3DS Members List

[Kugyince]

Key:
Bold - Member Name
Underlined - System Code
Italicized - Games

Bluej
3952-7012-5223
Bust-a-Move
Lego Star Wars
Super Street Fighter
Monkey Ball

Brawl
3308-5556-3031
Kid Icarus Uprising
Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon
Animal Crossing New Leaf
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Gates to Infinity
Super Mario 3D Land

Cameron
1032-1338-2069
Bust A Move Universe
Chronicles: Samurai Warriors
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
Mario Kart 7
New Super Mario Bros. 2

ChrisP
5026-4539-5755
Super Street Fighter IV: 3D Edition
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
LEGO Pirates of the Caribbean: The Video Game
Mario Kart 7
Super Mario 3D Land
StarFox 64 3D
Resident Evil: Revelations
Tales of the Abyss
Heroes of Ruin
Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance
Paper Mario: Sticker Star
New Super Mario Bros. 2
Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon
Animal Crossing: New Leaf
Mario & Luigi: Dream Team
Pokemon X
Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
Rune Factory 4
Bravely Default
Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS

Demon-Mask
3239-3197-7243
Animal Crossing: New Leaf
Super Mario 3D Land

Dudebro - schminda
2363-6239-9204
Mario Kart 7
Animal Crossing: New Leaf
Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS

Gamenguru
4339-2479-8852
Ghost Recon - Shadow Wars
LEGO Star Wars III - The Clone Wars
Asphalt 3D

Katzy
4012-7120-1120
Animal Crossing: New Leaf

Krendall
1805-2376-4460
Kid Icarus: Uprising
Mario Kart 7
Pokémon X
Super Mario 3D Land
Super Smash Bros. 3DS
Super Street Fighter IV: 3D Edition

Ninjatiamat
1289-8376-0652
Super Mario 3D Land
Mario Kart 7
Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D
Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater 3D
Kid Icarus: Uprising

pieman124
0216-0811-3805
Monkeyball
Nintendogs
Super Street Fighter IV
Super Mario 3D Land
Pokemon Rumble Blast
Mario Kart 7
Pilotwings
Cartoon Network: Punchtime Explosion
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D

Psimaster - Brendan
1907-8956-9168
Pokemon X
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity

Razeluxe - Raze
0147 0446 8843
Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS
Fantasy Life
Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millennium Girl
Mario & Luigi: Dream Team


SameJamesBond - SJB
0662 - 5154 - 1958
Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS


Seahawk
1805-2337-2180
Kid Icarus: Uprising
Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon

Squall - Paul
1762-3766-4002
LEGO Star Wars III
Super Street Fighter IV
Kid Icarus: Uprising
Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
Mario Kart 7
Super Mario 3D Land
Theatrhythm: FF
Super Pokemon Rumble
Tales of the Abyss
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Overclocked
Pokemon Y

StarFoxFan2009
5257-9987-6096
Pokemon Y

Steven Cassidy
0430-8274-9894
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
Ridge Racer 3D
Super Street Fighter IV
Cave Story 3D
Steel Diver
Tales of the Abyss
Mario Kart 7
Super Mario 3D Land
Blazblue: Continuum Shift 2
Kid Icarus Uprising
Cubic Ninja
Heroes of Ruin
New Super Mario Bros. 2
Nintendogs and Cats
Code of Princess
Fire Emblem Awakening
Pokemon X

Supernintendosp
0834-2080-9683
Pilot Wings Resort
Mario Kart 7
Super Street Fighter IV: 3D Edition

Tails
4425-1582-0548
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
Sonic Generations
Epic Mickey: Castle of Illusion
Code of Princess
Pokemon X
Pokemon Y
Legend of Zelda: A Link between Worlds

Tenser
3909-7510-3129
Ridge Racer 3D
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
Gabrielle's Ghostly Groove 3D
Shinobi
Doctor Lautrec and the Forgotten Knights
Kid Icarus: Uprising
Rhythm Thief & the Emperor's Treasure
Heroes of Ruin
Code of Princess
Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward
Adventure Time: Hey Ice King! Why'd You Steal Our Garbage?
Unchained Blades
Etrian Odyssey IV: Legends of the Titan
Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner - Soul Hackers
Project X Zone
Professor Layton & the Miracle Mask
Etrian Odyssey Untold: Millenium Girl
Rune Factory 4
Pokemon X
Adventure Time: Explore the Dungeon Because I Don't Know!
Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
Senran Kagura Burst
Professor Layton and the Azran Legacy
Conception II: Children of the Seven Stars
Mario Golf: World Tour
Kirby Triple Deluxe
New Super Mario Bros. 2
Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold: Knight of Fafnir
Pokemon Alpha Sapphire
Story of Seasons
Bravely Default
Harvest Moon: Tale of Two Towns
Lord of Magna: Maiden Heaven

Winnebagel
0344-9284-6935
Asphalt
Bust-A-Move
Cave Story
Green Lantern
Kid Icarus: Uprising
Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Lego Batman 2: DC Superheroes
Lego Pirates of the Carribean
Lego Star Wars III
Mario Kart 3DS
Mario Tennis Open
Monkeyball
Pilotwings
Resident Evil: Revelations
Ridge Racer
Samurai Warriors
Spider-Man: Edge of Time
SSF IV
Star Fox
Tales of the Abyss
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Shadow Wars
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell 3D
Thor



yoshi_star
3652-0542-3515
Sims 3
Resident Evil: Mercenaries 3D
Pokemon Rumble Blast
Skylanders: Spyros adventure
Cave Story 3D
Nintendogs and cats
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Shadow Wars
Lego Star Wars 3
Tetris Axis
Bust-a-move Universe
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games
Metal Gear Solid: Snake Easter
Mario Tennis Open

[Seahawk]

Excellent FAQ, it pretty much sums up everything known about the device so far. If I may suggest, I think you should include a single picture of the unit in your post, or link to them.

[Kugyince]

Forgot to cite my source:
Feature: The Ultimate 3DS FAQ - Official Nintendo Magazine (http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/article.php?id=18114)

[TrakMastaTom]

OK, so we have all this info on this thing. I want to know when I can buy it and how much.

[Slime Slayer]

"Nintendo has already announced a list of 74 games that are currently in development for the 3DS."

"...it'll just download automatically to your DS the next time it finds a Wi-Fi connection. Imagine starting up a Smash Bros game, for example, and getting a message saying "A new challenger appears!", and realise it's downloaded a brand new character."


74 games... holy crap!!!! And I can't wait to crack open my 3DS some night and see my game has magically grown.
I think I'll be camping out for this one, I've never camped out for anything before.

[Kugyince]

This will be the first thing I've ever pre-ordered.

[Slime Slayer]

I would pre order but camping out with 50-100 other turds with their ds lights sounds like a really fun night of gaming. Remember this guy, lol maybe he will be in line:
YouTube - The Funniest Nerd Waiting In line For Nintendo Wii

[Demon-Mask]

The screens from Metal Gear Solid 3, look even better than the game ever looked on my PS2, I will at some point have to get myself one of these, though I'll probably have to sell a kidney on the black market to get the money.

[TrakMastaTom]

I went to a Target at 4AM to wait in line for a Wii. It was pretty awesome.

[Kugyince]

http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/20100618.jpg

[Tails]

Lmfao

[samejamesbond]

Nice find Tenser.

[Slime Slayer]

Third guy in is trying to see in the crack of toad's diaper actually.

[nikegirl2012]

I hadn't bought a DS but 3DS sounds excellent... sort of... just one question... it has backward compatibility with DS... but does it have backward compatibility with the older gameboy games? I have a box full of gb, gbc, gba games that I'd really like to be able to play without having to carry around my gba

[samejamesbond]

It would be nice, but I doubt it.

Beacuse it has two slots and the new games for the 3DS are different, the extra slot is for the
DS. But at least a GBA can't be too expensive nowadays.

[Seahawk]

I hadn't bought a DS but 3DS sounds excellent... sort of... just one question... it has backward compatibility with DS... but does it have backward compatibility with the older gameboy games?

No. I wouldn't expect anything in the future to support GB/GBC/GBA games ever again.

[samejamesbond]

Well, it could have downloadable games like on the DSi.

[Kugyince]

It has an SD card slot, about 3 months after release there'll be a GBA emulator for it.

[nikegirl2012]

oh well.. still pretty cool

[Kugyince]

YouTube - [E3 2010] Developer's Interview - Hideo Kojima

YouTube - [E3 2010] Developer's Interview - Jeremiah Slaczka

YouTube - [E3 2010] Developer's Interview - Karthik Bala

[Seahawk]

1up posted an article today revealing some specs about the 3DS.

Nintendo 3DS Graphics Chip Revealed, Specifications Inside (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3180008)

Although there is still no word on the CPU or memory size, the GPU tech has been revealed. It is a Digital Media Professionals PICA 200 chip.


Frame buffer: Maximum 4095x4095 pixels
Pixel format: RGBA4444, RGB565, RGBA5551, RGBA8888
Vertex program (ARB_vertex_program)
Render to texture
Mipmap
Bilinear texture filtering
Alpha blending
Full-scene antialiasing (2x2)
Polygon offset
8-bit stencil buffer
24-bit depth buffer
Single/Double/Triple buffer
Vertex performance: Maximum 15.3M polygons/sec (at 200MHz)
Pixel performance: Maximum 800M pixels/sec (at 200MHz)
DMP MAESTRO technology: per-pixel lighting, procedural texture, refraction mapping, subdivision primitive, shadow, gaseous object rendering

Here's a flyer for said GPU (5MB .pdf):
http://www.dmprof.com/release/leaflet_PICA200_en.pdf

15.3 M polygons per second
For comparison,
Gamecube: 20.25 M polygons per second
PS2: 18.75 M polygons per second
Xbox: 29.125 M polygons per second

Pixel Fillrate: 800 M per second
Gamecube: 648 M/sec
PS2: 2.352 billion/sec
Xbox: 932 M/sec

[CrispyChicken]

Very nice FAQ. I can't wait to get the 3DS now!

