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Old 11-19-2010, 08:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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About six months after it first began streaming high-end PC games to tiny desktop clients via broadband, OnLive is poised to unleash its Game System package: a game controller bundled with a compact, Wi-Fi- and HDMI-equipped console that'll stream games like Batman: Arkham Asylum and Assassin's Creed II to your HDTV, all for less than $100. Set to start shipping Dec. 2, the $99 OnLive Game System comes with a controller that looks pretty much like the controller you get with an Xbox 360. But the so-called MicroConsole is something else: Instead of a big box juiced with a high-powered GPU and loads of RAM, the MicroConsole is a little more than a paperback-book-sized conduit for the OnLine streaming game service, which is powered by a series of data centers across the country.


OnLive $99 Game System: The future of console gaming? - Video Games Blog Plugged In - Yahoo! Games
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Old 11-19-2010, 10:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Personally I like having physical media in my hands, but I guess this could be a good option for those on a budget.
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Old 11-19-2010, 10:43 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I like having the physical games too, but I've got no problem with the games being online. If this thing rolls like a Netflix type of deal, I would be very interested in getting this thing.
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I looked into this some.
1. You do not need to buy the $100 device. That is just if you do not have a computer to run it on. It will run on nearly any computer, even slow ones.
2. I installed it and tried to test it out but my Internet is not stable enough to use it. I have a very fast connection but I get lots of dropped signals because I am going through a 300 ft cable that has been spliced together several times and service in my neighborhood sucks.
3. Comes with 30 minute free trials for all games.
4. Only has about 50 games.

So, if you have a computer and a good Internet connection, I think it would be worth at least checking out. Looks to be very promising. I predict a similar technology being the driving force behind the next generation of gaming.

You send them keystrokes over the Internet and the game plays on their server and they send you a video of the game back in real time with no lag. It does cause some artifacts on the screen but lag doesn't seem to be a problem. My problem was I kept getting disconnected which is very annoying.
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That is a very interesting way this works, I wish Minecraft did that, instead of the server providing the game, and my computer still lagging it.
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Fungusman's guide to faking organic growth on the internet.

Hire a team of people to make fake threads on 4chan about product
Word gets out on other connected forums (something awful,new grounds, ytmnd,ign)
Word hits the blogs who copy and paste each other
Watch the masses catch on to the product like its something worth talking about

People who have used this method:
Call of Duty MW2, Mass Effect 2, Mine Craft, Onlive

Onlive looks like it sucks hard, and the more people even talk about it the more popular it becomes. That would be like selling all your consoles because Retro uprising can stream them in your browser.

If you lurk /v/ enough you'll get a knack for seeing whats 'viral' (meaning FORCED VIRAL MARKETING) and whats not.

Like serious ... do you think anyone really cares about onlive ? lol it's like the virtual boy of consoles. Monthly fee, you don't keep the games, it's so dumb.

PS. There wont be a next gen of gaming. All the tech and the dev kits are merging. We are gonna have one system made by a ton of different tech companies. Consoles will go the route of computers. Nintendo will release something and you can get some fisher price like GRAPHIC UPGRADE made by sega or something. It doesn't make any sense, the only reason why xbox exists is because of DIRECT X a framework microsoft makes tons of money off of and the xbox is one more excuse for people to use it. Sony uses opengl and linux. However sony computers use windows. They will always be in microsofts pocket to keep relations good for sonys other departments. Hardcores arent going to convert over to farmville over night, nor are casuals going to buy 2k rigs to play FPS games. ITS GOING TO BE THE SAME STORY FOR MANY YEARS TO COME THE PLAYERS MAY SWITCH AROUND THOUGH. It's based on tech, the reason why they make consoles is to sell tech. The games make money too, but the tech is just as profitable but us mere mortals dont see what goes on behind closed doors unless you have subscriptions to trade magazines or know people who work in the business. I have friends who are lead ps3 tech developers, I have(had) a subscription to game developer trade magazines and generally follow this crap.

ITS ABOUT TECH, PREDICT THE GAMING FUTURE BY KEEPING AN EYE ON WHO OWNS WHAT PATENTS/TECH/BUSINESS TIES EACH HAVE WITH EACH OTHER.

My prediction ? Microsoft and sony will have to see eye to eye on their consoles some how. Either team up and make one console or share some type of architecture detail. The new sony phones are sporting windows 7, will psp2 have windows 7 ? Who knows.

