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Old 11-13-2009, 08:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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1 Million banned from XboxLive

Report: Microsoft bans 1 million Xbox Live players - CNN.com
So it seems about a million people got console banned for playing pirated games and/or modding their Xbox. I read the forums over there and I've noticed a lot of talk about console bans but I never realized it was this big. I'm glad to see them cracking down but banning a console for playing a game early seems excessive. Modding I can understand.
What do you guys think?

Btw the article only mentions MW2 but I've seen many console bans for stuff like ODST, Forza, w/e is the newest hyped game. I guess people just have to play a game two days before everyone else.
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Old 11-13-2009, 09:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: 1 Million banned from XboxLive

I'm glad they are starting to crack down on the modding issue and I would like to see them ban a few more consoles, particularly those owned by individuals who have hacked into Halo 2 & 3. I used to enjoy that series on XBox Live, but it has become a game of "lets see if we can play fairly and still manage to score a few points against players who appear to be flying around the levels on rocket packs, with invincibility shields and weapons that can shoot you through solid walls".

The cheating is rampant and it's usually the biggest trash talkers that are the lamest players and feel the need to have to compensate for their obvious lack of skill by modding the games. It has gotten so bad that I almost never play any of the Halo games online anymore and have been reluctant to play MW as well.

That's my take on the issue.
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Re: 1 Million banned from XboxLive

According to the article about 1 in 20 are banned.
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Re: 1 Million banned from XboxLive

Wait, DB, what do you mean by playing a game early?
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Re: 1 Million banned from XboxLive

playing a pirated game like MW 2 before it comes out because games are usually leaked a couple of days before release for pirating...
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Re: 1 Million banned from XboxLive

if theyre stupid enough to start playing it online, even before the release date then they deserve their bans
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Old 11-13-2009, 09:04 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: 1 Million banned from XboxLive

Well, then they aren't getting banned for playing a game early, they're getting banned for stealing their $60 worth.
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Re: 1 Million banned from XboxLive

I'm suprised about the numbers, I didn't think it would be that bad.
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Re: 1 Million banned from XboxLive

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Well, then they aren't getting banned for playing a game early, they're getting banned for stealing their $60 worth.
I would assume this to be the case. I don't think the reason most people mod their system is to play a game a day or two earlier than the release date.
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I'm suprised about the numbers, I didn't think it would be that bad.
Yeah, well once one person flashes their DVD drive, then it has a domino effect. You don't even want to know how many modded their original Xbox (me included).

Which reminds me... I should mod it again, so I can fire up my SNES roms again.
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Well, then they aren't getting banned for playing a game early, they're getting banned for stealing their $60 worth.
my point wasnt that they were palying it early, my point was how blatently they were advertising that they had an illegal copy of the game.
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Old 11-13-2009, 10:42 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: 1 Million banned from XboxLive

From reading the Xbox forum I get the impression that just playing a game early gets you a suspension from Live. This is more serious than other issues like abusive language or w/e which only gets a couple days worth of ban but it's still not a console ban.

Here's a quote from a mods post in the account suspension section-
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They're taking a hard stance on this. Here's some of the things they console ban for-
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They won't even discuss it, that's rough.
If anyone wants to check out that part of the forum it's pretty funny. Almost daily there's several people who claim they did nothing wrong and the mods come in and shut them down.
Xbox.com | Xbox LIVE Help - Account Suspensions and Player Feedback
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lol, i just saw on the news that xbox 360's are flooding ebay.
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Old 11-13-2009, 11:21 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Yeah that pisses me off. These little bastards are now going to ruin someone elses day by selling them a dead xbox that they can never use online. I wish there was a way to prosecute these jerks for selling defective merchandise.
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MS should make a way of verifying this before buying a second hand xbox. A serial number that you can enter into a website and find out if it was banned or not.
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Re: 1 Million banned from XboxLive

I don't think they care. The gaming companies are against rentals and buying used. They go out of their way to ruin it so I doubt they'll do anything to help out the used/rental system. They'll just tell people to buy them new.
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Re: 1 Million banned from XboxLive

That seems a bit drastic, if someone wants to hack a game or mod a console, it's up to them, I can see if they use obviously hacked games online, or if they mod their console to do something like download games from the xbox live arcade for free, some people by an xbox without even noticing that it is modded.
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It is up to the user if they wanna mod the system or not. Microsoft is only banning you from using their online service. You can play offline any way you want but when it comes to online everyone is supposed to be on equal footing.
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I doubt many people are buying a modded xbox without knowing what they are buying.

MS says theses are the rules
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Break a rule and you can't play there. Sounds fair.

We do a similar thing. We state the rules. If you do a minor infraction we give you a warning to make sure you are aware. If you repeat or do a major infraction then we ban you.
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I agree. The thing I'm worried about is all the banned xboxs on Ebay and in stores like Gamestop that aren't modded(or you can't tell it's been tampered with). Innocent people will buy them and have to deal with BS to get their money back. A place like gamestop will exchange it I bet but through Ebay I think you're SOL.
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There may be a mod coming up that will un-ban their consoles. That could get ugly.

And stevencassidy, I was referring to Dudebro's comment, not yours.
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Re: 1 Million banned from XboxLive

I didn't think it only bans the xbox but bans the ISP from using the service as well. Wouldn't this make more sense?
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Re: 1 Million banned from XboxLive

No from my understanding they just ban the Xbox from Live. Also they could ban your gamertag/account, bye bye anything you bought from the marketplace(unless it's on your HD and it hasn't been modded). If you buy a new console you're good to go.

Actually when people request more investigation into their bans the mods warn them that it could result in a GT/account ban if more evidence comes to light. So if some idiot pushes them they'll ban him harder. People who didn't do anything wrong would be cleared, hopefully.

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Old 11-14-2009, 06:29 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I guess it serves them right, in my opinion. I don't know why someone would mod their 360, they miss out on a bunch of cool things. Since Last.fm, Facebook, and Twitter are on the Xbox soon, they're probably not happy.
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I would assume this to be the case. I don't think the reason most people mod their system is to play a game a day or two earlier than the release date.
Agreed. I don't think that is the reason for most people.

Following up on what Gamenguru said, we hardly ever play Halo 3 any more because the cheating had gotten so blatant that it just wasn't fun anymore. One of the last games we played had a team that we killed the members of about 15-20 times, yet the game never registered that they even died. Also, they had about 4-5 times the normal stamina and ran at 2-3x the normal speed. Crazy, but this kind of thing happened regularly! I'm glad they finally lowered the boom.
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