[Slime Slayer]

So is that good?

[Seahawk]

It is quite a step up from the original DS, which is limited to only 2048 poloygons and has no true framebuffer.

There are also more options for pixels' colors, the original DS's only pixel format is 6 bits each for red, green, and blue components, giving 262,144 possible colors.
The new DS gives different modes that take up less graphic memory, or you can go all out and give each pixel 8 bit resolution + an 8 bit alpha component, for 16.8 million colors, plus more with alpha enabled.

Many more graphics operations are supported by the hardware, and probably in a much nicer way than in the standard DS. A 4095x4095 size framebuffer is pretty large for a screen thats only 400x240.

Even without knowing the CPU, the graphics performace is pretty close to last gen systems.

[Demon-Mask]

Even without knowing the CPU, the graphics performace is pretty close to last gen systems.
It almost seems the graphics will be better, seeing as the original DS could use the processors devoted to each screen on just one screen to produce amazing graphics at times, I'm sure this one can do the same.

[Seahawk]

It almost seems the graphics will be better, seeing as the original DS could use the processors devoted to each screen on just one screen to produce amazing graphics at times, I'm sure this one can do the same.

The DS does not have a processor assigned to each screen, both screens are controlled entirely by a single CPU, the ARM9. Consequently most game code is also executed on the ARM9.

The other CPU, the ARM7, handles sound output, touch screen input, and wireless communications.

Technical details aside, it certainly seems that the demos for 3DS look equal or slightly higher than last gen systems, but remember that these are demos, they could be pre-rendered graphics.

[Demon-Mask]

Oh, I remember now, the one processor had to be divided between two screens, and by using all of the power on one screen, the DS could execute better graphics.

[Seahawk]

It the game you are talking about has 3D polygon graphics, then yes, because by design the DS can only output 3D to a single screen at a time. 2D graphics are composed of a typical tilemap/sprite system, and can be done simulatenously on both screens.

This is a problem that is more noticable in early DS games (Final Fantasy III, Megaman ZX) in which the bottom screen is either blank or displays some non-moving artwork.

[Demon-Mask]

Actually FF III was the game I was thinking of. I realized something was "off" about the way the graphics were presented, especially in the intro movie. When I saw it, I looked it up.

[Seahawk]

The intro movie is likely a pre-rendered movie, although it is also possible the programmers could have been using the system at full power since there is no collision detection, math calculation or other things that happen during normal gameplay. In DS world, after all the 3D rendering is complete, the final result is output as a background layer, and can be displayed above or below the other 2D layers.

If you're interested, here is a very techincal document on the specs of the GBA and DS.

GBA/DS Specifications (http://nocash.emubase.de/gbatek.htm)

[Tails]

There's something more technical than Seahawk?

[Seahawk]

There's something more technical than Seahawk?

If you understand that document then you should be able to write your own GBA programs like I did =P. DS stuff is out of my league because code cannot be executed from the cartridge, it must be in RAM, and figuring out how to manage the memory is too much for one person really.

[Tails]

Explain writing your own programs.

[Seahawk]

I don't understand your question.

[Tails]

If you understand that document then you should be able to write your own GBA programs like I did

^ this

[Seahawk]

Well, I meant writing a program that will work on a GBA. See attached file for an example I made, just run it with any GBA emulator.

[Tails]

Then convert it to a cartridge and play it on the go?! :D

[Seahawk]

Yes, if you have flash cartridges and the necessary cables.

[Demon-Mask]

If you understand that document then you should be able to write your own GBA programs like I did =P.
Then I'd have a chance at it, but I'd rather not write a GBA program.

[samejamesbond]

The 3DS sure looks amazing. I wonder how Sony will top this.

@Seahawk: I noticed those problems with the 3DS too.

[Seahawk]

Then I'd have a chance at it, but I'd rather not write a GBA program.

I didn't mean for you to, I just provided that sheet because you seem really interested in how it works. Trust me, games become much more interesting when you know what's going on under the hood =).

[Demon-Mask]

Well, I am interested in how these things work, I am a programmer of sorts.

[Seahawk]

IGN has posted up close, high resolution pictures of the 3DS.

http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/110/1102159/e3-2010-3ds-glamour-shots-20100625033456015.jpg
(Picture may not work depending on IGN web security.)


E3 2010: 3DS Glamour Shots - DS News at IGN (http://ds.ign.com/articles/110/1102159p1.html)

[samejamesbond]

Nice pictures.

[Tails]

Niiiiiiiice.

[samejamesbond]

Niiiiiiiice.

Totally Maaaaan.

[Slime Slayer]

I dont like the proximity of the d-pad and anaalog to the buttons, but ill get used to it.

[Seahawk]

Time for a news bump:

New Nintendo 3DS Hardware Info

IGN has learned that the Nintendo 3DS will pack not one, but two 266MHz ARM11 CPUs, along with a 133MHz GPU, 4MBs of dedicated VRAM, 64MBs of RAM, and 1.5GBs of flash storage. The information comes from persons familiar with the hardware who spoke to us under the condition of anonymity.

While we were unable to determine which variation of the ARM11 processors the 3DS will feature, we now have a better sense of the system's capabilities. Currently there are a number of devices being powered by the ARM11, including the Zune HD, a variety of Android smartphones, and prior to the introduction of Apple's A4 processor, the iPhone and iPod touch.

As we learned in June (http://ds.ign.com/articles/110/1100568p1.html), the 3DS' GPU has been named DMP's PICA200, which features a maximum processing speed of roughly 200MHz, though it seems Nintendo is scaling it back a bit for use in the 3DS.

The handheld will also have substantially larger storage capacity than preceding models, jumping from only 256MBs on the DSi to 1.5GBs of flash memory on the 3DS. The total drive space can, of course, be expanded using the 3DS' SD card slot.

From IGN (http://gear.ign.com/articles/112/1122613p1.html)

*Addendum*
Later I'll make a table comparing the current known specs to the normal DS, and current home consoles.

[Slime Slayer]

Later I'll make a table comparing the current known specs to the normal DS, and current home consoles.

Can you also estimate what other systems it may be able to emulate?

[Demon-Mask]

My guess is that it should be capable of running emulators of the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube.
Even then I anticipate it will run a little bit slow. You need a significant jump in power to successfully emulate something. Like how the SNES emulators on the Dreamcast ran a bit slow. You need that extra power.

You also have to keep in mind though the deficiencies of the controller. Like how the PSP is capable of running N64 emulators, but it doesn't have enough buttons to make it worth playing.

[Slime Slayer]

I guess it will easily emulate what I'd want to to, want i'd really like to see is a working version of mame on it, I struggled with the one on wii for the last few days and I came to the conclusion that it just sucks.

[Seahawk]

Ok, it's time for Seahawk's completely unprofessional


3DS SPECS COMPARISON TABLE
================================================== ========
This is only a table. Do not take this as any indication of possible actual performance.
================================================== ========
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9973/tablers.png

Sources:
New Nintendo 3DS Hardware Info - IGN (http://gear.ign.com/articles/112/1122613p1.html)
GBA/DS Specifications (http://nocash.emubase.de/gbatek.htm#dstechnicaldata)
PlayStation Portable - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Portable)
Xbox 360 hardware - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_hardware)
Wii - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii)
PlayStation 2 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2#Technical_specifications)

[Demon-Mask]

Theoretically, it should be able to run MAME.
The PSP Slim (The one with the 64 MB of RAM) can run MAME no problems, so from that it, it appears as though the 3DS would be able to run MAME.

[Seahawk]

Since the internets are hotly in debate about whether these specs are genuine, I will point out that none of the 3DS specs are official until Nintendo makes an announcement.

In my personal opninion I'd say they're pretty reasonable.
These CPU speed in particular continues the tradition of being a multiple of Nintendo's previous handhelds.

Gameboy> GBColor> GBAdv.> DS(ARM7) > DS(ARM9)> None > 3DS
4.19MHz > 8.4MHz > 16.78MHz > 33.5MHz > 67 MHz > (134MHz) > 266MHz

I like how it has more video memory than the Wii, for a smaller screen >_>;. But I hate how people are rating it as underpowered compared to the iPad/iPhone--this is a game machine, not a freaking computer running an OS and phone in the background. Sorry, I had to get that off of my chest.

[Kugyince]

The 3DS press release will start tonight at 1am EST. I'll post updates early in the morning.

[Slime Slayer]

The 3DS press release will start tonight at 1am EST. I'll post updates early in the morning.

Figure I'd be able catch it streaming live?

[Seahawk]

I'll be around as well, do you know if anyone will stream it live?

[Kugyince]

Seriously doubtful as they are not even allowing foreign press to attend. Most western gaming sites are relying on their Japanese correspondents.

[StarfoxFan2009]

the details on the 3DS are nice

[Seahawk]

The conference is over.
Apologies in advance for messy post.

Most important news:

LAUNCH DATE:
FEBRUARY 26, 2011 IN JAPAN @ 25,000 YEN
MARCH 2011 FOR USA/EUROPE

OFFICIAL DESIGN:
http://www.wiinintendo.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/3DS-final-design.png
The system will be available in Aqua Blue and Cosmo Black.





