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Old 11-17-2013, 10:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Choosing 2014 Gaming Champ Games

Post any games you think should be added to this list and post any reason you think a game should be removed from the list.

Classic Examples of the genre in (parentheses).
  1. Speed Run 1 (Fastest Clear Time) -
  2. Sports -
  3. Racing -
  4. Run'N Jump (SMB or Sonic) -
  5. Golden Age Arcade (Coin-op game from 1979-1983) -
  6. Beatemup (Double Dragon) = OSman - Arcade/Coin-Op
  7. Vs. Fighter (Street Fighter) = Double Dragon: Neo Geo - Arcade/Coin-Op
  8. Fixed Shooter (Galaga) - Cosmo Gang the Video - Arcade/Coin-Op
  9. Caravan Shooter (Shoot'em Up with short timer) - Final Soldier Special Version - Turbo Grafx-16
  10. Paddle (Break Out) = Gunbarich - Arcade/Coin-Op
  11. Falling Block (Tetris) - Monster Slider - Arcade/Coin-Op
  12. Adventure (Zelda) = Flashback: The Quest for Identity - Sega Genesis
  13. Pinball - Crue Ball - Sega Genesis
5 games to go.


Speed Run - required: Cleared in one session. Time to clear varies greatly depending on skill. Desired: most people can clear them.

Arkista's Ring - Nintendo Entertainment System

These next two are very difficult. Cons: Most people wont clear them. Pros: For the people that can clear them, the time spread will be large and accurately reflect skill.
Out of This World - Super Nintendo - If this game is added I might remove Flashback from the list above.
Battletoads - Nintendo Entertainment System - If this game is added I might remove Osman from the list above.

Sports
Blockbuster Competition 2: NBA Jam And Judge Dredd - Sega Genesis
Heavy Smash: Future Sports - Arcade/Coin-Op - Score Board

Racing
RC Pro-am 2
Ironman Stewart's Super Off Road - Arcade/Coin-Op
Lethal Crash Race - Arcade/Coin-Op
Antarctic Adventure - ColecoVision
Enduro Racer - Arcade/Coin-Op
Turbo Out Run - Arcade/Coin-Op
Micro Machines 2: Turbo Tournament - Sega Genesis
Micro Machines Turbo Tounament '96 - Sega Genesis
Micro Machines - Nintendo Entertainment System
Racing Hero - Arcade/Coin-Op
Chase HQ - Turbo Grafx-16
Championship Pro Am - Sega Genesis
Masked Riders Club Battle Race - Arcade/Coin-Op
Power Drift - Arcade/Coin-Op
F Zero - Super Nintendo
Lethal Crash Race - Arcade/Coin-Op

Run N Jump / Platformer
Whizz - Super Nintendo
Super Ninja Kid, BS - Super Nintendo
Ninja Kid 2 - Arcade/Coin-Op
Flicky - Sega Genesis
Magical Crystals - Arcade/Coin-Op
Dashin' Desperadoes - Sega Genesis


Golden Age Arcade
Anteater » Coin Op
Asteroids - Arcade/Coin-Op
Bubble Bobble - Arcade/Coin-Op
Burger Time - Arcade/Coin-Op
Chicken Shift - Arcade/Coin-Op
Dig Dug - Arcade/Coin-Op
Donkey Kong - Arcade/Coin-Op
Donkey Kong Junior - Arcade/Coin-Op
Gorf - Arcade/Coin-Op
Hyper Pacman » Coin Op
Joinem » Coin Op
Lady Bug » Coin Op
Ms Pac Man - Arcade/Coin-Op
Pac Man Plus - Arcade/Coin-Op
Pengo » Coin Op
Pepper 2 » Coin Op
Super Pang - Arcade/Coin-Op
Swimmer - Arcade/Coin-Op
Track & Field - Arcade/Coin-Op


The suggestions that didn't make the cut.
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Chase
Hyper Pacman - Arcade/Coin-Op
Pac Mania - Arcade/Coin-Op
Binary Land - Nintendo Entertainment System
Pac-Mania


