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Old 08-22-2009, 11:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Dissidia: Final Fantasy: Chaos or Cosmos?

With the soon release of Final Fantasy's second fighting game
(Ehrgeiz: God Bless the Ring was the first)

What will you fight for?

Personally you can never go wrong with this:

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Re: Dissidia: Final Fantasy: Chaos or Cosmos?

So are there any masculine main characters in this game or any Final Fantasy game for that matter? I don't understand how guys can relate to these effeminate boys in tight pants and half jackets(with a furry collar!). I think this is why I've been losing interest in Square Enix games since FF7(when the graphics made it hard to tell how emo/girly Cloud was). Sorry to rant but this always bugs me.
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Re: Dissidia: Final Fantasy: Chaos or Cosmos?

I can totally see your point with Cloud, he was very whiney.

Squall's a different story; he's tough, has the most powerful deperation attack in Fantasy history, he actually get's the girl (unlike Cloud), and he's very mature and hardworking.
He also has a very interesting past at the orphaniage.

Like Edgar, without the womanizing part.
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Re: Dissidia: Final Fantasy: Chaos or Cosmos?

Nope squall is as just as emo as cloud if not more. The only Final Fantasy main character I can think of who isn't this way is Ramza from FFT, he's not super macho but at least he's not cloud or squall.
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Re: Dissidia: Final Fantasy: Chaos or Cosmos?

Just because someone is emo, it doesn't mean they suck.

Look at Cecil and Shadow.
He's just like both of them only, more of a introvert.
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Re: Dissidia: Final Fantasy: Chaos or Cosmos?

Well I think whiny, emo characters suck. I like a character I can relate to.
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Re: Dissidia: Final Fantasy: Chaos or Cosmos?

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Well I think whiny, emo characters suck. I like a character I can relate to.
What about Zidane and Tidus?
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Re: Dissidia: Final Fantasy: Chaos or Cosmos?

Squall is awesome, he's just like Han Solo.
At first he's a jerk but his experences turn him into a deep caring persona thanks to Rinoa,
(who's just like Leia) the resistance leader.
He's only emo in the beggining of FFVIII.

-Zidanes just like Edgar, only more Hyperactive.
(He even asks Shinotto on a date)
-And Tidus is the deep end, he's extremely whiney. He's my least favorite Dissidia Character.
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Re: Dissidia: Final Fantasy: Chaos or Cosmos?

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Squall is awesome, he's just like Han Solo.
So you're saying the makers of FF copied a tired old plot point? That doesn't make him awesome. Also Han Solo is not a girly man.



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What about Zidane and Tidus?
Oh yeah they aren't girly men at all.

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Re: Dissidia: Final Fantasy: Chaos or Cosmos?

Anyways, I prefer the baddies of Final Fantasy, but I'm a little confused who they chose.

Labeling Golbez as the bad guy of FFIV is understandable, but I don't know what they were thinking when they made Jchet evil, a rough guy maybe, but not evil. But you can tell from the start Seymour was a downright corrupting kind of person and clearly more of an antagonist in FFX.

Why is the Cloud of Darkness the bad guy for FFIII? The legend is that darkness and light will rule every other 1000 years, the scales tipping when four warriors then an alignment-merciless wave of either side comes to kill almost everyone, but the main antagonist is Xenmus(I can't remember his exact name) because a lot of the minor-villains claim him to be the one to bring the next wave
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So you're saying the makers of FF copied a tired old plot point? That doesn't make him awesome. Also Han Solo is not a girly man.
Also FFVI was directly inspired by Star Wars in many aspects.

Bigs and Wedge, "Aren't you a little short to be a Solidier?", Terra bears some similarities to Luke Skywalker, Setzer bears some similarities to Han Solo, and a group of rebels intend to defeat a dictating empire despite disadvantages in men.
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Re: Dissidia: Final Fantasy: Chaos or Cosmos?