Highlights:
Mii Studio:
There are more than 180 million Mii characters out there worldwide, according to Iwata. Mii Studio can be used to make the Mii experience simpler: you can use the system's camera to take a picture of your face, which then can be used as a template to adjust the various Mii face parts to customize the Mii.

http://nintendoworldwide.weebly.com/uploads/4/9/6/8/4968653/9477310.jpg?408

Mii characters can then be converted into a QR Code that you can print out or post on a website so you can share your Mii in a different way: friends use their 3DS cameras to take a picture of the code and instantly retrieve your Mii. There is also a Tag Mode Mii Plaza so you can see all the Mii characters you've collected wirelessly.

Virtual Console:
- 3DS will come with a 2 GB SD card packed in.
- VIRTUAL CONSOLE CONFIRMED FOR GAME BOY AND GAME BOY ADVANCE GAMES!
- Title shown include Mario Land and Link’s Awakening DX.
- Also selling “Classic Games” viewed in 3D!

System Wi-Fi + related:
- Iwata introduces something called “Itsu no ma ni Tsuushin”.
- This feature has the system automatically download new rankings, new ghost data, new free software, notices from Nintendo and more, all through Wi-Fi.
- You can actually use this feature anywhere, including DS Download Stations and Nintendo Zones… and even McDonalds!
- NTT partnering with Nintendo for Wi-Fi hotspots around Japan, starting sometime in 2011.
- Iwata says they want to deliver new experiences every day using this Itsunoma ni Tsuushin feature.

The "tag mode" enables the system to talk with other 3DS systems while they are in sleep mode. Data will transfer between the devices no matter which game is plugged into the system. All games can (and possibly will) support this function on the 3DS.



Nintendo has partnered with Fuji TV to distribute free 3D videos to users on an experimental basis.

The 3DS also appears to have multi-tasking function: you'll be able to hit the home button mid-game and launch certain programs, such as a "Memory Notebook" or pull up your playtime or see the amount of steps you've taken (possibly confirming the system features a pedometer built-in).

There also seems to be a cradle that you can set the system into. That system cradle we saw at E3 will allow you to have faster internet downloads apparently when you put the 3DS on it. Details on this forthcoming.

Games + related:
Iwata admitted during the conference that in the past, very few third party games sell on Nintendo consoles and handhelds. It’s true that Wii third party game sales are low in Japan and the first year of Nintendo DS software sales was all Nintendo, but this has since changed. It didn’t go as well as planned with Wii, so they’re fixing the problem with the 3DS. The company will be taking a stronger initiative in helping third-party games sell on the 3DS.

In a developer interview shown at the conference, Namco Bandai's Sakagami notes that he would like to use Tag Mode for rankings and exchanging ghost data in Ridge Racer 3D.

Also in this developer interview video, Yoshinori Ono from Capcom says that they wanted to make a Street Fighter where you can battle anywhere. According to him, you'll be able to use Wi-Fi to receive fight requests wherever you are.

-A guy from Capcom says that Resident Evil Revelations is “pure horror.” He believes players will be excited to play it in 3D.
- Resident Evil The Mercenaries 3D is also in development.
- Level-5 believes that by using the 3DS’s 3D capabilities, puzzle solving will become more direct for the layer. CEO Akihiro Hino says that they’re putting their power into 3DS development.
- Tetsuya Nomura said “starting with Kingdom Hearts, we’d like to release a number of titles on 3DS.”
- Hideo Kojima has lots of ideas for the 3D screen and Tag Mode. Snake Eater will “camouflage” the functionality.
- Samurai Warriors Chronicle will take advantage of the 3D effect in cutscenes. Think flying bullets.
- Companies giving praise for the 3DS’s hardware.

Showed video reel of various 3DS games, including Animal Crossing, Paper Mario, Ocarina of Time, Chocobo Racing, PilotWings Resort, Metal Gear Solid, Ridge Racer, Professor Layton, Star Fox 64, Zelda…

And then the conference ended.

Probably more info tomorrow and video footage and screenshots come out. But you heard it heard first =)!

http://nintendoworldwide.weebly.com/uploads/4/9/6/8/4968653/738380.jpg

Other non 3DS news listed at the conference:

Wiimotionplus accesory now is a single unit instead of an extension that you plug in.
Starfox posted the pic below.

http://www.wiinintendo.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/the-last-story-logo-600x303.jpg
At the September 29, 2010, press event in Japan, Iwata stated that “The Last Story” would release in Japan on January 27, 2011. More details to follow. No word yet if a North American release will follow.

Sources:
Nintendo Conference 2010 Details (http://ds.ign.com/articles/112/1124149p1.html)
Nintendo Conference 2010 Coverage: 3DS Launch Details Revealed! | WiiNintendo (http://www.wiinintendo.net/2010/09/28/nintendo-conference-2010-coverage-3ds-japanese-launch-details-revealed-at-1-am-est-tonight/#more-26803)
Pics: Nintendo World Wide - Home (http://nintendoworldwide.weebly.com/)
~Seahawk, signing off

[StarfoxFan2009]

here's the first look at the Wiimotion plus

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/9811/tdnp.jpg

[Kugyince]

More games:

Class of Warriors
Splinter Cell
Ghost Recon
Driver
Nintendo World Report - News - New 3DS Titles Revealed in Famitsu Magazine (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/24132)


Mega Man Legends 3
Nintendo World Report - News - Mega Man Legends 3 Project Coming to 3DS (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/24147)

[Tails]

Say what Tenser? :o

Roll Caskett <3

[Kugyince]

YouTube - Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition (Nintendo 3DS) - Yoshinori Ono Interview

http://gonintendo.com/?p=137558

http://gonintendo.com/?p=137572

YouTube - ?Project ????? for Nintendo 3DS????????????

http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/thumb_Picture_42.png

YouTube - Tráiler de Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition

http://gonintendo.com/?p=137582

http://gonintendo.com/?p=137583

YouTube - Nintendo 3DS softwares Lineup [N Conference 2010]

http://gonintendo.com/?p=137591

http://gonintendo.com/?p=137592

http://gonintendo.com/?p=137595

http://gonintendo.com/?p=137598

http://gonintendo.com/?p=137599

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[Tails]

This very well might've sealed me getting it on release..

[StarfoxFan2009]

I am for sure convinced after watching the video of Nintendo's lineup. Starfox64 FTW

[Dudebro]

So give me a simple answer, is this more powerful than the PSP?

[Tails]

All I know is it's over 9000.

http://www.geocline.net/miscimages/Over9000_small.jpg

[Seahawk]

A bunch of awesomeness.

Tenser you get a +1 just for posting the first videos of game footage I've seen on the internet.

So give me a simple answer, is this more powerful than the PSP?

Judging on the numbers we know so far I'd say yes.

[samejamesbond]

This is going to be awesome, SSFIV on the go with MGS3 and Mega Man Legends 3?

I need to get this thing.

[Tails]

Hawk, North America price is announced.

IGN Advertisement (http://ds.ign.com/articles/112/1124158p1.html)

[Winnebagel]

Hawk, North America price is announced.

IGN Advertisement (http://ds.ign.com/articles/112/1124158p1.html)

Nice. I think that's a fair price for what it does.

[Tails]

Says Mr. Moneybagz.

[TrakMastaTom]

300 dollars?

That's more than the Wii dropped at. There's no way.

I was really excited for this thing, but the price just completely killed my buzz. :(

[Seahawk]

Hawk, North America price is announced.

???
That's the price in Japan.......and that's the same material I wrote. A simply currency conversion shouldn't be called an official price since stuff gets sold in different regions at entire different prices. Or did I miss something?

Either way I'd say 300$ is a bit too much. 250$ sounds more reasonable, make it 200$ and I'm sold.

[Winnebagel]

I don't mean to be a snob about it, but it seems to me that this could be more revolutionary than the Wii was. It could take gaming to a whole other level.

I guess I was more prepared for the price as alot of people were already predicting this. Wasn't PSP $250.00 when it launched? This is not that far off and will do a lot more in my view.

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I should also add, I am an admitted complete nerd for 3D, so I would pay a lot for a machine like this.

[Kugyince]

Nintendo systems always MSRP in NA lower than the yen/dollar conversion rate. The only time this has not happened was with the Wii. Instead they packed in Wii Sports which wasn't a pack-in in Japan.

[Slime Slayer]

Looks like I'm winning our little bet none the less. :cute:

[Kugyince]

We'll see.

[Demon-Mask]

That isn't even close to a reasonable price, seriously for $300.00, a person could do a lot better.

@ WB:
It could take gaming to a whole other level.
It could easily fail horribly.
You know what else was to bring gaming to a whole new level:
http://nintendorks.com/media/7/20081016-Virtual%20Boy%20Jap.jpg
Nintendo's other 3D console.

[samejamesbond]

While that is a good point, people that have played it are saying it works fine.

[Kugyince]

The comparison to the Virtual Boy is both stupid and overdone.

[Demon-Mask]

And your instant love of something yet to be released is stupid and overdone.

If you are allowed to make premature judgments of something, so am I.

