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View Poll Results: Can anyone talk to the dead?
Yes 4 25.00%
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Old 07-25-2009, 05:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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BS1 Talking to the Dead.

I am going to start a series of debates based on the Showtime TV show Penn & Teller BS. The show is rated R so if you want to see the show you need to be a member of the PIRATE - BECAUSE ITS ARRRR RATED! group.

We are going in the same order that P&T did which means starting at "Talking to the Dead". I think this makes a rather weak debate but we'll see. I think there are better ones coming up.

So some of the points they bring up in the show:
  1. Magicians like P&T and mediums both do tricks. The difference being magicians tell you it is just a trick.
  2. When you lose a loved one all you have left is your memories of them. When psychics claim to communicate to them for you they are pissing on those memories.
  3. When a psychic convinces you that you are talking to a loved one it is very emotional and you can fool yourself into believing it and at the time can think it is a very real and moving experience. After you are out of the experience you can start thinking about it more rationally and have very negative feelings about someone taking advantage of your grief.
  4. Psychics use
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  5. Psychics make many more misses than hits but believers only pay attention to the successes so it seems more accurate than it is.
  6. If you were talking to the dead why would they ever make mistakes. Why would they all of a sudden think their name was James instead of Jimmy? Or think they died of a heart disease instead of being hit by a car?
  7. Psychic TV shows use editing tricks.
  8. You don't mend a broken heart by pretending it's not broken.

I used to have a girlfriend that worked in a museum. The museum is supposed to be in a haunted town. They try to profit on it by having haunted tours. She had to go to a famous medium that talked to the dead to see if they could use him in the museums tours somehow. I went with her. There was about 20 people in the room that all paid about $200 each to talk to a dead loved one. He did cold readings, saying stuff like I am sensing that someone is here to talk to someone. Their name starts with a J. Maybe John. Does anyone know a John? Maybe Jim? James? Then someone says I knew a James and says yes yes it is James. He tried to do something for everybody. When he got to me he was striking out on everything. I don't know anyone that has died. He finished with a joke. He said I am sensing some skeletons in your closet and he pulled a glow in the dark plastic skeleton toy out of his pocket and gave it to me. If I had paid the $200 for that skeleton I would be pissed. But since I hadn't I thought it was hilarious.

So do you believe people can talk to the dead? Why? Why not?
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Old 07-25-2009, 07:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: BS1 Talking to the Dead.

I dont know why I just voted yes.

I done a oouiji board once and that worked, it was scary.
It said "War 2k" and the trade centers fell not long after.

I beleve there Could be ways of contacting supernatural beings.

But not the silly ways like that program, I cant remember what its called, but its a guy called Colin somthing.
I think that is Wrong and out of order, giving people false hope like that.
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Old 07-25-2009, 09:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: BS1 Talking to the Dead.

Yes, anyone can talk to the dead. Psychics are all bologna though.
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Old 07-25-2009, 11:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: BS1 Talking to the Dead.

not a chance

---------- Post added at 04:32 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:30 AM ----------

well, techincally you can talk to anything, but spirits wont reply, whether or not they recieve i dont know

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Re: BS1 Talking to the Dead.

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Yes, anyone can talk to the dead. Psychics are all bologna though.
Well, talking to the dead is the easy part. Getting a response is the tricky bit.
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Old 07-25-2009, 11:50 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: BS1 Talking to the Dead.

Well I could talk to these KFC chicken bones!
Does that count as talking to the dead?

Well its more real than most of these silly people you see on the TV!
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Old 07-26-2009, 01:04 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: BS1 Talking to the Dead.

I don't think there is such thing as a soul, spirit, or ghost. After the brain can no longer be supported that's just it.

By the way, I have seen one of the B&T BS episodes, and it was pretty good. A little heavy on the foul language, but it was still interesting. I'll have to watch some more.
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Re: BS1 Talking to the Dead.

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By the way, I have seen one of the B&T BS episodes, and it was pretty good. A little heavy on the foul language, but it was still interesting. I'll have to watch some more.
They talk about that in the first episode. They say they do it because you can easily get sued for calling someone a liar, quack, idiot, con artist. But you can get sued for calling them an ahole or a mf or saying it is bs. The choice of language is a legal thing plus it probably helps with the ratings on Shotime. They originally wanted to call the show humbug which means the same thing as BS.
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Re: BS1 Talking to the Dead.

I voted maybe because we really don't know. I do know that people like Jon Edwards are just lieing and they should be thrown in jail for taking advantage of people.

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Well, talking to the dead is the easy part. Getting a response is the tricky bit.
Yeah, that's what I was implying. But you poll question asked if people can talk to the dead. I know I talk to the dead almost every day. I've never received a response back though.
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Yeah, that's what I was implying. But you poll question asked if people can talk to the dead. I know I talk to the dead almost every day. I've never received a response back though.
Right, the poll should have asked can the dead talk to anyone.
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Re: BS1 Talking to the Dead.

Royal Canadian Air Farce's parody of 'Most Haunted'.
This sums up my take on a lot of those T.V. shows.