@ Dudebro, there are two types of emo, Whiney emo and tough introvert emo.
Squall is the tough introvert emo. And he's not emo at the end of the game.
Only in the beggining. And no I don't mean he IS Han, just LIKE him.
@Drunkninja, Jecht was Sin. Enough said.

My favorite villan is the Emperor of FFII.

After you kill him, he goes to hell and dethrones the devil,
and trys to reclaim Earth as the ruler of hell. Now thats dedication.
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@Drunkninja, Jecht was Sin. Enough said.
I don't particularly think that Jecht chose or wanted to become Sin.
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@ Dudebro, there are two types of emo, Whiney emo and tough introvert emo.
Sure, whatever helps you sleep at night. Either way Squall is not someone I can relate to so it hurts the overall game imo. The rest of the "guys" in that game were equally feminine so I couldn't get into the story or care about the characters. At least FF7 had Barret and Cid.

I'm not trying to go back and forth with you. I understand that for some reason you think squall is awesome but I will never change my mind about it. There's no point in debating it since we're never gonna change each others minds.
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So are there any masculine main characters in this game or any Final Fantasy game for that matter? I don't understand how guys can relate to these effeminate boys in tight pants and half jackets(with a furry collar!). I think this is why I've been losing interest in Square Enix games since FF7(when the graphics made it hard to tell how emo/girly Cloud was). Sorry to rant but this always bugs me.

i never even paid that much attention to him to notice he clothes
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i never even paid that much attention to him to notice he clothes
Yes, generally in a fighting game (especially this one) it's more about beating the hell out of the other opponent.
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Sure, whatever helps you sleep at night. Either way Squall is not someone I can relate to so it hurts the overall game imo. The rest of the "guys" in that game were equally feminine so I couldn't get into the story or care about the characters. At least FF7 had Barret and Cid.

I'm not trying to go back and forth with you. I understand that for some reason you think squall is awesome but I will never change my mind about it. There's no point in debating it since we're never gonna change each others minds.
Squall was in VIII.
And Irvine was the biggest ladies man in series history.
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Well I'm talking about the RPG since that came first. I had to look at those damn girly characters for hours so yeah I noticed.

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Your point? Plenty of girly men are also ladies men(is that ironic?).
That was going on before FFVII if that's your point. It just became more clear when games and systems that could process graphics much quicker came.
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Re: Dissidia: Final Fantasy: Chaos or Cosmos?

Yeah I know. I think good graphics ruined most of the modern FF games. For some reason Square Enix is obsessed with little fem boys who like to whine and cry.
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Re: Dissidia: Final Fantasy: Chaos or Cosmos?

Setzer had long flowing hair and womanized Maria,
I guess that makes him a Girly Man too.

Despite how awesome he really is.
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Old 08-23-2009, 09:35 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Dissidia: Final Fantasy: Chaos or Cosmos?

No Setzer is like Captain Kirk, a man whore. Same with Edgar but he's not as slick. Having long hair doesn't mean anything, hell all the people we've been talking about have short lesbian looking haircuts anyways.
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No Setzer is like Captain Kirk, a man whore. Same with Edgar but he's not as slick. Having long hair doesn't mean anything, hell all the people we've been talking about have short lesbian looking haircuts anyways.
I do believe Tenser would have something to say about this.
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Why would Tenser care? I think he'd agree that Setzer is a slick, man whore.
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No Setzer is like Captain Kirk, a man whore. Same with Edgar but he's not as slick. Having long hair doesn't mean anything, hell all the people we've been talking about have short lesbian looking haircuts anyways.
Seriously, Do you only hate FF7-12 characters solely because they're in 3D?
A smell a real bias.

Final Fantasy VIII had one of the most memorable cast in series history.
At the level of IV and VI.
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Seriously, Do you only hate FF7-12 characters solely because they're in 3D?
A smell a real bias.

Final Fantasy VIII had one of the most memorable cast in series history.
At the level of IV and VI.
Agreed, characters in IV and VI are very emo as well.
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