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Old 07-21-2010, 03:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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300 prequel

The Director of Watchmen and 300(along with his wife Debbie) gives us an update on the proposed prequel to the latter, as well as Sucker Punch and his first animated feature, Legends Of The Guardians..



Snyder has confirmed that the 300 prequel will happen, just as soon as he is finished writing the script, and Frank Miller is finished writing the comic!..

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Re: 300 prequel

They've been talking about this for a while, I'm not suprised.

I just wonder hw are they going to making a movie about a country they bashed very hard.
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What country are you talking about? I thought the prequel is about Xerses? If so then the Persian empire was huge and the part where they lost to the Spartans was only a small fraction of it that happened after this new movie(being a prequel and all).
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I never got around to watching 300, is it worth watching?
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I love the movie but it's not for everyone. If you like this clip then you'll love it too-
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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTXlWYdodnc"]YouTube - 300 Insane Fight Scene[/ame]
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DB beat me to it. It's gory and has lots of action. I quess if you like hack and slash games you'll like this flick. As far as the country bashing....if it's written in history then it's not bashing. It's just a re-enactment.
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I guess you guys are right, but they did make the persians very evil in 300.

Demon-Mask, I'd recommend 300, it was awesome.

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Everyone makes the Germans look evil because of the Nazi and the Germans don't bitch about it because it's true. ( I actually don't know that for a fact. I've just never heard of a German not accepting their countries past ) Just because the Persians did it farther back in time doesn't make it any less of a crime against humanity.
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That looks awesome. Very intense.
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Just to make something clear, the 300 movie is not an accurate representation of history. It is an accurate representation of the graphic novel 300.

A lot of the brew-haha over the representation of the Persian empire was that they were a blood-thirsty horde and a bunch of godless pagens. This may or may not be true, I have not read into the history of the Persian Empire. I do know that its representation of the Battle of Thermopylae is only told in half truths. Were there 300 Spartians there, lead by Leonidias. Yes. Were they all killed? Yes. There are however a bunch of other facts that were left out.

And yes, the movie 300 is definately worth the watch. I recommend drinking rules, everytime someone says Sparta or Spartian, or Xerses.
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The way the Persians are depicted bothered many muslims because Xerses is one of their ancient rulers and he's seen in a favorable light by them. To see him portrayed as a sexually ambiguous monster is upsetting, rightfully so. But, it's a satirical movie. It's not intended to be taken as a history lesson. If it was the immortals would actually be human.
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Really DB? Never heard that. Islam was not even a thought when Xerses was around. Iran is the one country among every muslim country that is trying to keep their culture alive(before islam). Example~language Parsi.

Great movie though, and would recommend it for sure.
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My mistake I should've said Iranians were outraged. I know I heard about a general disapproval from a large group of muslims but I can't find an article to back it up so it must've been just talk.

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The morning newspaper lay on the table with the headline "300 AGAINST 70 MILLION!" (the population of the country). It was echoed by the evening news: "Hollywood has opened a new front in the war against Iran."
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On January 27, 2007, just prior to the release of the film, the original 300 creator, Frank Miller made the following political statement about the "State of the Union": "For some reason, nobody seems to be talking about who we're up against, and the sixth century barbarism that they actually represent. These people saw people's heads off. They enslave women, they genitally mutilate their daughters, they do not behave by any cultural norms that are sensible to us. I'm speaking into a microphone that never could have been a product of their culture, and I'm living in a city where three thousand of my neighbors were killed by thieves of airplanes they never could have built."[121] He also explained the upcoming work "Holy Terror, Batman!", a story wherein Batman takes on Al-Qaeda, as: "It is, not to put too fine a point on it, a piece of propaganda … Superman punched out Hitler. So did Captain America. That's one of the things they're there for."
Not exactly a diplomatic statement but I think he has a good point.


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Thanks for the article, I never seen it. But after reading it I do rememnber hearing some things about that. It wasnt really about him being a sexually ambiguous monster though. I think you took that out of context.

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So you think the Iranians or muslims in general are ok with Xerses being portrayed as homosexual or at least Bi? If so I must in your general direction. I briefly looked for an article about it but I only found some reviews. That being said it's still an obvious slap in the face to the people offended by the movie since they openly hate homosexuality and Xerses is a grand historical figure to them. I mean really, Iran is the country whos leader publically stated that there's no homosexuals in Iran(to which the crowd openly laughed at him).
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So you think the Iranians or muslims in general are ok with Xerses being portrayed as homosexual or at least Bi? If so I must in your general direction. I briefly looked for an article about it but I only found some reviews. That being said it's still an obvious slap in the face to the people offended by the movie since they openly hate homosexuality and Xerses is a grand historical figure to them. I mean really, Iran is the country who's leader publically stated that there's no homosexuals in Iran(to which the crowd openly laughed at him).
Again, islam and Persian history(in this regard) are 2 different things, like I said Iran is the only country who is trying to keep their culture alive(not becoming arab), example is the Egyptians, who lost their whole culture. You are confused and mixing islam and Persian history, when islam was not even around yet. You say something way out of context when in fact the whole article you brought forth was saying nothing to that extent what so ever. Again bringing in the current leader of Iran and mixing it with ancient Persian history is way out of context, and makes no sense. Its like me saying our founding fathers didn't have slaves, or getting offended because they are of importance to American history. Lets get one thing straight, his importance has nothing to do with islam, so I must throw that laughter right back at ya. LOL