I believe coincidence and preconceived notions account for some of the 'freaky things' which I have encountered, but honestly we are all connected to SOMETHING as Edgar Cayce proved on thousands of occasions.
It's cool -check it out !

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Re: BS1 Talking to the Dead.

Repost from another thread~~

This is actually a good subject. And since it's in the debate section I figured I will play the other side kinda. I think these people are fools, who use simple tricks on fragile minded people. I personally don't think you can talk to dead people as these people portray.

But for the sake of a debate why can't you talk to dead people, or spirits. We don't know much about death or what happens after. It brings up the question what is a soul? Do we really have a soul? And if we do have a soul, where does it go after our physical death? If we do have a soul, based on physics, and the law of conservation our soul was never destroyed after death, it simply converts to another form of energy.

Numerous cultures from around the world believe they can talk to spirits. Usually it's through a form of hallucinogens. I myself has sat in on an American Indian sweat due to a friends death, and have seen things that are unexplainable(I wasnt hallucinating).

I am just curious on people thoughts, and am trying to spark it up a bit.
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Re: BS1 Talking to the Dead.

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But for the sake of a debate why can't you talk to dead people, or spirits.
Maybe people can talk to the dead but the people in the video can't. I think Penn and Teller do a good job of discrediting them. The point about how dead relatives should be able to tell you thier names and not only the first letter is very damning imo.
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Re: BS1 Talking to the Dead.

I agree completly. These guys in the video, and others in the past that I have seen on tv are complete crap. It reminded me of something on RU... Taboo The Sixth Sense
It's a funny little game that all should check out if they havent allready. It's quite amazing how easily this can be done.
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my mom never let me rent that one, and one day i rented it with my babysitter, let me tell you i was pretty pissed when i played it.
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Re: BS1 Talking to the Dead.

Not in plain English, because it would be irrelevant. I'm very much under the impression that we DO still interact with aspects of people who have moved past the physical limitations of our bodies.
Honestly, when "everything" transcends into another "state", there is a completely new way of "Life". It would be like saying "Do you think you can choose "L" shaped tetris blocks in Mario Kart? ". Mario Kart doesn't use or need "L" shaped tetris blocks. Can playing a lot of tetris help you with Mario Kart, in some ways yes.

Everything goes somewhere, noting just disappears. I don't think it's a bunch of clouds and stuff like that. More scientific like Stephan Hawkins type dimensions that are parallel to ours.


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Mostly you just have to listen.
Really , is anybody out there , listening ?...
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You believe in talking to the dead?
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I don't have beliefs. I have understandings. More things go bump in the night that any of us can possibly imagine. Our gross sensory perception is sooo limited. If the whole electromagnetic spectrum (frequency) was placed on a two yard measure, out eyes only are capable of percieving 1/32th of one inch. Most think that the air around them is simply empty. Yet it is fourteen pounds per square inch. Approx 500-700 lbs on the front and back of one hand. That's not nothing. And we've been duped to believe that gross perception is the limitation of our scenses. Understanding the things around us has more to do with unlearning (cluttered minds and ridgidities) than learning. Behind the mind of the thoughtfield. The chemical pudding of grey matter in your head is very limited to produce origional thought. Most question we ask of ourselves or of the place we have in being are merly shadows of doubt for what is pressing and intuitive. Many, actually most, cultures far older and learned than ours in thier systems of higher wisdom and teaching are quite aware that our seven scenses can be refined far beyond their simple gross functions. To see is not to believe, to believe is to see.
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Whoa, that is one HUGE intimidating block of text.
Break it down for us next time by giving spaces every few lines or so.
Not to be a Nit Picker or anything, but I just thought you should know that sometimes a big block can deter people from reading what you wrote.

BTW,
You make some really interesting points and certainly many people may have their grey matter going right now, but be warned!
I have posted a lot of things up in the forum threads and I can say for certain that people will eventually ask for links to videos and other supporting materials.

Especially when you Klaxon Grenade like I have in the past.

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@ Guppy "Most think that the air around them is simply empty. Yet it is fourteen pounds per square inch. Approx 500-700 lbs on the front and back of one hand."

Not sure what you are talking about. Air-pressure? Frequencies we can't see? I understand the 1/32 inch part of the spectrum.
Please elaborate. It's interesting so far...
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Joe: that was the formatting problem I spoke of...
this should read better for all.....


I don't have beliefs. I have understandings.

More things go bump in the night that any of us can possibly imagine.
Our gross sensory perception is sooo limited.

If the whole electromagnetic spectrum (frequency) was placed on a two yard measure,
out eyes only are capable of percieving 1/32th of one inch.

Most think that the air around them is simply empty.
Yet it is fourteen pounds per square inch.
Approx 500-700 lbs on the front and back of one hand.
That's not nothing.

And we've been duped to believe that gross perception is the limitation of our scenses.

Understanding the things around us has more to do with unlearning
(cluttered minds and ridgidities) than learning.
Behind the mind of the thoughtfield.

The chemical pudding of grey matter in your head is very limited
to produce origional thought.