Beat'Em Up
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Turtles in Time - Arcade/Coin-Op
Hagane: The Final Conflict - Super Nintendo
Streets of Rage 2 - Arcade/Coin-Op - Score Board
Final Fight - Arcade/Coin-Op - Score Board
Warriors of Fate - Arcade/Coin-Op - Score Board
Michael Jackson's MoonWalker - Arcade/Coin-Op - Score Board
Dynasty Wars - Arcade/Coin-Op
Battletoads In Ragnarok's World - Nintendo Game Boy - Score Board
Ninja Baseball Batman - Arcade/Coin-Op - Score Board
Spider Man and Venom: Maximum Carnage - Sega Genesis - Score Board
Sengoku Denshou 2 - Arcade/Coin-Op
Dungeons & Dragons: Tower of Doom - Arcade/Coin-Op


Puzzle
Flipull An Exciting Cube Game - Nintendo Entertainment System - Score Board
Loopz - Nintendo Entertainment System
Mysterious Stones: Dr John's Adventure - Arcade/Coin-Op
Solomon's Key - Arcade/Coin-Op - Score Board
Anteater - Arcade/Coin-Op
Risky Challenge - Arcade/Coin-Op
Tinkle Pit - Arcade/Coin-Op
Star Sweep - Arcade/Coin-Op
Risky Challenge - Arcade/Coin-Op





Shooter
Blade Buster - Nintendo Entertainment System
Space Harrier - Arcade/Coin-Op
Star Force - Arcade/Coin-Op
Space Invaders '95: Attack Of The Lunar Loonies - Arcade/Coin-Op
Gun Smoke - Arcade/Coin-Op
Commando - Arcade/Coin-Op
Detana!! Twinbee - Turbo Grafx-16
Gradius - Turbo Grafx-16
R Type Leo * - Arcade/Coin-Op
Gunlock - Arcade/Coin-Op
Smash TV - Arcade/Coin-Op
Dynamite Duke - Arcade/Coin-Op
Lethal Enforcers - Arcade/Coin-Op
Lethal Enforcers 2: Gun Fighters - Sega Genesis


Marble Madness - Arcade/Coin-Op
Marble Madness - Arcade/Coin-Op


Run'N Gun
Rush'n Attack - Arcade/Coin-Op
Wild West COWBoys of Moo Mesa - Arcade/Coin-Op


Olympic
Combat School - Arcade/Coin-Op - Score Board

Fighter
Karate Champ - Arcade/Coin-Op
Street Fighter Alpha: Warriors' Dreams - Arcade/Coin-Op
Street Fighter 2: Champion Edition - Arcade/Coin-Op
Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story - Sega Genesis
Double Dragon: Neo Geo - Arcade/Coin-Op
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Tournament Fighters - Super Nintendo

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Re: Choosing 2014 Gaming Champ Games

Cosmo Gang for the shooter. Galaga fans will like it. Risk reward players will like it. And it has powerups.
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How is Super Bishi Bashi a puzzle game?
Isn't Risky challenge pretty similar to New Zealand story?
Isn't Binary Land more of a puzzle game? The objective is to meet both characters together through some sort of maze.

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Toypop
The Amazing Maze game
Old 11-18-2013, 03:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
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It wasn't supposed to be in there. Deleted.

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Isn't Risky challenge pretty similar to New Zealand story?
Not at all. I think you are thinking of Risky Woods - Sega Genesis

It has a lot more puzzle to it than a typical Tetris clone though. Might should be replaced with something more standard like Monster Slider or Star Sweep - Arcade/Coin-Op


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I think it fits in the same category as Pac Man. Navigate a maze collecting items while baddies chase you.
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For Binary Land you only need to collect keys and similar stuff. You're really just trying to guide the navis to the heart. Also, the enemies are pretty static most of the time, like all of the spiders.

How about adding Tower of Druaga - Coin-Op?
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I've updated the first post. Scroll up, read it and comment please.

I need help picking the final 5 games.
  1. Speed Run 1 (Fastest Clear Time) -
  2. Sports -
  3. Racing -
  4. Run'N Jump (Like SMB, Sonic or Bonk) -
  5. Golden Age Arcade (Coin-op game from 1979-1983) -
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I've updated the first post. Scroll up, read it and comment please.

