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Old 08-05-2011, 07:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The Return of Shinobi!

Hello friends, did you hear that Sega is going back to their library of classic characters and publishing a new game for the 3DS featuring the super ninja Shinobi? Check out the trailer below!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFvrzBQjj_I"]‪Shinobi 3DS: Debut Trailer‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]

I am a big fan of the character and game series. Shinobi was one of my favorite arcade titles while growing up. It made the jump to consoles with a few visual changes. The character went from wearing black to white and going from bare faced to wearing a mask. The core mechanics went relatively unchanged. The game was set on a 2D plane and the character could throw shiruken (ninja stars) perform close melee strikes and even use ninja magic to damage hordes of opponents. I think the best part of the series was the art direction. The game combined classic Eastern designs within the context of a modern world. Soldiers appeared alongside sword-wielding raiders, robots and demons seemed to coexist in a time where technology and magic ruled the underworld.



Any fan old enough to remember the game would also remember the Spider-Man rip-off character that appeared as a bad guy. Sega had done many more unlicensed cameos in the home version, including characters that looked like Spider-Man, Batman, the Terminator and Godzilla. One by one they were replaced in different releases of the game as copyright lawyers contacted Sega. As a kid I was entranced by the character design and simple gameplay elements. I would try to draw levels and bosses from memory and try to invent my own ninja magic attacks in the pages of my sketchbook (or margins in my homework!). The simple side-scrolling mechanics were easy for me to grasp and helped develop a sense of range and timing, the awesome character designs kept me coming back. Perhaps this was why I was also a fan of other titles with a similar design aesthetic and control scheme including Namco's [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v559cYVKp34"]Rolling Thunder[/ame] (which came out a year before Shinobi) and Capcom's Strider (which came out two years after Shinobi).



The game and character saw several revisions on the home consoles. The Genesis seemed to be the system where the character made the biggest impact, had the most memorable levels and adventures, just like Sonic the Hedgehog! There was an attempt to reboot the franchise a few years ago < a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFAEWrzJt3o">on the Playstation 2 but the game and it's follow-up [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz3XduQix6I"]Kunoichi[/ame]. Unfortunately the remakes did not take off. The art and character designs were solid, the boss characters imaginative and the overall mix of classic martial arts archetypes and high technology were still there. However the mechanics of 3D gameplay did not work as well as audiences had expected. Many lamented that this game was not on par with the contemporary Ninja Gaiden series or as groundbreaking as God of War.

It looks like the developers of the new game have learned from the relaunches and had returned the mechanics back to 2D gameplay. The characters, models and bosses are a mix of classic and technological themes and the graphics are rendered in full 3D, but the gameplay preserves the 2D mechanics with a few 3D chase scenes thrown into the mix. The new Shinobi design looks like a nod to the classic Genesis character and more recent PS2 hero. Developer Griptonite has been doing their homework and has obviously been paying attention to the wave of nostalgia and remakes sweeping over gamers. Thanks to the price drop on the 3DS chances are I'll actually get a chance to check out this game and several more over the holiday season.



Unfortunately not every studio understands the classic formula. Take for example the recently announced [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPoD0VcVfK8"]Double Dragon II remake, aka Wander of the Dragons[/ame]. The characters and gameplay have moved to full 3D, expect many fans of the original game to pass over this ill conceived remake. Hopefully those same gamers will be willing to give Shinobi a chance. What do you think? Have any favorite arcade games that you would like to see remade?



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Nice! I love the Shinobi Series, I hope this turns out to be as great as the other ones.
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Nice on Robot.

This game looks pretty fun. May get the new 3DS one if it's good and not that difficult
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Has anyone here played the PS2 Shinobi? Is it any good?
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I heard it's outstanding, but ridiculously difficult.
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It's okay, I wear the t-shirt regularly. Youd be better off with an instalment of the Tenchu series.
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I heard it's outstanding, but ridiculously difficult.
I'm sure I've played harder.
I hear it is difficult due to the fact that the sword begins to absorb your life if you aren't killing someone.
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That's what I've heard too.
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I like outlandishly difficult games.
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If you want a brutal game, play F-Zero GX, that game is insanely difficult.
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Re: The Return of Shinobi!

F-Zero GX, isn't that only difficult because the computer cheats and makes the generally slower vehicles move ten times your speed? Doesn't that hold true for every game in the series, and most other racing games as well?

Besides, I've played through situations worse than this:
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I think I can handle fast cars, or being outnumbered twenty-to-one. I love a bit of dirty twenty-to-one.
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Nah I don't think the first F-zero was like that really. Besides the other cars being invincible, which is understandable, I think the races were pretty fair. It's been a long time since I've played it though so feel free to correct me.

Did any of you play Destruction Derby for PS1?
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2:00 is where the action starts. In that mode all the other cars came after you. It may look like mayhem but there's definitely something telling the AI to chase you exclusively if it can, other cars are just in the way. It was very hard to win a match.
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I think the other cars got a pretty decent boost at the beginning, had insane weight, couldn't be destroyed {save for the 'faceless' cars you never played as}, and they were able to catch up to you when you missed a hard turn, even when you had an insane lead over them. I also think they were immune to the areas that slowed you down and the magnets.
Destruction Derby looks awesome, even if the computer was definitely out for your head in particular. It's like how every immortal specifically wanted Duncan's head.
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I'm pretty sure the other primary cars played relatively fair in f-zero. They were invincible and seemed to get boosted if they were lagging behind but I don't remember them being unfair under normal conditions. Doesn't matter either way but I liked that game I usually hate cheap AI games, stood out to me.

Destruction Derby is an awesome game we played the hell out of it. The racing was fun too because they had lots of crashes and dirty driving. Some of the levels also had suicide intersections where traffic would cross at high speeds. It was always a gamble and you had no choice but to floor it. What a game.

About Shinobi, it's too hard for me. It seems cool and all but I don't like frustratingly hard games really.
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Yeah, F-Zero wasn't too bad in terms of AI fairness, just difficult enough to be interesting, but not so difficult you couldn't win and never wanted to play again.

I like playing frustratingly difficult games, so I can get good enough that the games are no longer frustrating.
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I give up in those situations. I don't feel bad admitting that either. If a game is making me annoyed then why play it? I just don't think it's worth the bother. Not to say you guys shouldn't bother either, this is just my philosophy.

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I can respect that. For me, if a game is fun but, the difficulty can become annoying at time, I find it is generally in my best interest to learn to overcome that difficulty so I can enjoy it as a whole.
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I see frustrating games as yeilding the best payoff when you do beat them. The rush you get winning after trying 50 times is awesome.
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Or you could've played a couple other fun games in that same time.
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It's still fun even though I'm getting slaughtered, I like games of all difficulties. I'm not ashamed to say on occassion I'll play a game meant for toddlers.
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Ah, but I find those difficult games fun. That's not to say I don't enjoy easy games as well but, I still have a preference for difficult games.
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I have the same view as DB, while it is nice to play a hard game once and a
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By the way...

Shinobi 3DS is going to be released November 15th for those who wanted to know.

Didn't see it in the article, so I thought I might as well mention it. I may get it. I'll see the reviews it gets first.
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I don't find it looks all that great, it's gonna need some customization. (I'm hoping that's the reason for the gigantic, distracting numbers) If it's just a straight up romp through an hour long arcade game I'm gonna pass.
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I will most likely get this unless it gets really bad reviews.

I probably wont buy it new though as I have a laundry list of DS games I still want to play as well.
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