[Kugyince]

Dead or Alive: Dimensions - trailer

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137624)Tobidasu! Puzzle Bobble 3D - more details

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137625)
Konami reveals Asphalt 3D - screens

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137629)
Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracle - announcement trailer

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137630)
Metal Gear Solid Snake Eater - more details

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137631)
Nintendo’s 3DS lineup - info blurbs

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137643)SEGA commits to 6 3DS games by March 2012, Super Monkey Ball and Sonic confirmed

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137649)Super Street Fighter IV - English trailer

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137650)
3DS - more hardware pics

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137657)
Ubisoft 3DS titles - Combat of Giants: Dinosaur 3D, Ghost Recon Tactics, Splinter Cell 3D, Driver 3D

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137659)
Square-Enix considering 3DS remake of Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137661)
Nintendo 3DS press conference - live video, English dubbing, slideshow, developer videos and more

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137662)
Nintendo 3DS tag mode features get North American names

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137666)
Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater - trailer (embed edition)

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137672)
Nintendo 3DS - more hardware pics, event pics

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137673)
Cubic Ninja - screens

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137675)
Resident Evil: Revelations/The Mercenaries - footage rip

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137678)
Nintendo 3DS event - show floor, 3DS gameplay, event footage

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137684)
More from Tabata on Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII 3DS remake speculation

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137686)
3DS Activity Log tracks your real-life steps, game time

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137695)
3DS features and services - more details and info round-up

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137700)
Official PR - SEGA Announces Super Monkey Ball for Nintendo 3DS

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137703)
Iwata on third party Wii/DS sales - comparisons, ratios, and future plans for 3DS

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137725)

[ZedIsDead]

Holy. Crap. I might actually buy this soon after launch.

[Demon-Mask]

Trailers of games that could easily be rendered in more detail than in game?
Speculation?
Claims that could easily be exaggerated?

I wasn't saying I am against the 3DS, just stating the fact that it is:
A. Overpriced
and:
B. Has as high a potential for failure as any other 3D game console

Maybe you should learn to comprehend what you are reading.

[Tails]

Demon-Mask do you always enjoy causing drama on the forums?

[Kugyince]

Trailers of games that could easily be rendered in more detail than in game?
Speculation?
Claims that could easily be exaggerated?

I wasn't saying I am against the 3DS, just stating the fact that it is:
A. Overpriced
and:
B. Has as high a potential for failure as any other 3D game console

Maybe you should learn to comprehend what you are reading.

Are you making some sad attempt to troll?

I posted those links for those interested in more information about the 3DS, not as some response to your post.

I'm not going to respond to someone who seriously entertains the idea of comparing the 3DS to the Virtual Boy just as I wouldn't respond to someone who's comparing the PSP to the LYNX.

[samejamesbond]

I agree with Tenser, the 3DS looks far superior to the Virtual Boy.

[Kugyince]

They have zero in common besides the ability to display stereoscopic 3D.

[Slime Slayer]

Anybody who even entertains the thought that this system will fail, hasn't been following the industry for long enough. Thank you for the links Ten.

[Demon-Mask]

Demon-Mask do you always enjoy causing drama on the forums?
Doesn't everybody?
Are you making some sad attempt to troll?

It was meant as a troll to an extent, I just meant to state that it has the potential to be bad, just as everything else that has ever been produced by any company or man since the beginning of time, it is absolutely not immune to failure. Nothing is and nothing ever will be. But when I realized what kind of reaction me just posting a picture got, I figured why not finish what I started and troll just a bit.


I'm not going to respond to someone who seriously entertains the idea of comparing the 3DS to the Virtual Boy just as I wouldn't respond to someone who's comparing the PSP to the LYNX.
Not seriously entertaining the fact, just saying that there is a very small chance that it could turn out the same.
I agree with Tenser, the 3DS looks far superior to the Virtual Boy.
It certainly does.
Anybody who even entertains the thought that this system will fail, hasn't been following the industry for long enough. Thank you for the links Ten.
I have been following the industry for as long as I could read, so probably twelve years or something, I don't think it will fail, but it is a possibility.


And to think, this all started at my displeasure regarding the obscene price of the 3DS.

Seriously, the only thing I would ever spend $300 on:
A car
A house
Rent for said house, or lease for said car per month
A college education
Monthly cost of student loans for said college education

A piece of technology that will be obsolete within ten years of it being released isn't the best way to spend so much money, in my opinion. Of course I was raised to be a bit wary of spending my money on such luxuries.

Whatever, people will buy it, Nintendo will make way more money than they should, and the higher-ups in the company that play little to no role in the actual design and development of these products will get an obscene portion of Nintendo's obscene profits, so it all works out in the end.

That and it will give me the next used console I will by for a small portion of the initial price.

[fenrir1887]

I'm starting to like the idea of 3DS already.

[Kugyince]

If you skipped this one, it deserves to be re-posted:
http://gonintendo.com/?p=137700

[Slime Slayer]

Any video game system that instantly makes Demon-mask downright jealous of it has got to good!

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If you skipped this one, it deserves to be re-posted:
http://gonintendo.com/?p=137700

Go Nintendo isn't working for me, can I get a copy/paste?

[Tails]

Some of this info is old, some of it is new, but all of it is interesting!
StreetPass
- final name of tag mode
- exchange data with other players while in sleep mode
- handled automatically
- same game does not have to be in cartridge slot
- StreetPass communication light in the upper right-hand side of 3DS
- check your "Notification Applet" to see the kind of communication took place
Mii Studio
- Mii Studio may not be the final English name
- portable Mii creation studio
- more parts for customization
- use your existing Miis
- automatic creation features if wanted
- convert Miis to QR form
- QR code and Mii picture data can be sent to SD card
StreetPass Mii Plaza
- temporary name
- Mii character will be exchanged with passers-by
- external Miis will appear in the StreetPass Mii Plaza
- Mii is shown next to an icon showing what game the Mii's owner previously playe
- ind out when the StreetPass took place and how many people that person has StreetPassed with.
AR Games
- Augmented Reality
- comes pre-installed with AR Games
Home Menu
- press the Home Button to quickly bring up the system's Home menu
- access various hardware features
- you can do this while playing a game
Nintendo 3DS Camera
- two cameras allow the system to take 3D photos
- includes a variety of sound and camera functions built in
- take pictures of faces using both the inside and outside camera, and then merge these into on
SpotPass
- English name for the feature "Itsunoma no Tsuushin"
- 3DS communicates with Wi-Fi access points and other 3DS owners for SpotPass communications
- active in Sleep Mode
- auto-downloads rankings, ghost data, free software and notification
- pre set the kinds of things you want transferred in this fashion
- current DS Stations kiosks will be converted to full Nintendo Zones services
- NTT East and NTT West team-up to give 3DS users access to WiFine access points throughout Japa
- access some 2,000 access points in train stations, airports and restaurants
3D Movies
- collaborations with Fuji Television and Nippon Television
- free 3D videos to 3DS devices via SpotPass
- "We are hoping that it will be one of the solutions to tackle the chicken and the egg problem and become the trigger for the 3D footage business to emerge on Nintendo 3DS."

[fenrir1887]

That's awesome. I'm sure a lot of buyers will rave about it.

[Tails]

Then you got the Xbox/Sony Fanboys horsetrading on it.

[fenrir1887]

I don't listen to anything they say or pay heed to anything they do about it. For certain franchises, I'll stay with Nintendo.

[Dudebro]

Then you got the Xbox Sony Fanboys horsetrading on it.Huh? Do you mean this?
Horse trading is an idiom used to describe negotiations, especially where these are difficult and involve a lot of compromise.
If so I'm lost on what you're trying to say since "fanboy" and "compromise" do not go together. Btw, aren't you a proud fanboy?

Also what does xbox have to do with this? I wasn't aware that microsoft has a handheld. I think you mean just PSP fanboys. I mean obviously you just wanted to troll but I felt I should correct you a little.


Btw is this actually 3D just like every other system since like forever ago? I was under the impression that we'd be seeing actual 3D like the current trend with movies. The trailers I saw for the 3DS games look like PSP games, why is everyone so excited?

[Tails]

I dunno if that was a FF blooper or I just wasn't looking. I meant Haterading.

Not trolling, I'm no fanboy I like what I like no matter what system. Don't like anything on Xbox. Just saying norm for all 3 fanboys to hate on each other even if Xbox isn't a handheld.

[fenrir1887]

I take back my previous post as you just clarified my own confusion at this time, DB.

[Dudebro]

Not trolling, I'm no fanboy I like what I like no matter what system. Don't like anything on Xbox.
Sure, whatever you say.

Just saying norm for all 3 fanboys to hate on each other even if Xbox isn't a handheld.
It's not going on in this topic and I've never heard of any of this going on in general, why did you even bring it up? Just admit that you were trying to get a reaction.

[Tails]

look at youtube videos it's filled with it.

[Dudebro]

So you're only basing it off youtube? Well golly gee I guess I was wrong!

Seriously though youtube is where little morons go to get attention. It does not matter for anything at all. Got anything else?

[Tails]

You are obviously not understanding. A good example of seeing people haterade on eveyrthing xbox etc. is youtube. CT is another example of hating on the 3DS. Point is it spins in all directions.

[Dudebro]

So you're just generally saying that fanboys are morons? Thanks for the contribution to the topic I guess. Like I said though, none of that is going on here and it's not even something I've heard of.

Btw I read a few hostile gaming forums and I see nothing of this supposed fanboy trash talk towards the 3DS, where are you seeing it besides Ctoons?

[samejamesbond]

DM:
A house

You'd buy a $300 house?

[Dudebro]

I was gonna comment on that too but I figured he meant it would go towards a house. If not then he must be looking for a trailer style home or maybe a really expensive tent that looks like a house.

[Tails]

So you're just generally saying that fanboys are morons? Thanks for the contribution to the topic I guess. Like I said though, none of that is going on here and it's not even something I've heard of.

Btw I read a few hostile gaming forums and I see nothing of this supposed fanboy trash talk towards the 3DS, where are you seeing it besides Ctoons?
youtube, only go to here, youtube and ct.

