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Men or lives have always been inter-changeable for me. Ships/boats/cars ect.. didn't matter.
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For some reason saying "men" or "guys" makes me cringe in the same way as someone saying "toon" about their MMO/rpg character.
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You win an extra man? An extra life? An extra guy?

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"Mom! hold on, I'm on my last man."

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You're right. "Mum! I'm on my last missile launching base" just doesn't cut it.
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Kinda related, my parents used to hate hearing about us needing to find a checkpoint before we could turn it off. It got to the point where they figured out that we were lying half the time. I think we would say "gotta save it" though, checkpoint is a more recent thing. Anyone else?
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