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Old 05-31-2013, 07:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Wolfman's contest IV voting

My next contest will be a singles contest, and I need votes to figure how the contest will be played, I am planing on doing the part that you guys vote on in September with 10 rounds(3 days per round) where people compete for the high score and after this part is over having a double knockout in october

prizes will be given out to top 3 in both contests

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Old 06-01-2013, 12:25 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Okay, so. Dang kinda hate posting in these after my track record xD

Let me just state that a lot of issues I've had are computer related. That said more than likely building a new computer over the Summer in the 600-900 dollar range.

So, going to act as if I can participate in this, and if I'm stuck with this computer for a bit of it, I can play most games still hopefully. Snes & Arcade seem to cause my computer to launch a failsafe before it overheats or something... Not even sure...

Anyways. Kind of a make up rules on our own type of thing here? This reminds me of Marathon, which I loved as a contest, and love the prospect of this. Very keen on it.

Personally, would like a long contest of like 2 months that can be lenient to everyone's schedules.

Start in September. Mostly a personal thing relating to me hopefully having my new computer, but would give a lot of notice as well, which would be nice.

Judges are probably a good idea, but we already have people that generally watch through these masterys? so not sure it's entirely necessary.

Team drafts would be cool, I'd be for that, but open to whatever.

One master per game I would say is fair. I think we all have games we know like the back of our hands, and could breeze through real quick over and over again.

Each player can master same game, yes. Nice to not have games taken off the board just because others got them.
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Old 06-01-2013, 10:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Have second and third place prizes if you lessen the number of players per team, also some of the game masteries are really lame like Color A Dinosaur - Nintendo Entertainment System, so I don't know if you'd really want to count those and would you count mastery or finnishing a game that has an actual ending?
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Old 06-03-2013, 12:07 AM   #4 (permalink)
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i kind of want bigger teams this time around if we can't then i might do tag teams again, and with the judges or other teams giving the scores per games, games like color the dinosaur might get your team 1 point or so.
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Old 06-03-2013, 12:36 AM   #5 (permalink)
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re: Wolfman's contest IV voting

2 months

Bonus points
Bonus for clearing an entire series of games. Series is two or more games that are enabled in score mode and belong to the same franchise - spin offs. Example, Donkey Kong, DK Jr. and DK 3 are a series but DK Country is a spin off and a separate series. For the bonus you only need one version of each game. Example you do not have to be DK on Atari, NES and Arcade. One of them is enough.

Bonus for clearing all versions of a game.

Bonus point for being the first person to clear a game.

Bonus points if more than one person clears a game, and we track speed runs in the game (sram disabled) and you are the fastest.


Scoring. One of these 2 options.
1. Panel of 3 judges that are not in the contest vote on the point value that each clear should be worth. Min 1. Max 100. Add scores together.

2. Each game is worth a total of 100 points. Each person that clears that game shares those points evenly. So if you are the only person to beat Final Fantasy then you receive 100/1 = 100 points. If 20 people beat Color a Dinosaur then each one of them gets 100/20 = 5 points.

I'd vote for #2 but #1 is good too. (both ideas were Wolf's. He sent me the second one in PM.)


Teams - depends on how many people sign up.
If teams then there can be another bonus when everyone on a team clears the same game.
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Old 06-03-2013, 12:40 AM   #6 (permalink)
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number 1 was actually steven cassidy and I were chatting and I believe he threw that idea at me.
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Old 06-03-2013, 01:08 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I'd prefer number 2, it seems to be a more objective way of distributing point. Also, perhaps you could do a combination of both one and two, where someone decides the total worth of a game and then distribute the points among the people who cleared the game.
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Old 06-03-2013, 01:16 AM   #8 (permalink)
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re: Wolfman's contest IV voting