DM could also be looking for section 8 housing with that.

[Dudebro]

You need to broaden your horizons then Tails. Youtube is good to watch some stuff but it's not to be taken seriously when it comes to peoples opinions about trivial matters. It's full of whiny fanboys and trolls, there's some good mixed in but looking for it is a wasted effort.

RU is great but obviously it's bias towards nintendo so it's hard to get an objective opinion on anything without that rearing it's ugly head. I have no clue how CT is but I have my doubts.


Either way the point is this topic has stayed pretty calm and positive until DM admittedly trolled(without fanboyism apparently) and you brought up the fanboy thing. Can we please just keep it on track with info and discussion and avoid all this crap for once? I'm tired of it and I only commented about it because it bothers me to see it starting.

[Tails]

You gonna get a 3DS DB

[Slime Slayer]

RU is great but obviously it's bias towards nintendo

It is? How so? I'd say all systems are represented by certain people here, the only one that doesn't get much talk is the ps3.

[Dudebro]

I was considering it but now I'm not so sure. If it's almost equal to a PSP then what's so great about it besides exclusive games I probably won't even care about? At least the PSP has some awesome games I know I'd like.

@steven- no it's pretty heavily in favor of Nintendo around here. The mere mention of microsoft or sony brings out the fanboy trolling. You should know this better than most people though.

[Slime Slayer]

I was considering it but now I'm not so sure. If it's almost equal to a PSP then what's so great about it besides exclusive games I probably won't even care about? At least the PSP has some awesome games I know I'd like.

@steven- no it's pretty heavily in favor of Nintendo around here. The mere mention of microsoft or sony brings out the fanboy trolling. You should know this better than most people though.

Seriously get out from the rock DB, the damn thing is 3d!!!! No-need for glasses honest to goodness 3d!

I don't go into topics about 360 or ps3 games so I wouldn't know.

[Tails]

I'd recommend a PSP. I've played mine so freaking much.. the controls/LR buttons are breaking.

[samejamesbond]

My stick cap broke off because of how often I play PSP.
Dissidia is such an addicting game...

[Dudebro]

@Steven-That's what I thought but like I said a few posts ago the trailers I'm seeing aren't impressive or showing any real 3D. Please point me in the direction of something that demonstrates this. I'm not looking for a reason to hate on it I'm just confused.

Except that trolling incident in the E3 Microsoft topic right?

[fenrir1887]

Trolling disgusts me, DB.

[samejamesbond]

Who likes trolls?
Even trolls don't like other trolls.

[Tails]

YouTube - 3d Nintendo ds Demo Game

[fenrir1887]

Yeah, well, no honor among thieves, or in this case, trolls.

[Dudebro]

A little trolling is fine and can be funny. It becomes a problem when it's bothering other users and/or it ruins a topic.

@Tails- thanks, that actually looks worth it. I checked out some of the videos Tenser linked and none of them looked like 3D unless I was just missing it. How many games are confirmed to be actual 3D?

[Seahawk]

YouTube - 3d Nintendo ds Demo Game (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPPCvVmx5Ho)

This video is BS. That's a DSi. That video is heavily edited. You can't capture a 3D effect with a 2D camera anyways. Fail.

[Tails]

I saw SSF4:3D and it looks 3d to me.

[fenrir1887]

I'm sure I saw it too.

[Dudebro]

Great so that video is a lie? Is there any real tech demo I can see without having to sift through a bunch of crap I don't care about?

[Seahawk]

I saw SSF4:3D and it looks 3d to me.

It's all flat and simulated footage because your monitor is not a 3D display built to handle 3DS video.

The DSi has no gyroscope or whatever to detect tilt like in the fake video you posted. Still fail.

The real 3D effect is like in this video.
YouTube - Nintendo 3DS at Nintendo Conference 2010

At 18 seconds, if you pause it you will see two of the same image. This is the 3D effect. It's imperfect because you are viewing it in a 2D video and because the camera is not in the sweet spot for optimal 3D viewing.

[fenrir1887]

I'm thinking it was a different video, DB, than that.

[Dudebro]

So we can't even tell how good this is unless we see it in person? If that's the case then how many games will actually use 3D in a meaningful way? I don't mean just the presentation I mean actually allowing a 3D environment that's interactive and innovative? Also does this mean they'll stop making non 3D games for DS? For example the new Professor Layton game is announced but is it gonna be for both or will my gf need to blow 250-300 just to use it on a system that will probably only make use of it in a minor way(for that particular game)?

[fenrir1887]

It may or may not be, DB. This is all opinion with some scrap of video in between.

[Slime Slayer]

The only way to explain to someone what it is, is to have them go see an imax 3d movie.
The game will look like its going on in the empty space between you and your ds.

[Seahawk]

So we can't even tell how good this is unless we see it in person?

Yep. You'll have to wait until you can try a demo at a store to make an informed decision.

If that's the case then how many games will actually use 3D in a meaningful way? I don't mean just the presentation I mean actually allowing a 3D environment that's interactive and innovative?

That's up to the game developers. Also that question of interactivity and innovation has been the test of games since the Odyssey came out.

Also does this mean they'll stop making non 3D games for DS? For example the new Professor Layton game is announced but is it gonna be for both or will my gf need to blow 250-300 just to use it on a system that will probably only make use of it in a minor way(for that particular game)

The original DS line is on its way out. There are very few big games (if any) left to ship on the platform. Developers are ready to move on as well: they're looking for that fresh start on a platform that's big news, and a platform that isn't plagued with rampant piracy. It's been a great ride since 2004 but the end for it is nigh.

....Damn I remember playing it back then too -.-. I feel old now.

[Tails]

Black and White Hawk.

[Dudebro]

That's up to the game developers. Also that question of interactivity and innovation has been the test of games since the Odyssey came out.I mainly ask because of what happened with the Wii. Sure it's cool to add motion controls but I felt like it was mostly a gimmick and I ended up playing most games without it. I'm just curious if this will feel like a gimmick, are they're gonna learn from the Wii or continue to cater to mostly casual gamers.

The original DS line is on its way out. There are very few big games (if any) left to ship on the platform. Developers are ready to move on as well: they're looking for that fresh start on a platform that's big news, and a platform that isn't plagued with rampant piracy. It's been a great ride since 2004 but the end for it is nigh.Well that's annoying. So my perfectly good DSlite will be next to useless soon? Sony is still making games for PS2, I guess Nintendo can't handle that kind of thing?

[fenrir1887]

I'd want to avoid piracy too. 3d may be the way to go.

[Dudebro]

They can only avoid it for so long before people make work arounds.

[Tails]

In a nutshell yep DB, happened with all GB products. Just need to know when to stop buying. Lite was the draw point.

[fenrir1887]

Oh, yeah The workarounds would be a pain to try to stop.

[Seahawk]

I mainly ask because of what happened with the Wii. Sure it's cool to add motion controls but I felt like it was mostly a gimmick and I ended up playing most games without it. I'm just curious if this will feel like a gimmick, are they're gonna learn from the Wii or continue to cater to mostly casual gamers.

I have no idea. Personally I'm hoping Nintendo puts its foot down and stops low quality games from getting on the thing. Seriously probably 90% of the Wii library is shovelware. It's embarassing to look at the shelves for Wii games at stores. It'll also stop 3rd parties from crying that their 5$ game doesn't sell.

Well that's annoying. So my perfectly good DSlite will be next to useless soon? Sony is still making games for PS2, I guess Nintendo can't handle that kind of thing?

Sony is done with the PS2, as seen by all efforts to not allow backwards compatibility on the PS3. The "new" PS2 games are mainly either cheap shovelware or the continuing line of sports games (Madden, FIFA, etc.) put there by 3rd parties because at this point development is so cheap that it is basically free money to put it in a store. The reason PS2 lasted so long is because PS3 was so damn expensive for the longest time, meanwhile everyone already had a PS2. 2008 was really the last year for PS2.
It's possible you might get thrown a bone for the normal DS every now and then, but it's increasingly unlikely because the DS is severely underpowered compared to iPhones, iPads, whatever hip electronic product everyone has. It's just good business.
Either way everyone is moving on and mainstream development for it is going to stop in most studios pretty soon if it hasn't already. With the new Pokemon Black/White recently released Nintendo is pretty much done with it.

[fenrir1887]

Yeah, but still, it's going to be hard to see all that happen.

[Dudebro]

I have no idea. Personally I'm hoping Nintendo puts its foot down and stops low quality games from getting on the thing. Seriously probably 90% of the Wii library is shovelware. It's embarassing to look at the shelves for Wii games at stores. It'll also stop 3rd parties from bitching that their 5$ game doesn't sell.
It's refreshing to hear someone be honest about it. I see so much crap for the Wii and then I hear all these fanboys denying it like it's not painfully obvious. Hopefully they learn from their mistakes and worry more about quality and ignore quantity. If they do it might bring back some of the gamers they lost when it became obvious that the Wii wasn't making games for them. Not everyone is a nintendo fanboy or a casual family gamer right?

Is the 3DS compatible with normal DS games at least? If so I might be tempted to do one of those system trade ins at launch.

[Tails]

Yes.

[fenrir1887]

As if it would prevent complaints elsewhere.

[Seahawk]

It's refreshing to hear someone be honest about it. I see so much crap for the Wii and then I hear all these fanboys denying it like it's not painfully obvious. Hopefully they learn from their mistakes and worry more about quality and ignore quantity. If they do it might bring back some of the gamers they lost when it became obvious that the Wii wasn't making games for them. Not everyone is a nintendo fanboy or a casual family gamer right?

