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Old 05-02-2010, 02:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Win War Quick Schemes

Over my years I've heard several crazy tactics that have been used to win wars. Some of them are pretty interesting and funny. I just thought I'd make a topic to share some and hear some.

I've heard that in WW2 North Africa, the Germans considered driving over piles of camel poop to bring good luck. That's why American soldiers planted land mines under them.
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Re: Win War Quick Schemes

General Sherman encouraged white poachers to kill all buffalo because once the buffalo were extinct the Indians would have no way to live through the winter.
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One that actually worked, was during the siege of Stalingrad, the Soviet forces decided not to fight back intensely, but just hold steady until winter, which no one not accustomed to couldn't survive.
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Re: Win War Quick Schemes

I heard a rumor that in the civil war, Northerners would march in circles around forests to make Confederates think that there were way more soldiers than there actually were.
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Re: Win War Quick Schemes

That is true, and it worked.
I can't think of any odd strategies right now.
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Re: Win War Quick Schemes

The Russians' scorched earth policy against Napoleon's Grand Army. The Russians just burned everything they couldn't take with them and retreated until the French army was completely burnt out.

Also, about that camel dung trick DN mentioned? Apparently after a while, the Germans wised up and told their tank drivers not to run over camel dung. So the Allied soldiers made mines that looked like camel poop that had been run over by a tank.
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The Russians' scorched earth policy against Napoleon's Grand Army. The Russians just burned everything they couldn't take with them and retreated until the French army was completely burnt out.
This isn't exclusive to this conflict by any means, it's been done since the dawn of man probably. It's called a war of attrition. It's usually not desirable unless you are desperate or out to destroy your enemy.
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The Russians' scorched earth policy against Napoleon's Grand Army. The Russians just burned everything they couldn't take with them and retreated until the French army was completely burnt out.

Also, about that camel dung trick DN mentioned? Apparently after a while, the Germans wised up and told their tank drivers not to run over camel dung. So the Allied soldiers made mines that looked like camel poop that had been run over by a tank.
Maybe the German's idea for running over that camel dung was to find better footing for their tanks so they wouldn't be so likely to get stuck?
{the logic being that if the camel walked over that area, it's likely to be a safe place for the tank, too. Sort of using the animals' instincts to their advantage.}

About camouflage/ mimic {war} devices:
I once heard that as recently as the '90's things similar to this were done, but in a much more sinister way.

Emergency food packets being dropped into war torn towns and villages
{I forgot exactly where} were in a bright yellow plastic capsule, which looked almost identical to the bright yellow unexploded bomblets from the cluster bombs which had been recently used in the same area.
So
when a person, starving from the conditions their region has been left in by the conflict that rolled through it, finds what they think is an emergency food packet and goes to pick it up, the bomblet explodes, usually resulting in the person's death and possibly killing or injuring anyone nearby as well.

I think of the picture I saw of a young child killed by a bomblet, and can say that whoever came up with this idea was a very evil person.

Then I think of the TV show {years back when I used to watch TV}
'Modern Weapons', and the episode I saw where the guy is demonstrating a device which fit the damage pattern to that child perfectly, and I got a chill when he said 'That's cool' or something like that.

The point I'm trying to make is that these things are NOT cool; the John Wayne/ GI JOE propaganda machine tries to sell war and death as the way to rid the World of evil, but just look what happens when things like unexploded cluster bomb bomblets are introduced to the World.
yeah I know I'm ranting.

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One that actually worked, was during the siege of Stalingrad, the Soviet forces decided not to fight back intensely, but just hold steady until winter, which no one not accustomed to couldn't survive.
not exactly a win quick scheme...the battle of stalingrad was one of the costliest battles in terms of life in all of human history.

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Ok, but what about hiding weapons in unusual places? An umbrella could be used as a gun if somebody thought about it.
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Ok, but what about hiding weapons in unusual places? An umbrella could be used as a gun if somebody thought about it.
Okay, but how often are you out fighting when it's rainy?
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They can also be used as shade on a sunny day.
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They can also be used as shade on a sunny day.
Well sure, I guess it's just not "traditional". After a while you'd get kind of suspicious of people with umbrellas when it's 80 F out.
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let's look at how many russian defectors were killed via umbrella guns with poison pellets
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They can also be used as shade on a sunny day.

Well sure, I guess it's just not "traditional". After a while you'd get kind of suspicious of people with umbrellas when it's 80 F out.

That's a pretty common sight here in Vancouver, even when it's like 40C.
Could it be a Vancouverite tradition?

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Shhhh, you're not supposed to know about those kind of things.
They don't really exist {except in the minds of us Tinfoil Hat - Wearing Conspiracy Nuts} so you aren't supposed to talk about them.
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oh really? I've seen a ton of shows on the HIstory Channel and it's mentioned infrequently
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If a bunch of guys started using umbrellas as guns, wouldn't you just steer clear of or shoot guys with umbrellas?
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that's why there are so few with them
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Re: Win War Quick Schemes

Let's look back at history. The use of fire as a weapon was unconventional, but effective. The Battle of Red Bluffs, which the Kingdom of Wei lost due to fire attack, is a prime example. People thought that was weird back then, maybe not so much now.
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There was a [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potato_War"]Potato War[/ame]. Instead of fighting the soldiers ran around digging up potatoes to starve the other side.
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I'm familiar with that. That was ridiculous and didn't even work at all. All that led to was a very brisk confrontation.
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