Most question we ask of ourselves or of
the place we have in being are merly shadows of doubt
for what is pressing and intuitive.

Many, actually most, cultures far older and learned
than ours in thier systems of higher wisdom and teaching
are quite aware that our seven scenses can be refined
far beyond their simple gross functions.

To see is not to believe, to believe is to see.

---------- Post added 09-25-2009 at 01:25 AM ---------- Previous post was 09-24-2009 at 11:40 PM ----------

Hopefully reads better, yet just now noticed that there is an edit option,
Later last night, I discovered the "go advanced" function.

Mr moderator, please forgive my double posting.

OldTimer: thanx for asking.


Air pressure at 14lbs per square inch is multiplied by surface area.
Conservatively measuring a hand at 6in long and 3in wide,
the math is: 3in x 6in x 2 sides x 14lbs/sq in. = 504,
not taking into account the area of coverage over the sides of the round fingers.
Many hands are larger than this, some smaller.
If you consider the surface area of your whole body, at sq in x 14,
That’s a LOT.

All matter has a place on the electromagnetic spectrum;
light (color spectrum), sound, resonance, electricity, magnetic,
your computer, florescent lights, cells in animals and plants,
minerals, gases, microwaves, radio waves, brain waves,
Shuman resonance, etc.

Some we see, hear and feel, (vibration that is perceivable),
most of it not, without the use of technological devices to measure it.

And technology is limited to a still small range at that.
All things in existence have this property. It is also known as frequency.

Many "see-ers" (clair-voyant) perceive movements in the infrared frequencies.
Many "listen-ers" (clair-audio) perceive frequencies much higher than audible range.
Many "feel-ers" (clair-sentient) perceive vibration at a very subtle level.

These are not mysteries. Anyone can learn to refine the senses.
An analogy could be made to fitness and athletic skills:
People born with it are called natural athletes.
Interest, training and perseverance leads them to excel.

Any individual, baring physical restrictions, or sickness,
can do a 10 km run with 3-4 months of proper training.

Such it is with perception (also known more commonly as intuition),
Some naturally able, some practice and excel, others can learn.

These are not "powers" or "giftings", simply inerhent potential
of these bodies we inhabit,
(skin bag, bone box, if you will).

The failing of these skill sets usually comes
when one attempts to make a living from them.
Athletes only profit from sponsorship.

Many people are posers and snake oil salesman.
Honesty, integrity, and discernment are quite elusive
in this modern society of over mediatisation and instant gratification
In a world of false economy,
we live in a buyer beware society.


Let me know what other points to elaborate.
This outline could be fleshed out in a volume.

90% of my knowledge base is from books,
articles, instructors, and my own practice.
I am a nerd, and a humanist.
Life, the universe, and everything beyond is my hobby.

Information is data bits.
Knowledge is the comparison and rationalization of that data.
Trined with action, application, and humanitarianism,
it becomes wisdom.

Still it is only a thing.

Human potential is awesome and profound.
One simply needs to pursue it if so inclined.

Thanx OldTimer. Hopes this gives you a starting point for my posting.
Thanx Joe. Let me know topics you would like links to,
I will research some.

On second thought, I think I've said enough.
Gave lots of ideas, and I like encouraging people to learn.
Knowledge is freedom.

Now, I'm going to find a game to play,
before I get back to more serious stuff.
(legal research, social justice, and maybe my dishes....)

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Hi Guppy welcome to RU. Hope you enjoy your stay.

On topic. I dont believe in being able to speak to the dead. I would hope that after death your soul (if there is one) would move onto a better place instead of playing host to parlor tricks designed to rip off my loved ones.

If you belive in Heaven and Hell then thats where the "ghosts" should be at. I would think that if seeing ghosts or talking to the dead was possible at all it would be at the time of that persons death when the soul leaves the body and has free range but after that it should move on.

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Hello Smittycal.
Thanx for the welcome.

Sounds like you have known someone that has been so missled.
I feel a bit that way about a previous Dr, and a previous lawyer, and that toyota corrola.

I'm not on board with the notion of heaven or hell as a destination,
nor that we go on to a better place. Talking to the dead, no, they don't talk.
Communicating yes, but why would you pay someone to do this for you.
That's like paying someone to eat you meal for you.

First word of wisdom:
There are the same amount of jerks "there" as there are "here".
Quite crowded, and quite expansive, but still interdimentional.
There are those of the divine, those of the elementals,
and those of birthed origins such as we.

In my obsevation some of us stay, some of us go.
This is muchly dependent on the ties we have
to individuals still earth dwelling, such as children and soul mates.
And of greater berring is whether we here continue to acknowledge them still.

You are always you. This body is your vehicle.
When you leave from this material compound,
it is much like removing your Jacket, and then you just carry on.

Where you "go" is dependent to a great extent of where you believe you will go.
If you take a trip, it is usually you who chooses the destination.
And if you don't know where your going, then... Surprise...

Many places, many dimentions, matterial and non matterial.
This is a passing, there is not death.
It quite the Great Adventure.

... to see is not to believe, to believe is to see ... Namaste.
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