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Old 02-26-2012, 06:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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KOTOR supposed to run bad on 360?

Title was supposed to have a question mark at the end, because I'm asking. Just to let you know

Started Playing Knights of the Old Republic (KOTOR), since I had not really understood it as a kid. Enjoying it a great deal this time around despite some minor issues. Noticed some frames dropping consistently after the first couple of hours. Sometimes, but rarely I might add, the game speeds up severely for a moment. It hasn't really hindered my gameplay, so maybe I should just ignore it? To my amazement, the disc is dang near spotless after all these years (I think I had it repaired for my brother some years back). It's stuttering quite a bit I find.

I've been ill, so I've played the game 5 hours straight now on my 360 (it is an original xbox game for those that don't know). Only recently do I remember having some other customer at gamestop telling me the game doesn't work well on 360 now. So I'm kind of kicking myself now, I'm 5 hours in, and I had been told before that it doesn't work well on 360. However, if I google it, most comments say the first KOTOR runs fine on 360, while the second is the bad one. Any input on this issue could help. I can play the way it is, but I'm concerned I'm going to run into some sort of deadzone 20 hours in where the game just can't run... So that's my biggest concern.

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Re: KOTOR supposed to run bad on 360?

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As for the actual topic, I don't know as I've never played it
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Old 02-26-2012, 07:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: KOTOR supposed to run bad on 360?

(Darn tails linking me to stuff on a site I barely go on >_>)

I haven't played kotor personally on a xbox or 360. Only played it on PC, but I may know what could be causing the issue.

If your using the old xbox 360 model these overheat quite easily and can cause lag and fps drops, if you aren't taking good care of it and dust is getting inside this can cause it to warm up faster. (This was a big issue with my old model, before it finally rrod on me. Upgraded and haven't had any slow down issues.)

To my knowledge just because the 360 is backwards compatible doesn't mean all the games are going to play as well as they did originally. (Good example is trying to play ps1 games on a ps3 quality is terrible for most of them.)

Have you tried any other xbox games on your 360 that are ''massive'' like kotor?

I'd suggest if you have a computer that can run it, grab it for $10 off of steam. I'd highly suggest if your going to play KOTOR 2 at some point, find a copy of it (not currently on steam last time I checked) update it and then download the restoration project that fixes the major bugs that came with the game on release.

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Re: KOTOR supposed to run bad on 360?

ill have to play it on my 360, but from what i remember the framerate drop is present on the original xbox aswell
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:15 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: KOTOR supposed to run bad on 360?

Thanks guys. Also, Oasis? the same Oasis that used to be here?

Now I've noticed all sound effects going away while I was in the Taris sewers, sound effects being gunfire/swords/anything character enemy related unless its talking scenes.

I have KOTOR II as well, tempted to give it a go on my Xbox original, though steam may be an option. As it stands, 5+ hours in KOTOR I... I don't want to restart haha.
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Cam, oasisX is not the same as oasis from before. oasisX is a close friend of mine.
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Old 02-26-2012, 09:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: KOTOR supposed to run bad on 360?

ok, well thanks to all 3 of you. Any more input is appreciated.

@Katz, if you can play the game, and see, then that would be great! From what I saw today the first bit on the endar spire ran fine. It's the first cutscene after that onwards that was buggy.
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Re: KOTOR supposed to run bad on 360?

It's running on emulation, that's why it's not ideal. Not that hard to figure out really it's pretty clear with a quick search. It has nothing to do with your xbox 360 besides not being compatible.


Also the 360 is not backwards compatible, each game had to have emulation made for it, that's why the list is so short.

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Re: KOTOR supposed to run bad on 360?

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(Darn tails linking me to stuff on a site I barely go on >_>)

I'd suggest if you have a computer that can run it, grab it for $10 off of steam. I'd highly suggest if your going to play KOTOR 2 at some point, find a copy of it (not currently on steam last time I checked) update it and then download the restoration project that fixes the major bugs that came with the game on release.
Don't buy it for $10. Wait until it goes on sale, which it does fairly frequently. I got it off steam last year for $2.75.

If my dinosaur of a computer can run it, anything remotely new will have no problem.
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Re: KOTOR supposed to run bad on 360?

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Yeah, I had a seperate thread for that exact topic some montha ago, remember?

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Don't buy it for $10. Wait until it goes on sale, which it does fairly frequently. I got it off steam last year for $2.75.

If my dinosaur of a computer can run it, anything remotely new will have no problem.
Might do that for KotOR II. Like I said, not restarting now.

Also, a new observation, and OasisX may have been onto something. Game was getting realy bad after 5 hours straight of playing it. I boot it back up and it runs perfect again for about half an hour to an hour(Wasn't really keeping track). So I think I just can't play it for too long in one sitting which is fine. My norm for playing a game in one sitting according to my 3ds (yeah, whatever assuming it's the same for most consoles) is 40 some minutes nowadays. I'm shocked I played a game for 5 hours straight and didn't get bored. I can't do that often anymore with any game, not half that!
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Do you? I don't know how you could be this confused if you already knew how slapped together the emulation was for the xbox original games. Either way I was replying to what OasisX said-
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It's not backwards compatible, that's the point.
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All other xbox original games I've tried have worked fine, so you could understand why this confused me?
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I'm not trying to give you a hard time but no, I don't understand. You know the set up and how unstable it all is from the other topic. It doesn't matter I was just saying it seems strange you'd be confused by it.
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Don't buy it for $10. Wait until it goes on sale, which it does fairly frequently. I got it off steam last year for $2.75.
Yeah, I don't use steam often, so not sure on any of their sales. In a sense you could get it for nothing, but a game as good as kotor shouldn't even think about getting it in those means

If my dinosaur of a computer can run it, anything remotely new will have no problem.
Ah I remember when my old computer actually had issues running the game xD

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Yeah, I had a seperate thread for that exact topic some montha ago, remember?



Might do that for KotOR II. Like I said, not restarting now.

Also, a new observation, and OasisX may have been onto something. Game was getting realy bad after 5 hours straight of playing it. I boot it back up and it runs perfect again for about half an hour to an hour(Wasn't really keeping track). So I think I just can't play it for too long in one sitting which is fine. My norm for playing a game in one sitting according to my 3ds (yeah, whatever assuming it's the same for most consoles) is 40 some minutes nowadays. I'm shocked I played a game for 5 hours straight and didn't get bored. I can't do that often anymore with any game, not half that!
It's really noticeable with this gen's consoles. They overheat, and if any dust gets into them going to make them overheat even faster. That's kinda the downside to the consoles getting rushed out as they did


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All other xbox original games I've tried have worked fine, so you could understand why this confused me?
Found this little bit in that link dudebro posted.

''Sound may sometimes become very quiet until the Xbox is reset; often experiences heavy lag during combat and short lag bursts out of combat. May also experience freezing during gameplay not associated with cutscenes. Sound may cut in and out during dialog. Enable Widescreen by setting resolution to 480p within Xbox 360 Dashboard. Xbox Live online features are no longer supported.''

Xbox live features not being supported basically means, you can't even get the bug fixes for the game anymore. So any game breaking issues that were in the original game your pretty much out of luck, unless someone uploaded the fixes online for xbox, then you could just throw them on a flash drive and install them.
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So, if I change to widescreen, it could help?
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