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I only mentioned muslims in general because they share the moronic views on sexuality. I know full well that Iran is the focal point of this. My point is I doubt many muslims are ok with a persian being portrayed as gay because they themselves are against it, for the most part. Not all muslims are persian but all persians became muslims right? It's naive to think that muslims in general wouldn't take offense to one of their own being portrayed this way by the US.
It's like if an Iranian made a movie about WW2 and portrayed one or more of the Allies as ambiguous monsters, it would piss off most people on the allied side right? Maybe not the best analogy but I think it works.
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I only mentioned muslims in general because they share the moronic views on sexuality. I know full well that Iran is the focal point of this. My point is I doubt many muslims are ok with a persian being portrayed as gay because they themselves are against it, for the most part. Not all muslims are persian but all persians became muslims right? It's naive to think that muslims in general wouldn't take offense to one of their own being portrayed this way by the US.
It's like if an Iranian made a movie about WW2 and portrayed one or more of the Allies as ambiguous monsters, it would piss off most people on the allied side right? Maybe not the best analogy but I think it works.
I just think you are confused over mid-east things in general. What you are saying is all over the place. You said muslims were upset over Xerses being portrayed as a sexually ambiguous monster and related it to the current Iranian leader blah blah. I wanted to point out you took something out of context, and your article said nothing of the sort. In fact the article has some very intersting things to say. None that you mentioned. I think you just found another spot to insult muslims. I think its pretty naive to think muslims in general would take offense to a non-muslim being bi. On top of that a Persian leader. Persians and Arabs dont get along to well, so how you make that assumption is beyond me. (Lets remember this uproar from muslims is a story you made up).

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As there are different biological, historical and psychosocial origins among many Middle-Eastern Muslim cultures, homosexual practices were widespread and public. Persian (fars) poets, such as Attar (d. 1220), Rumi (d. 1273), Sa’di (d. 1291), Hafez (d. 1389), and Jami (d. 1492), and also the Kurdish Poet Shik Raza wrote poems replete with homoerotic allusions. Recent work in queer studies suggests that while the visibility of such relationships has been much reduced, their frequency has not. The two most commonly documented forms were commercial sex with transgender males or males enacting transgender roles exemplified by the köçeks and the bacchás, and Sufi spiritual practices in which the practitioner crossed over from the idealised chaste form of the practice to one in which the desire is consummated.

For example in old Persia homosexuality and homoerotic expressions were tolerated in numerous public places, from monasteries and seminaries to taverns, military camps, bathhouses, and coffee houses.
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Awesome, I can't wait to see it! 300 was awesome so I'm expecting something good

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"Tonight we dine in hell" was awesome too.
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"Tonight we dine in hell" was awesome too.
Yeah, the movie has alot of cool quotes.

EDIT- "Spartaans! What is you're profession!?" "HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!" haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIr8u...os=9J-TEPiNT_g heres a vid for that

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I just think you are confused over mid-east things in general.
You're right. I'm glad to have your perspective on this.

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You said muslims were upset over Xerses being portrayed as a sexually ambiguous monster and related it to the current Iranian leader blah blah. I wanted to point out you took something out of context, and your article said nothing of the sort.
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My mistake I should've said Iranians were outraged. I know I heard about a general disapproval from a large group of muslims but I can't find an article to back it up so it must've been just talk.
I think that's pretty clear. Iranians were upset about the portrayal of Xerses for sure. I admit I wasn't aware of how most muslims feel about the Persian empire. The link was just about Iranians, sorry if it didn't seem that way.

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In fact the article has some very intersting things to say. None that you mentioned. I think you just found another spot to insult muslims.
I didn't post everything in the article because I figured people would read it if they cared. I quoted the part about angry Iranians because it was related to what I was talking about, angry Iranians.

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I think its pretty naive to think muslims in general would take offense to a non-muslim being bi. On top of that a Persian leader. Persians and Arabs dont get along to well, so how you make that assumption is beyond me. (Lets remember this uproar from muslims is a story you made up).
So it's your stance that the majority of muslim people are ok with bi/homosexuallity? I'm sorry but I'm just not seeing that with the treatment of homosexuals in the muslim world. If you have info that says otherwise please link it. From what I can tell some muslim countries treat it as a serious crime, sometimes with the death penalty. Being accepting of it is in the minority. I doubt they'd be cool with a character being gay if he's in some way linked to muslims. They are linked because the Persian Empire was made up of pretty much the entire middle east and one of the most iconic islamic countries values it to this day.

You're spoiler talks about the way it used to be. Things are not the same today. Homosexuality is a crime in many muslim countries and I've seen very little in the way of tolerance for anything but heteros.

Btw I'm only talking about muslims because it's related to the topic. I make no illusions that muslims have a monopoly on the mistreatment of homosexuals, the christians aren't known to be nice about it either.

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I didn't post everything in the article because I figured people would read it if they cared. I quoted the part about angry Iranians because it was related to what I was talking about, angry Iranians.
You mean you misquoted and made a story up about angry Iranians. I see you are quick to damn them for thier current beliefs but have yet to recognize the Persians for writing the worlds earliest recorded human rights declaration, as you always speak about human rights. Which happened to be in your article.

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So it's your stance that the majority of muslim people are ok with bi/homosexuallity?
No I never said that. I am saying islam has nothing to do with this what so ever and you keep dragging it in for some unknown reason to have an argument. This is not a religious matter.

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I'm sorry but I'm just not seeing that with the treatment of homosexuals in the muslim world.
Todays world correct? We are not talking about todays world so quit mixing the two together.

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If you have info that says otherwise please link it. From what I can tell some muslim countries treat it as a serious crime, sometimes with the death penalty.
Again we are not talking about todays world, and I just put something in the spoiler which shows my point pretty good. No need for a link.

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Being accepting of it is in the minority. I doubt they'd be cool with a character being gay if he's in some way linked to muslims.
I dont know how many times I have to say, or what has to be said in order for you to understand this is not a religious matter, and is not linked to islam the way you like to think.

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You're spoiler talks about the way it used to be.
Exaaaactly, where this convo should be.
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