yeah we could do that

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but #2 should we do it that if you are the 1st you get the max amount points and so on, for example game is worth 50 points, 1st gets 50, 2nd get half of that, 3rd gets 1/3 of 50, and so on, or everyone gets the same amount if max is 50 and 10 people clear it they all get 5 points.
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Old 06-03-2013, 01:23 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I'd say an equa distribution, at least for sram games where you could be very close to the end and just submit that when the contest starts for more points.
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Equal distribution adds extra strategy. You can choose games that both give you points and steal points from another team.
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Old 06-03-2013, 03:16 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Equal distribution adds extra strategy. You can choose games that both give you points and steal points from another team.
That, I really like the idea of equal distribution, it ads the strategy element and it will give time to all the players to play the most in the more convenient days of the contest (instead of favoring the ones that have more free time in the beginning of the contest).
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This might be a bit of a can of worms, but I think a list of games would be better then a free-for-all.
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Agreed with cassidy
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I would certainly prefer having more varity in what to play, if there was a list you might as well just call this game club.
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me too it will give players a chance to play games they want to play.
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I'm fine wither way, but the restriction might suck. Maybe if each player involved chose like 5 games or so again? Maybe more to throw a lot of games into the mix still.

2 Teams might be the way to go as well to have it more competitive.
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My issue is that searching out all the Color a Dinosaurs and Big Bird Hide and Speaks doesn't sound like fun.
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This will prevent Color a Dinosaur type abuse.

Judges = 3 Mods that are not in the contest.
Scoring = Each time a new game is cleared the 3 judges vote on a scale of 1 - 1,000 how difficult they think the game is. The game is worth the total of all 3 votes. So each game will be worth between 3 and 3,000 points.
Each team that clears that game splits all of those points.

So Color A Dinosaur would be worth a total of 3 divided by each team that cleared it. If 4 teams beat it, then they don't even get 1 point each.

With that scoring system it would take a hundred easy clears to equal one moderate which seems fair to me.
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This will prevent Color a Dinosaur type abuse.

Judges = 3 Mods that are not in the contest.
Scoring = Each time a new game is cleared the 3 judges vote on a scale of 1 - 1,000 how difficult they think the game is. The game is worth the total of all 3 votes. So each game will be worth between 3 and 3,000 points.
Each team that clears that game splits all of those points.

So Color A Dinosaur would be worth a total of 3 divided by each team that cleared it. If 4 teams beat it, then they don't even get 1 point each.

With that scoring system it would take a hundred easy clears to equal one moderate which seems fair to me.
Sounds good.
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re: Wolfman's contest IV voting

Okay given we use this system, what would a game like Donkey Kong, a game of similar difficulty, be rated?
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Old 06-04-2013, 12:20 AM   #21 (permalink)
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re: Wolfman's contest IV voting

if we do it number divided by team clears, if a game is worth 100 and 4 teams cleared it and 4 people on your team cleared it your team will get 100 points?
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re: Wolfman's contest IV voting

I'd divide it and everyone would get a share.

example: Kong/wolf/steven/elod are on a team.

elrod and kong are the only ones to clear 'donkey kong'

then each would get 50 so team would get 100 points.

HOWEVER...

What about a team bonus? Like if only your team clears a preselected game and it's onl your team, what about a 20 point bonus?

OR what about if you clear it first your team gets a 5 point bonus?
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re: Wolfman's contest IV voting

Just running with some ideas here, some may have already been submitted.


  • Since this is team based there should be incentive (imho) for the team to clear.
    • A clear per person should be worth a point, but for the team, it should be worth whatever the point allocation for that game is (plus individual points).
  • All members who clear a game first receive a bonus
  • If a member clears all the games they receive the total from all the games. If multiple members clear that total is multiplied by x players who cleared all games.
    • Bonus points for x number of games cleared. If 20 games available at 10 bonus at 15 bonus and 20 grand bonus.
  • Pink slips: players can place a bet that they will clear a game with another member of their team or entire team. If that fails, points deducted. If succeeded bonus points are given.
  • Maybe some sort of rank bonus. If entire team has the top x spots a bonus is given.
Thats all i can think of for now. I'm tired.

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re: Wolfman's contest IV voting

The points for each game would be determined by the 3 judges which will come up with different numbers but I would think
Color a Dinosaur = 1 point
Donkey Kong = 50 points
X-Men Arcade = 900 points

I was thinking each team can only get credit for each game once. So team mates would never play the same game.

But it also might be fun if team mates were encouraged to all play the same game and then they could share strategies and work together etc.
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I think you'd have to disallow SRAM games. It is possible some members here have a lot of games where they are saved right at the end and could quickly clear games without much effort.
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