I need help picking the final 5 games.
  1. Speed Run 1 (Fastest Clear Time) -
  2. Sports -
  3. Racing -
  4. Run'N Jump (Like SMB, Sonic or Bonk) -
  5. Golden Age Arcade (Coin-op game from 1979-1983) -
1.Super Bomberman - Super Nintendo
2. NBA Hoopz - Nintendo Game Boy Color - Score Board
3. Bump 'n' Jump - Nintendo Entertainment System
or Bump 'n' Jump - Arcade/Coin-Op
4. Super Mario Bros Deluxe - Nintendo Game Boy Color
or Super Mario Land 3 Wario Land - Nintendo Game Boy
5. I got nothing
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1. Wardner - Coin Op
2. Ping Pong - Coin Op
3, Stocker - Coin Op
4. Magical Crystals - Arcade/Coin-Op
5. Wonder Boy » Coin Op
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I second Stocker for a racing game but Wonder Boy came out in 86 and I'd really like to see a game from the Golden Age. How about Satan's Hollow - Arcade/Coin-Op. Dig Dug or Xevious would also be cool picks. RU has many versions of these two games. More options would be Gorf, Galaxian, DK, Robotron, Joust, Defender, Asteroids Deluxe, Time Pilot, Space Invaders, Galaga. So many cool games from that era to chose from.

Sports games are more difficult to come up with a good one for competition purposes but I'll try and come up with a suggestion.

For speed run, are you looking for something with an in game counter or just something that can be cleared and the ref will count frames?

---------- Post added at 02:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:55 PM ----------

Here's a sports game that at least has a scoring system other than biggest blowout. 10 Yard Fight - Arcade/Coin-Op - Score Board. I've never played this game before but I have heard of it.
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I second Stocker for a racing game but Wonder Boy came out in 86 and I'd really like to see a game from the Golden Age. How about Satan's Hollow - Arcade/Coin-Op. Dig Dug or Xevious would also be cool picks. RU has many versions of these two games. More options would be Gorf, Galaxian, DK, Robotron, Joust, Defender, Asteroids Deluxe, Time Pilot, Space Invaders, Galaga. So many cool games from that era to chose from.

Sports games are more difficult to come up with a good one for competition purposes but I'll try and come up with a suggestion.

For speed run, are you looking for something with an in game counter or just something that can be cleared and the ref will count frames?

---------- Post added at 02:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:55 PM ----------

Here's a sports game that at least has a scoring system other than biggest blowout. 10 Yard Fight - Arcade/Coin-Op - Score Board. I've never played this game before but I have heard of it.
I like the idea of Robotron.
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Speed Run. We will use the emulation time from Game Load to F12 Submission.

Should be a game that can be cleared in one session. Ideally around 30-60 minutes but that is flexible. Should offer a wide range run time depending on skills. Ideally most people can clear it but only a master can clear it fast.

Sports. I think a fast action team ball game would be best, such as Football, Soccer, Basketball. Ideally the score system is not the spread and the range of scores is great. Most sports games such as NBA Jam have a poor score system for competition.

Tecmo Super Bowl is biggest blowout score but I think it should be changed to total score or total yardage over a season. That would mean deleting existing scores, enabling SRAM and would make it a very long game. Would probably be 20 hours to submit one score.

Both of these are sport-like and have a real score systems. I think they are the best suggestions so far.
Blockbuster Competition 2: NBA Jam And Judge Dredd - Sega Genesis
Heavy Smash: Future Sports - Arcade/Coin-Op - Score Board

Run n Jump - I'm leaning towards Whizz - Super Nintendo or Ninja Kid 2 - Arcade/Coin-Op

Racing and Golden Age Arcade - You guys are on your own. Try to come to a consensus together. If there is no consensus then on Xmas day I will let the leaders of the 2013 contest choose games for these 2 categories. The Micro Machine games wont work. Poor score system.
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Agreed, Robotron much better than Wonderboy. Satans hollow good also
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Tecmo Super Bowl is biggest blowout score but I think it should be changed to total score or total yardage over a season. That would mean deleting existing scores, enabling SRAM and would make it a very long game. Would probably be 20 hours to submit one score.
I suggest Tecmo Bowl instead. I've beaten it myself multiple times (actually every system) and it takes about 3 hours.
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Tails you missed my point.