As I said it's more 3rd parties that are doing this. Nintendo didn't help with their early 'casual' titles, and once the system's reputation was locked in place, most 'hardcore' gamers fled, so there's no market for big action titles that you see on other platforms.

You have to dig deep to find good stuff for the Wii. But they're there.
Muramasa: The Demon Blade
Sin & Punishment 2
No More Heroes 1, 2
Klonoa
Okami
Wiiware titles (Castlevania The Adventure Rebirth, Cave Story, etc)

Just a sample of underrated gems nobody bought. But that's for another thread.

Is the 3DS compatible with normal DS games at least? If so I might be tempted to do one of those system trade ins at launch.

Yep.

[Slime Slayer]

They aren't gonna cut off support to the DS right away, there will still games coming out for it for at least another year.

[Kugyince]

There are DS games scheduled for release as late as May, 2012.

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Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition - more screens

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137743)Japanese news report on 3DS shows new over-the-shoulder camera mode for Super Street Fighter IV: 3D Edition

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137758)
Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition - more details on behind-the-back camera

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137766)

[Slime Slayer]

Damn those go-nintendo links, the site just doesn't work for me, it's in the same boat as evg and a few others- just can't access them from around midnight till around 8 am.

[Tails]

Looks nice that's for sure.

[Kugyince]

Does Table Pen Sports point to a multi-touch 3DS screen?

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137779)THQ bashes 3D with glasses, applauds 3DS

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137793)
Resident Evil: Revelations is a ‘pure horror game’, hoping to scare players

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137795)
3DS - Mii photo-creation process shown

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137817)
Nintendo 3DS: Why ¥25,000 Is Not $300

(http://gonintendo.com/?p=137845)


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3DS graphical comparisons:
(All 3DS screens are on the left)

Star Fox 64 3DS vs. Star Fox 64 N64
http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/112/1124739/3ds-graphics-old-vs-new--20100930095619396.jpg

Resident Evil Mercenaries 3DS vs. Resident Evil 5 360
http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/112/1124739/3ds-graphics-old-vs-new--20100930095455179.jpg

Ridge Racer 3DS vs. Ridge Racer 2 PSP
http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/112/1124739/3ds-graphics-old-vs-new--20100930095518069.jpg

Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 3D vs. MGS3: Snake Eater (PS2)
http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/112/1124739/3ds-graphics-old-vs-new--20100930095705254.jpg

Mario Kart 3DS vs Mario Kart Wii
http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/112/1124739/3ds-graphics-old-vs-new--20100930095653786.jpg

[Slime Slayer]

Who's bright idea was it to compare to the ridge racer screen on the psp while the player is boosting?

Star fox looks great, might have to pick it up, I'm thinking it will make awesome use of the 3d.

@Ten, last 2 spoilers aren't working.

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Okay scratch the star fox praise, why wouldn't hey just make a new game? The re-did everything else in the game for frig sakes.

[Kugyince]

Images came from an IGN article.

[Seahawk]

I was about to post that article but Tenser beat me to it. But here are fixes for the last two images, plus Street Fighter IV.

Metal Gear Solid 3
http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/112/1124739/3ds-graphics-old-vs-new--20100930095705254-000.jpg

Mario Kart
http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/112/1124739/3ds-graphics-old-vs-new--20100930095653786-000.jpg

Street Fighter IV
http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/112/1124739/3ds-graphics-old-vs-new--20100930095602849-000.jpg

Source: 3DS Graphics: Old vs New - IGN (http://ds.ign.com/articles/112/1124739p1.html)

[Winnebagel]

I was about to post that article but Tenser beat me to it. But here are fixes for the last two images, plus Street Fighter IV.

Metal Gear Solid 3
http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/112/1124739/3ds-graphics-old-vs-new--20100930095705254-000.jpg

Mario Kart
http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/112/1124739/3ds-graphics-old-vs-new--20100930095653786-000.jpg

Street Fighter IV
http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/112/1124739/3ds-graphics-old-vs-new--20100930095602849-000.jpg

Source: 3DS Graphics: Old vs New - IGN (http://ds.ign.com/articles/112/1124739p1.html)

Nice! Those graphics look beautiful, and let me just add that the last Chun Li photo did very good things for me. :bulgy-eyes:

[Seahawk]

Nice! Those graphics look beautiful, and let me just add that the last Chun Li photo did very good things for me. :bulgy-eyes:

Naughty Bagel........it's not even in 3D yet, maybe you shouldn't get a 3DS =P.

[Winnebagel]

Naughty Bagel........it's not even in 3D yet, maybe you shouldn't get a 3DS =P.

Blessed poo! That's true. That photo in 3D says, "$300.00 is a bargain" all over it. I am so going to preorder this today! :in-love:

[Seahawk]

Blessed poo!

+1. Thanks for the new sig.

[Winnebagel]

+1. Thanks for the new sig.

Thanks and you're welcome my friend. But for real, holy cow byproduct! You have a game right there just with that picture.
3D here I come!! :bulgy-eyes:

[Tails]

Not to be a downer, but I just don't get the hype with Chun Li.

[Winnebagel]

Not to be a downer, but I just don't get the hype with Chun Li.

I like Chun Li, but I like that photo even more, and in 3D it's just...

:}:}:}:}:} YouTube - Fog Horn Sound Effect :}:}:}:}:}

[Tails]

Hello-o-o, Nurse! For you?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d2/Totallyinsaney.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/dd/Animaniacs.svg

[Winnebagel]

Hello-o-o, Nurse! For you?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d2/Totallyinsaney.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/dd/Animaniacs.svg

+1 That pretty much sums it up.

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Okay, so has anyone tried to preorder this yet? I tried at Gamestop today only to be told that they are not taking preorders yet. Anyone else experience this?

[Slime Slayer]

When you pre-order do you have to pay up front? The only other time I pre-ordered was for MK2 on snes and I don't remember when I paid.

[Kugyince]

I think it's 15% up front.

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Marvelous Would Like To Bring Muramasa: The Demon Blade To Nintendo 3DS // Siliconera (http://www.siliconera.com/2010/10/01/marvelous-would-like-to-bring-muramasa-the-demon-blade-to-nintendo-3ds/)

1UP's RPG Blog : Tales of Nintendo 3DS Ports (http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=9058539)

Iwata talks 3DS connectivity to Wii, game pricing, piracy, specs, date, hardware price, and lost business cards (http://retrouprising.com/viewstory.php?id=137900)

[Winnebagel]

I think it's 15% up front.

Have you tried to pre-order yet? They wouldn't let me. :(

[Tails]

last one is page not found.

[Slime Slayer]

Muaramasa in 3d would be a beautiful treat for the eyes.

[Kugyince]

They wont let you preorder until an official NA release is announced.

[Winnebagel]

They wont let you preorder until an official NA release is announced.

Bummer. I hope they announce it soon. I...must...order.

[Demon-Mask]

I would be willing to get a 3DS, if they offered some kind of good trade in deal for my perfectly good DSi, that is so new in fact, I don't even think the warranty is up yet.

Even then I wouldn't be able to afford it, but I would be much more tempted.

[Tails]

You shoulda waited. I mean by now everyone should know nintendo's trend.

[Demon-Mask]

Well, it was a one time offer. My mom said I could get something under $200 with the income tax return, because we were broke as hell at Christmas. It was either I got something, or I got nothing, I couldn't have chosen to keep the money.

That and my DS lite was in pretty bad shape, with a broken hinge only surviving by some glue.

Had I not got the DSi, I wouldn't have gotten my PSP, because I traded my old DS for it .

[Kugyince]

Nintendo will return to CES after 16 years.

CES which takes place in Vegas Jan 6th through 9th is the most likely place and time Nintendo will announce an official release date, price, and line up on the 3DS for the North American region.

After a 16-year hiatus, Nintendo will be returning to the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) as an exhibitor in January 2011. It's expected the Nintendo 3DS, which is slated for release in March, will be a major focus for the company as it prepares for a worldwide launch.

Nintendo Returns to CES - Wii News at IGN (http://wii.ign.com/articles/113/1136411p1.html)

[DrunkN]

http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/112/1124739/3ds-graphics-old-vs-new--20100930095619396.jpg

Does anyone else notice that the picture at the top left only has a score of 4 points by the end of the level?

And I don't know what to expect. I wonder if FFV DS will come out for the 3DS?

[Demon-Mask]

To be completely honest, I am preferring the images on the right, that is the original versions, in every single case here.
It seems like they are trying too hard.

Four points at the end of the level, that's a pretty bad score.

[DrunkN]

Four points at the end of the level, that's a pretty bad score.
Though I have tried to beat this game with the lowest amount of points possible, I've only ever managed to beat the game with 17 points or so.

[Kugyince]

I highly doubt someone played all the way through to take that image.

[Seahawk]

Though I have tried to beat this game with the lowest amount of points possible, I've only ever managed to beat the game with 17 points or so.

17 sounds about right.

The lowest score would be:

Corneria - 1 point (the boss after waiting a lot)
Meteo - 0 points (use the warp zone to skip the boss)
Katina - 0 points (do nothing and let the boss destroy the base)
Sector X - 0 points (use the warp to skip the boss)

1 point so far

Now you have a choice, decide the Area 6 route or Boise:

Area 6 Route:
(Choose Sector Z after the warp)
Sector Z - 6 points (destroy the missiles at the LAST second so you don't get the +bonus)
Area 6 - 1 point (boss after a lot of waiting)
Venom - 7 points (4 for Star Wolf Team, 2 for Andross hands, 1 for final brain, after lots of waiting during each phase of course)

Total: 15 points

Boise Route:
(Choose Titania after the warp)
Titania - 1 point (boss after waiting)
Boise - Not sure, I don't know if the +3 bonus on the force field towers will fade after waiting. If so then 6 + the number of targets on the core. Otherwise 24 (+3 bonus x 6 + 6) + the number of targets on the core. Ignore Star Wolf team.
Venom - 4 points(1 for Golem boss, 2 for Andross hands, 1 for robot Andross)

Total: 40~50 points

I could be wrong since I've never tried a low score run but those numbers sound right in my head.

