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Old 05-07-2011, 01:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Art of video games museum exhibit

Apparently there was public voting about this and none of us heard about it.
Smithsonian 'Art of Video Games' winners announced | Joystiq

So, obviously this is a popularity contest because it was decided by votes but it's still pretty cool to see the results. Bear in mind that this was about the artistic value of the games, not how good they are or aren't. Let's keep that debate out of this please.

On to the list of winners!
  • 1943: The Battle of Midway
  • Advanced Dungeons and Dragons
  • After Burner
  • Attack of the Mutant Camels
  • Bioshock
  • Boom Blox
  • Brütal Legend
  • ChuChu Rocket!
  • Combat
  • Desert Commander
  • Diablo II
  • Donkey Kong
  • DOOM II
  • Dune II: Battle for Arrakis
  • Earthworm Jim
  • Einhander
  • Fable
  • Fallout
  • Fallout 3
  • Final Fantasy Tactics
  • Final Fantasy VII
  • flOw
  • Flower
  • Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2
  • Goldeneye 007
  • Gradius V
  • Gunstar Heroes
  • Halo 2
  • Heavy Rain
  • Jumpman
  • Lord of the Rings: Battle for Middle Earth II
  • Marble Madness
  • MassEffect 2
  • Metal Gear Solid
  • Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
  • Metroid Prime 2: Echos
  • Minecraft
  • Okami
  • Pac-Man
  • Panzer Dragoon II: Zwei
  • Panzer Dragoon Orta
  • Panzer Dragoon Saga
  • Phantasy Star
  • Phantasy Star IV
  • Pikmin 2
  • Pitfall II: Lost Caverns
  • Pitfall!
  • Portal
  • Rez
  • Shadow of Colossus
  • Shenmue
  • Sid Meier's Pirates!
  • SimCity
  • SimCity 2000
  • Sonic Adventure
  • Space Invaders
  • Spy vs Spy
  • Star Fox
  • Star Fox: Assault
  • Star Strike
  • Star Trek: Strategic Operations Simulator
  • StarCraft
  • Super Mario 64
  • Super Mario Brothers 3
  • Super Mario Galaxy 2
  • Super Mario World
  • The Bard's Tale III: Thief of Fate
  • The Legend of Zelda
  • The Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past
  • The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
  • The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Walker
  • The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
  • Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell
  • Tomb Raider
  • TRON: Maze-Atron
  • Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
  • Utopia
  • Worms Armageddon
  • Zack & Wiki: Quest for Barbaros' Treasure
  • Zaxxon
The following games will be available to play for a few minutes. They probably made sure to specify the few minutes thing because of the nature of gamers, the lines would be HUGE otherwise.
Pac-Man, Super Mario Brothers, The Secret of Monkey Island, Myst, and World of Warcraft.

Link to the PDF of the winners with runners up listed as well(ET got a nod, Tenser might just die from surprise). It also neatly organizes them by system with pictures.
http://americanart.si.edu/exhibition...nninggames.pdf



List of the ones we have on RU-
Retro Uprising - Arcade - 1943 - The Battle of Midway
Retro Uprising - Arcade - After Burner
Retro Uprising - Arcade - Combat
Retro Uprising - Arcade - Desert Commander
Retro Uprising - Arcade - Donkey Kong
Retro Uprising - Arcade - Dune II - The Building of a Dynasty
Retro Uprising - Arcade - Marble Madness
Retro Uprising - Arcade - Pacman
Retro Uprising - Arcade - Phantasy Star
Retro Uprising - Arcade - Phantasy Star 4 - The End of The Millennium
Retro Uprising - Arcade - Pitfall
Retro Uprising - Arcade - Sim City
Retro Uprising - Arcade - Space Invaders
Retro Uprising - Arcade - Spy vs. Spy -
Retro Uprising - Arcade - Star Fox
Retro Uprising - Arcade - Star Trek - Strategic Operations Simulator
Retro Uprising - Arcade - Super Mario Bros. 3
Retro Uprising - Arcade - Super Mario World
Retro Uprising - Arcade - Legend of Zelda
Retro Uprising - Arcade - Legend Of Zelda: A Link To The Past, The
Retro Uprising - Arcade - Zaxxon
Let me know if I missed any or put the wrong version.