I was suggesting TSB for sports category, not Speed Run.

TSB scores are currently biggest blowout. I suggest we change it to most total score. I don't know about all versions but in at least Genesis that is across 3 seasons. It makes for a much more accurate score system but also an intensely long game. 3 seasons is probably over 50 hours. Too long for this contest. If one of the other ports is only one season then it might work for this.
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Tails you missed my point.

I was suggesting TSB for sports category, not Speed Run.

TSB scores are currently biggest blowout. I suggest we change it to most total score. I don't know about all versions but in at least Genesis that is across 3 seasons. It makes for a much more accurate score system but also an intensely long game. 3 seasons is probably over 50 hours. Too long for this contest. If one of the other ports is only one season then it might work for this.
I didn't. :P

What I mean is, to fully beat the "game/season" (there is only 1) it takes roughly 3 hours. Not saying speed run as speed run doesn't really matter here.
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Arkista's Ring is perfect for speed running. That was a great idea, Konger.

I would second DBCooper's nomination of Gorf.
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For Golden Age I suggest Super Pang or Bubble Bobble, I personally really enjoy both games. I really like panic mode on Super Pang.
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Pinball
Crue Ball - Sega Genesis
or skip this genre?


Sports
Heavy Smash: Future Sports - Arcade/Coin-Op
or skip this genre?


Run'N Jump (SMB or Sonic)
Whizz - Super Nintendo
or Ninja Kid 2 - Arcade/Coin-Op
or Magical Crystals - Arcade/Coin-Op

Beatemup (Double Dragon)
OSman - Arcade/Coin-Op Points
or speed run Battletoads - Nintendo Entertainment System

Adventure (Zelda)
Flashback: The Quest for Identity - Sega Genesis Points
or speed run Out of This World - Super Nintendo


Golden Age Arcade (Coin-op game from 1979-1983)
Anteater - Arcade/Coin-Op
or I, Robot - Arcade/Coin-Op
or Dig Dug - Arcade/Coin-Op
or Super Pang - Arcade/Coin-Op
or Swimmer - Arcade/Coin-Op
or Pepper 2 - Arcade/Coin-Op
or Pengo - Arcade/Coin-Op

Racing - Stocker - Arcade/Coin-Op
or Ironman Stewart's Super Off Road - Arcade/Coin-Op
or Lethal Crash Race - Arcade/Coin-Op
or Road Rash 3 - Sega Genesis
or Chase HQ - Arcade/Coin-Op
or F Zero 2, BS - Super Nintendo
or Badlands - Arcade/Coin-Op
or Vs Excitebike - Arcade/Coin-Op
or Uniracers - Super Nintendo


Speak now or forever hold your peace:

Paddle (Break Out) = Gunbarich - Arcade/Coin-Op
Fixed Shooter (Galaga) = Cosmo Gang the Video - Arcade/Coin-Op
Caravan Shooter (Shoot'em Up with short timer) = Final Soldier Special Version - Turbo Grafx-16
Falling Block (Tetris) = Monster Slider - Arcade/Coin-Op
Vs. Fighter (Street Fighter) = Double Dragon: Neo Geo - Arcade/Coin-Op
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Kong battletoads nes can't be fished
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Kong battletoads nes can't be fished
Why is that?
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I'm pretty sure there is a glitch in one of the levels that makes it impossible to progress past a certain point.
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Isn't that just on 2 player?
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Black scren on water surfing level I believe.
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Personally I think Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles for the NES should be used as the speed run game. It's extremely challenging but well rewarded if you can beat it. It takes patience and understanding of the levels and their layout. No one, I repeat no one will beat it on their first try.

But as a challenging side scroller it is a lot of fun to blast your way through and beat the game.
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TMNT for NES is definitely not suited for speed running. It has a ton of randomization, including enemy spawns and item pickups. The worst part is the Technodrome boss, which has a random chance of appearing in one of several different locations in level 5. If it doesn't appear, you waste several minutes going somewhere else and hope it spawns there.
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