[TrakMastaTom]

I think the 3DS Starfox shots look gorgeous. I want one of these things so bad.

[DrunkN]

17 sounds about right.

The lowest score would be:

Corneria - 1 point (the boss after waiting a lot)
Meteo - 0 points (use the warp zone to skip the boss)
Katina - 0 points (do nothing and let the boss destroy the base)
Sector X - 0 points (use the warp to skip the boss)

1 point so far

Now you have a choice, decide the Area 6 route or Boise:

Area 6 Route:
(Choose Sector Z after the warp)
Sector Z - 6 points (destroy the missiles at the LAST second so you don't get the +bonus)
Area 6 - 1 point (boss after a lot of waiting)
Venom - 7 points (4 for Star Wolf Team, 2 for Andross hands, 1 for final brain, after lots of waiting during each phase of course)

Total: 15 points

Boise Route:
(Choose Titania after the warp)
Titania - 1 point (boss after waiting)
Boise - Not sure, I don't know if the +3 bonus on the force field towers will fade after waiting. If so then 6 + the number of targets on the core. Otherwise 24 (+3 bonus x 6 + 6) + the number of targets on the core. Ignore Star Wolf team.
Venom - 4 points(1 for Golem boss, 2 for Andross hands, 1 for robot Andross)

Total: 40~50 points

I could be wrong since I've never tried a low score run but those numbers sound right in my head.
All of that in your head?

[Seahawk]

All of that in your head?

Yep. I've played StarFox 64 a lot :dance:. It's still the best one despite all of the bells and whistles added to the newer games.

[DrunkN]

Yep. I've played StarFox 64 a lot :dance:. It's still the best one despite all of the bells and whistles added to the newer games.
It is pretty good. I just wish it had some of the bizzare and cult feeling of the original. But maybe Out of This Dimension is a one time thing, and would make the game feel too awkward.

[Seahawk]

I think it would feel out of place, the second one sets a much more serious tone than the first. It might have been strange to hear Fox and co going "WTF is going on?!?" when paper planes started attacking =D.

[DrunkN]

I think it would feel out of place, the second one sets a much more serious tone than the first. It might have been strange to hear Fox and co going "WTF is going on?!?" when paper planes started attacking =D.
The paper planes could be done in a cool way, but I was thinking more about weird stuff like those huge smiling moons in the background. Those always creep the Hell out of me.

Something that really frightened me as a small thing was the game over screen for Star Fox. Seriously, how menacing does he need to look?

[Kugyince]

GameStop preorders begin on December 26th in the US (http://nintendo3dsblog.com/gamestop-preorders-begin-on-december-26th-in-the-us)

[Winnebagel]

GameStop preorders begin on December 26th in the US (http://nintendo3dsblog.com/gamestop-preorders-begin-on-december-26th-in-the-us)

Awesome news. I can't remember if I told you guys or not, but I tried to pre-order at Gamestop last week, and the employee had never heard of the system at all. He kept trying to convince me to put a DS Lite on layaway instead.

[samejamesbond]

GameStop preorders begin on December 26th in the US (http://nintendo3dsblog.com/gamestop-preorders-begin-on-december-26th-in-the-us)

That's great to hear, too bad I'm in college. I would have totally gotten it if I was in High School.

[Winnebagel]

That's great to hear, too bad I'm in college. I would have totally gotten it if I was in High School.

What is the difference between High School and College when it comes to this? It is in glorious 3D after all.

[samejamesbond]

Money. Need I say more?

[Winnebagel]

Money. Need I say more?

Ah okay. I thought you were saying it was because there was some sociological difference between student levels or something.

[CrispyChicken]

Is there an estimated price yet for the 3DS?

[Demon-Mask]

Man, the 3DS still has yet to really get me excited. Oh wow, it's in 3D which is going to amount to a stupid little gimmick, that will be over utilized and poorly utilized in the earliest games, much like the DS and its first games poor implementation of touch controls, every game had touch controls just for the sake of touch controls, no matter how bad they were, and how out of place they were.

Not even Metal Gear Solid is exciting me, which is downright sad.

Combine that with an estimated price of $300, and you have something that I likely won't even buy used five years from now.

[Kugyince]

Awesome news. I can't remember if I told you guys or not, but I tried to pre-order at Gamestop last week, and the employee had never heard of the system at all. He kept trying to convince me to put a DS Lite on layaway instead.

I tried pre-ordering it Friday and the Gamestop employee said they weren't accepting pre-orders yet but to try back in about two weeks.

@DM: It's cool. Different strokes for different folks. I wouldn't pay $5 for a new PSP or 360 but if other people enjoy them, no problem.

[samejamesbond]

@DM: The Third Party support is massive and is still growing, I mean Metal Gear Solid,
Resident Evil, and Megaman Legends 3 are all coming to the 3DS.

[Slime Slayer]

Man, the 3DS still has yet to really get me excited. Oh wow, it's in 3D which is going to amount to a stupid little gimmick, that will be over utilized and poorly utilized in the earliest games, much like the DS and its first games poor implementation of touch controls, every game had touch controls just for the sake of touch controls, no matter how bad they were, and how out of place they were.

Not even Metal Gear Solid is exciting me, which is downright sad.

Combine that with an estimated price of $300, and you have something that I likely won't even buy used five years from now.

When you'll go as far as turning your back on one of favorite series of games simply because of the system it's being released on, then your fanboyism has dropped to some pretty low levels.

[Dudebro]

Well in his defense Metal Gear is pretty over hyped anyways.

[samejamesbond]

They are overhyped, but that doesn't make them bad games, Metal Gear Solid 4 may have
been an aweful stealth game, but it still had an outstanding story with great gameplay.

[Seahawk]

They are overhyped, but that doesn't make them bad games, Metal Gear Solid 4 may have
been an aweful stealth game, but it still had an outstanding story with great gameplay.

The story is the reason MGS4 sucks, there is more watching cutscenes (sometimes an hour long) than gameplay. The first 2 chapters are the only ones worth playing IMO. I couldn't wait for the rest to be over. Starts with a bang, ends with a thud.

[Dudebro]

Just saw this-
I wouldn't pay $5 for a new PSP or 360
I know you're being facetious but even so that's a pretty stupid thing to say. Only a complete moron would pass up a good deal.

[Slime Slayer]

So you would buy an ugly christmas sweater if it's 90% off?

[Dudebro]

No but that's not the same thing. A new 360 or PSP can be resold for a lot more than 5 bucks.

[Kugyince]

I was implying that if their MSRP was suddenly changed to $5 I still wouldn't want one. I'm sure their is something in the 360 library that I would want that could chage my mind. XBLA sounds cool.

[Dudebro]

I know you'd find plenty to love about the 360 library if you were inclined to check it out. I don't spend much money online but of the games I've downloaded it's all been totally worth it. The recent Castlevania game was pretty awesome even if it was a little short.

Btw I would buy a PSP for 5 bucks. That's a system I know I'd love but never wanted to spend the money on. I hate exclusive content. :(

So is 300$ the estimated price for the 3ds really? If so that thing better be awesome or it's gonna piss off a lot of people. Any word if it's games will cost more or not?

[Tails]

Hell I'd get a 360 for 5 bucks, I've been thinking about it but I got a PS3 to bulk up first. (DB is smiling)

[Kugyince]

Rumor is $250 for the 3DS and the games remain $30-$35 for feature titles.

PS3 is worth about $75 to me as I don't have a BR player. Plus they have 3D Dot Game Heroes.

[Dudebro]

(DB is smiling)
Don't quit your day job Nostrodamus. I don't care that much about it.



250$ is better but it's still kinda steep for a handheld, at least imo. I'll probably wait for a sale or some time to pass and buy it for half that. I hope they stay cool about the games being reasonably priced. That's a big selling point for me.

[Tails]

Don't quit your day job Nostrodamus. I don't care that much about it.
Nostrodamus?

Anyways thought you would.

[Dudebro]

Nostrodamus?

Anyways thought you would.
In this age of google and wikipedia there's really no excuse to have to ask. He's very famous and I'm kinda stunned you never heard of him. You should look it up.

Nope I don't care that much. I'll defend any of the consoles because I think they're all good in their own way. I just happen to get stuck defending the 360 because people like to pick on it, or me, who knows. I don't like consoles I like the games I play on them. We should only need one like a PC.

[Tails]

Well FF didn't pick it up so I assumed it was a misspell.

I agree about the PC and should just have handhelds.

[samejamesbond]

The story is the reason MGS4 sucks, there is more watching cutscenes (sometimes an hour long) than gameplay. The first 2 chapters are the only ones worth playing IMO. I couldn't wait for the rest to be over. Starts with a bang, ends with a thud.

I found the story very interesting, but none of the cutscenes are over 10 minutes in
length, but they do add up to over an hour and a half in screening.

Metal Gear Solid 3 had good moments too.

[Seahawk]

I found the story very interesting, but none of the cutscenes are over 10 minutes in
length, but they do add up to over an hour and a half in screening.

Metal Gear Solid 3 had good moments too.