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Re: Art of video games museum exhibit

So .. does this mean that video games are finally considered to be Art?
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I would say so if they're having an exhibit in the Smithsonian museum of art in DC. It may not be perfect but it's a good start.
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Then this is a day to celebrate indeed!


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For sure. I see this as a step towards legitimacy for video game culture. Things have already been getting better but this pretty notable imo. It's gonna be hard to question the artistic value of games when they've been featured in a museums art exhibit.

Btw I felt bad that I didn't even know all the games on the list. Also, the runners up are mostly pretty cool too. I saw Herzog Zwei in there,
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I personally believe the whole issue of why certain people didn't {or wouldn't} consider video games Art was centered around the fact those people weren't Gamers themselves.
They're from the previous generation to mine and it seems to me that very few of them actually took to video games at all outside of the usual Solitaire on their desktop.
But having said that, I know of one lady in her 60's who loves RPG's.

I see Art in all kinds of games.
Call me crazy {that'd be a first!}, but I even like the {background, character} Art from the 8 - bit era and find it has an appeal all its own.

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Around here you're crazy if you don't like 8 bit art.
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It's good to see they didn't screw up and not put Shadow of the Colossus on there. That game is awesome.

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Good point Kong but Flashback made the runners up, you liked that game too right?


Btw guys I'm kinda surprised there's not much interest in this. We should all be happy about this as gamers, this is validation. What gives?
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Meh, I don't really care what others think of my hobby or if it's art or not.
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Yeah but don't you agree it's a good step for the hobby?
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Btw guys I'm kinda surprised there's not much interest in this. We should all be happy about this as gamers, this is validation. What gives?
Presonally I think gamers spend too much time thinking about what other people think about their hobby, or whether gaming is 'legitimate' in the eyes of other people, or comparing it to other types of entertainment media, etc.

If games make you happy, then you should play them and enjoy them without regard to what everyone else thinks.
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I gotta say I'm surprised by this. I don't think this is about worrying what people think of gaming. This is a museum exhibit to celebrate gaming, it's a positive thing. They had gamers vote because it's hard to have one person or a group pick out of all the games available. That and to gain interest with the people who play games. I dunno I just thought it was cool.
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Good point Kong but Flashback made the runners up, you liked that game too right?
Flashback is a good game with a similar graphic style but it doesn't compare to Out of This World. IMO it is the most artistic 16 bit game. For it's day, it is more like an interactive movie than a game. I think any list of retro artistic games fails if it doesn't start with OoTW.

And Pac-Man for 2600 is on the list?
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Yeah I didn't think of it at the time but now that you mention it leaving OoTW out is a big oversight. If any retro games are artistic that one is. I guess it's a problem with the voters, most were probably younger than us and only voted with what they knew of.

But yeah I had to check twice when I saw that version of pac man included. Isn't that the one that was widely regarded as one of the worst ports ever?
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The fact that Super Mario Bros. isnt on the list discredits it instantly.
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Re: Art of video games museum exhibit

Yeah but SMB3 won for that category, I think that's justified since it was a better looking game. Metroid and MM2 were the runners up. I think both of those are better looking than SMB1.
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Old 05-07-2011, 04:09 PM   #19 (permalink)
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It isnt about graphics, it's about the fact that SMB set a standard of gamplay that 99% of games released since still fall short of.
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It's not about gameplay at all.
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Nice.
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It's not about gameplay at all.
Okay so they are literally talking about hanging screenshots in frames? That to me isnt where the art in games lies.

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I'll have to mull over weither or not I like the direction this whole thing is going.
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It should be broken down like they do in the Oscars. Best screen shot, best storyline, best gameplay, most influential, and so on.
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What's with them refering to shmups as "target"?
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If you look at the PDF it breaks them up in system and type of game.

@steven- I honestly don't know if they're really gonna put images in frames like normal art, I assume it was gonna be some display that shows examples in each game.

I don't know about the target thing, confused me at first.
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