Nintendo will continue to do their thing, the've already teamed up with sega to make hardware in the past 10 years, I wouldnt be surprised if Sega buys out or gets bought out by nintendo to make make hardware for them. DS3d uses sharp touch screens so thats a murky sign nintendo and sony arent gonna be friends anytime soon. Sega + Nintendo Vs Sony + Microsoft. If it happens you owe me a beer ;D

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etc etc etc

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lol it's like the virtual boy of consoles. Monthly fee, you don't keep the games, it's so dumb.
Like Netflix. Monthly fee and you don't get to keep the movies, but it's the most popular thing on the internet.
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It's not for everyone Fungus. But give it some time and the idea might grow on you.
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Old 11-27-2010, 02:27 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Netflix is the same idea and destroyed Block Buster. It will catch on.
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Onlive is now fully up and at em, they removed the monthly fee, and it's really starting to catch on. Personally, I love it. The microconsole has a nice feel to it's controller, but it can't use wifi, so be wary. Finally, my onlive username is Ayanleman, so hit me up and play Unreal Tournament/Red faction/ FEAR 2/ Borderlands, cause those are the games I have on there.
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So if you have a PC this is free? Kong said earlier that the 99$ device is not needed if you have a PC and now Deadtears says no monthly fee, so what's the catch?
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I think Dead Tears is wrong. Do you have a link that says it is free?

I think my post above from a couple months ago is still accurate.

Demos are free but unlimited play has a fee.

I am very confident that the next gen war will be over this type of technology. I think when Nintendo said they were working on a big secret project this is what they meant. Anyone want to take bets?
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Would this be cloud computing? If so I totally think that's on it's way to the top.
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Yes. Although they will probably come up with a better marketing term as that is a bit too generalized and doesn't mean anything to the average consumer.
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Steam already does this but I haven't really made use of it yet. Supposedly I can enable my Civ5 game to allow it to go the steamcloud and play it from anywhere Steam is installed. Also it auto updates the game whenever something new comes out, that's awesome.
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Steam just stores files such as configs and saves etc. in the cloud. That is different.

Onlive, and I predict the next Nintendo, will play the game in the cloud. The game is fully played on a server and the audio/video is streamed to you. So your home console only has to be strong enough to play a youtube video while the game can be the most technically advanced possible.

That's why I think they will have a better marketing term than cloud. Cloud can mean a lot of things.
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Different but still on the same path right? I think it's like a first step for them, they know the alternative is not feasible atm.
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Our ISP in Ontario along wit the CTRC just passed some stupid law where unlimited DL packages are going to be abolished. They did this because they are also the cable providers, and they were loosing too much money from Netflix and other online sources for T.V. and movies.

So basically now it's no longer financially feesable to use things like Netflix for anyone in Ontario (and Qubec) if cloud is the future of gaming, and this law sticks around, then I'm screwed.
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I remember Miyamoto commenting that he thought the idea of cloud computing was interesting.
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Old 01-31-2011, 01:03 PM   #20 (permalink)
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@Steven. We should be getting fiber optics soon. Hopefully. And that would probably lift your limit.

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Different but still on the same path right?
It's pretty different. Steam is just storing save states on their servers. Onlive is performing all computation on their servers. It's like saying shoes and cars are both modes of transportation. While that is true, you don't really think of both as being very similar.

It would give you the ability to play the most advanced game ever created on something less powerful than most current cell phones.

Steam does not do anything close to that.

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I think it's like a first step for them, they know the alternative is not feasible atm.
Onlive is already doing the alternative and I predict Nintendo is working on perfecting it right now.

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I think Dead Tears is wrong. Do you have a link that says it is free?
They sent me an E-mail saying they dropped the fee because of our buyer patterns, just about everyone bought a game on here. I've been using it since september of '10, and now they also do have a new monthly fee thing, except instead of a monthly fee just to use the service, it's a netflix like service with about 26 games you can play nonstop. Otherwise, you can drop the monthly fee and pay for games individually. There are some games you can only get in the monthly fee plan, but some you can only get outside the monthly fee plan.
Also, updates are done automatically.

Finally, you don't even need a credit card to sign up anymore.
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I would be interested in this once it gets more games available.
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I would be interested in this once it gets more games available.
yes well, there is no harm in giving it a shot!

Here you go.
Just see how it is.
And remember, Ayanleman is my onlive playertag.
*EDIT* also, it has a rental option for people who don't want to play a game for very long.

They also have regular sales, which is CAH-RAZY! I bought Unreal Tournament III, FEAR 2, and Red Faction Guerilla for 20$! not each, but all together!
also, I bought borderlands using a 10$ coupon during a sale. best ten bucks i never spent.

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Thanks for the link.
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Re: New System for only $99

Sounds like it's a lot more practical then Gamefly
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