Um, yes there are. After you defeat Raven in chapter 3 you are treated to many overly long and unnecessary scenes in sequence:

-Snake returning to bottom of tower back to Eva
-Liquid Ocelot's appearance and eventually toying and stabbing of Snake
-Liquid's retreat into the river, and subsequent activation of soldier's nanomachines
-Bullet's everywhere, Snake on fire, death of Eva

And THEN:
-Hard drive install of next chapter
-Mission briefing
-Mandatory MGS1 nightmare sequence

And then finally you are allowed to play the game again. All of the scenes combined total about an hour straight.
And don't tell me about cutscene skip, if the game is all about this convoluted story. And if it's your first time, you're not going to skip.

Let's not talk about the final chapter where you watch more movies and are on autopilot down a straight line to the end of the game, which is dragged out unnecessarily (OMG microwave corridor!) and really in the end comes down to two sad old men fighting over some steroids.

AND THEN the really, really long ending, which brings back too many useless plot elements and characters that never needed to come back (Zero from MGS3, Big Boss from MSX Metal Gear 2 who you killed by flamethrower-ing to death).

/rant

[CrispyChicken]

250 dollars for a handheld is pretty steep, but I think I will try to get it anyway. I am really looking forward for this system though I rather have the price down a bit.

I would buy a PSP for 5 bucks o.o I have one already though, but 5 bucks is too good of a deal to not take.

[samejamesbond]

I'd buy a good 5 dollar PSP even though I already have one, I could easily make 30 dollars with that.
Or it'd make a great gift.

[Kugyince]

How are you going to sell a PSP for $30 if they're retailing for $5?

Anyways, I'm sure there are some decent games for the PSP that might interest me I just can't think of a single one. There's not a single game on this list that interests me besides possibly Silent Hill: The Top 25 PSP Games of All Time - PSP Feature at IGN (http://psp.ign.com/articles/102/1023970p1.html)

[samejamesbond]

I'm sure I could sell a PSP at a pawn shop for some good cash.
Maybe not as good as I hope, but for a good price.

[Tails]

Tenser, try Disgaea!!!!

I highly reccomend Disgaea 2: DHD.

[Slime Slayer]

Tenser, try Disgaea!!!!

I highly reccomend Disgaea 2: DHD.

I think he has mentioned in the past that he hates RTS's.

[Kugyince]

Yeah, I'm no strategy fan.

[Tails]

That sucks. :(

[Kugyince]

If you want to point me towards something in the style of anime point me towards something corny and unique. I love off the wall crap like that. Action/adventures and jRPGS are great too.

Good example:
YouTube - SAKURA WARS: SO LONG, MY LOVE OFFICIAL TRAILER

[Tails]

You ever try Grandia Tenser?

[Kugyince]

Another example:

YouTube - Atlus USA Trailer: Trauma Team

[Demon-Mask]

@DM: The Third Party support is massive and is still growing, I mean Metal Gear Solid,
Resident Evil, and Megaman Legends 3 are all coming to the 3DS.
Was never a big Megaman Legends fan, I lost interest in Resident Evil at RE4, and you are now aware that I already stated that what has been shown so far of this MGS game has yet to interest me like the others have in the past.
Plain and simple, I am failing to see anything interesting in the library, lots of remakes and ports, a good portion of which are from games I am not a big fan of. Never got all that into Starfox 64, at least not as much as the first Starfox, you know my deal with Street Fighter. All that.
When you'll go as far as turning your back on one of favorite series of games simply because of the system it's being released on, then your fanboyism has dropped to some pretty low levels.
No, I am uninterested in a game of my favorite series because I have yet to see anything of it that I really want. Take into consideration this: from all the information I have, it is to be a remake/port of MGS3, a game which I enjoyed immensely, I've played through it four or five times, and I'll do it again.
The thing with the Metal Gear series is this: The guards are predictable, playing through MGS3 on the 3DS will be the same as Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes on the Gamecube. Good enough, but I've already gone through this room, I've already seen where this guard is hiding, I've already found out where the traps are, I already know the plan of attack the bosses use, I know where The End will hide, and I know where to hide from The Fury to get the best shots. I already know to wear the Raikov mask to score myself a free shot on Volgin. I already know the easiest way to find Raikov and knock him out so I can steal his clothes.
And yes, a bit of my lack of excitement towards this title is a console thing:
The PS2 had four face buttons, a D-Pad, two analog sticks and four shoulder buttons. All of these were put to good use and made for a game that had fairly fluid and natural controls. The 3DS will have four face buttons, a D-Pad, and analog nub and two shoulder buttons, in addition to a touchscreen. It stands to reason that the controls will be a bit awkward, sure the touchscreen could stand in for some buttons, but they would be positioned unnaturally in comparison to the rest of the buttons. This is my problem with the console and the game going together, not some Nintendo hate crap.

@DM: It's cool. Different strokes for different folks. I wouldn't pay $5 for a new PSP or 360 but if other people enjoy them, no problem.
I understand that, each console caters to a slightly different portion of the market. Not everyone is going to be happy with every console.

[Kugyince]

News on RE Mercenaries 3D Edition and RE Revelations
(http://www.capcom-unity.com/snow_infernus/blog/2010/12/08/news_on_re_mercenaries_3d_edition_and_re_revelatio ns)

Amazon.com: Nintendo 3DS: Video Games

[DrunkN]

I like how they didn't say anything interesting about Revelations.

[Kugyince]

I'm not excited about RE since 4. Thought others might be interested still. The boat idea is pretty good though.

[DrunkN]

I'm not excited about RE since 4. Thought others might be interested still. The boat idea is pretty good though.
I believe something was said about going back to the roots? All I need to know is if it's going to have a manipulative camera and I'm there dude.

[CrispyChicken]

I already want a lot of games for the 3DS o.o Paper Mario 4 being my most wanted, I am also very intrigued in 3D Kingdom Hearts which could come out for the 3DS in 2012.

[samejamesbond]

I didn't notice Paper Mario 4, now I'm more excited than ever.

[CrispyChicken]

Ive been wanting it since September (I think o.o) when I first heard of its announcement.

[samejamesbond]

Too bad I'm not getting a 3DS, the more I hear about it, the more I want it.

[Slime Slayer]

Stll gonna get SF4 with mine, I almost bought a 360 for SF4... but I couldnt bring myself to sleep with the enemy.

[samejamesbond]

What's wrong with the 360?

[Slime Slayer]

I don't like the games on it.

[samejamesbond]

Oh, I guess it's a mater of opinion.
I really like my 360.

[Kugyince]

I'll probably pick up Time Travelers at launch and maybe the Zelda: OoT remake.

Mega Man Legends 3 is almost a certain must buy when it comes out.

[Slime Slayer]

I was just perusing the wikipedia list of 3ds games and there is indeed an entry for Dragon Quest, fantastic. More than likely wont see it till 2012... that is if DQX sells more than an abysmal amount. Speaking of witch, I'm starting to worry a N.A. release of DQ Monsters Joker 2 might have been cancelled, still no release date announced, and it came out in JP back in april. Anyway the 3DS DQ might not even be part of the main series, all it says is Dragon Quest (working title). Here's hoping for some blue slimes in your face.

[Kugyince]

Official NA anouncement has been set as January 19th.

Happy birthday to me.

[Tails]

price?

[Demon-Mask]

I'll probably pick up Time Travelers at launch and maybe the Zelda: OoT remake.

Why not just make a whole new Zelda game. OoT was good and all, but not the best in the series, and it wouldn't be as fun going through the same game again.
I'm starting to worry a N.A. release of DQ Monsters Joker 2 might have been cancelled, still no release date announced, and it came out in JP back in april.
There is a lot of content in that game. That is a lot of translating. It takes time, and once it is translated, it must be submitted for rating. Go through testing to make sure no new bugs popped up {it happens}, and then they might withhold the release a bit until the market warms up a bit.
I'm not worried.
price?
The 3DS?
It's supposed to be in the neighborhood of $300.

[Kugyince]

the 3ds?
It's supposed to be in the neighborhood of $300.

$250.

[Slime Slayer]

There is a lot of content in that game. That is a lot of translating. It takes time, and once it is translated, it must be submitted for rating. Go through testing to make sure no new bugs popped up {it happens}, and then they might withhold the release a bit until the market warms up a bit.
I'm not worried.

There is no reason why the release date wouldnt be announced, 8 months is ample time to translate a game, not to mention that DQMJ does not have alot of content that needs to be translated, there is no voice acting and maybe 50 npc's who say 1 or 2 things each.

[Kugyince]

Ahem...


My 3DS is preordered!

Game Stop
$50
SKU - 020132 (You have to ask for the SKU)
You have to go back on the 19th to pick a color.

[Winnebagel]

Ahem...


My 3DS is preordered!

Game Stop
$50
SKU - 020132 (You have to ask for the SKU)
You have to go back on the 19th to pick a color.




Oh sweet! I need to go to mine to see if they are taking orders.

[Slime Slayer]

Oh sweet! I need to go to mine to see if they are taking orders.
Of all spoilers that don't work for me... can someone fill me in?

[Kugyince]

Of all spoilers that don't work for me... can someone fill me in?

Ahem...

My 3DS is preordered!

Game Stop
$50
SKU - 020132 (You have to ask for the SKU)
You have to go back on the 19th to pick a color.



Better?

[elrod21]

Much better. :D

[Kugyince]

@WB: All GameStops are accepting preorders. It's been posted on both GoNintendo and IGN.

[Slime Slayer]

Sweet, I'll preorder mine once I get back from holidays.

[Tails]

No money for it. Paying off comp still.