Metal Gear Solid: Rising Trailer

[samejamesbond]

At the Konami Conference, Kojima released the new MGS: Rising trailer.
This game looks insane, can't wait to get it!

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Metal Gear Solid: Rising Video Game, E3 2010: Debut Trailer | Game Trailers & Videos | GameTrailers.com (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-metal-gear/101271?type=flv)

[joz]

Looks great, but it seems far from a MG game. This trailer really doesn't show you infultrating anything in the dark. It looks like a hack and slash game.

[samejamesbond]

That isn't a bad thing though.

[joz]

It is when you have Metal Gear in the title. It's like making a Gran Tourismo game with nothing but instead of cars it has air planes.

[samejamesbond]

Mario Kart is the same story, and that rocked.

[Dudebro]

Mario Kart is the same story, and that rocked.
You're missing his point. Imagine a new Mario Kart game but this time it's an RPG with no Karts. I didn't even watch the trailer and I get what he means. Don't call it Metal Gear if it's not a stealth game like the previous ones.

[joz]

Mario Kart is the same story, and that rocked.


I've only played Mario Kart on the SNES, so I would have to take your word for it.

[jim5cents]

@DB

It is like the band A Perfect Circle. The singer and guitar player were in the band Tool, wanted to make a different kind of music, so instead of changing the music, they just made a different title for the band.

[joz]

@DB

It is like the band A Perfect Circle. The singer and guitar player were in the band Tool, wanted to make a different kind of music, so instead of changing the music, they just made a different title for the band.

There was never a name change from "Tool" to "A Perfect Circle." Those are two different bands. Maynard was simply in two bands for whatever reason.

[jim5cents]

Whatever, but the point is the same..the dude wanted to make a sound that was different than Tool, so instead of playing that music as Tool, he made another band.

Kojima has made a game that appears to be all about hacking away with a sword, so why call it Metal Gear?

This game could turn out to be a stealth game and I will be very willing to bet that it is a stealth game, but we have already seen that. The trailer was made to show off the sword + targeting with sword....and it looks awesome!!!!

[joz]

Whatever, but the point is the same..the dude wanted to make a sound that was different than Tool, so instead of playing that music as Tool, he made another band.

Kojima has made a game that appears to be all about hacking away with a sword, so why call it Metal Gear?

This game could turn out to be a stealth game and I will be very willing to bet that it is a stealth game, but we have already seen that. The trailer was made to show off the sword + targeting with sword....and it looks awesome!!!!

ok, don't have a cow man.

[samejamesbond]

ok, don't have a cow man.

Eye Carumba...

[jim5cents]

I did not have a cow. It's cool. Personally, I haven't listened to A Perfect Circle, so if you have, you would definately know more about it than me. Either way, it was the simile that I was going for.

[joz]

@Jim

I don't mean to be rude or in any way trying to offend you, but perhaps you should relate things that you know more about before actually relating it to anything. The similarity just didn't make sense to me. This is however simply a suggestion, you can do as you please.

Also, I actually can't figure out if you're "for" or "against" the MG title being used in an apperant "hack and slash..." just what exactly are you trying to say?

[jim5cents]

If the new game is a hack and slash with no stealth elements, I wouldn't want it to be called Metal Gear.
If there are stealth elements, then by all means, call it a Metal Gear game.

Let me spell out the similarity for you.
In this scenario, Keenan equals Kojima. Tool equals MGS franchise. Tool is identified with being a Progressive Rock/Metal Band. MGS is identified with begin a stealth combat game. If Keenan wanted to play a different kind of music, so he formed A Perfect Circle, which is identified as being an Alternative Band, correct? So, if Kojima was going to make a game that was not a stealth combat game, it would make sense to name it something other than MGS. Are we clear?

Now, we also have no clue what this game is going to turn out to be based on a 2 min. trailer.

My last post on this topic for fear that you and I will end up on the bickering page.

[Demon-Mask]

I am against the hack and slash idea when it comes to Metal Gear.
They even changed the phrase "Tactical Espionage Action" in the logo to "Lightning Bolt Action", implying that there is no need to be tactical or espionage-ish. Instead you just need to be fast. It almost looks like, by the trailer, that stealth is just the opposite of what you need to do in the game.
Metal Gear is stealth, it has been since the first one was released on the Japanese computer MSX in the late 1980s, and it has maintained it up to this point. They could at least change the word "Solid" in the title to show that it is a different gameplay style, like they did with Metal Gear Acid.

[samejamesbond]

It doesn't really matter, I bet they'll put stealth in somehow.

[Demon-Mask]

But did they with Metal Gear Acid?
Not really, it was a card based strategy game. I doubt it will be that different, but I don't think there will be as much emphasis on stealth as before. At least this time they had the decency to tell us about Raiden being the main character before you got partway through the game.

[Timber Wolf]

At least Raiden looks like a beast in this one. It could implement stealth, we don't know yet, it could be completely re-worked before it's released for all we know.

[samejamesbond]

That's right, Raiden isn't a pansy anymore.

[Demon-Mask]

It just doesn't seem they'd give us such cool fighting abilities, and have us run around in the dark.
I remember when Raiden got his katana in MGS 2, you did not need any stealth at all from that point on, as a matter of fact you were thrown into a constant stream of combat. I hope the katana is as fun to use as it was in MGS 2, where the right analog stick let you control the katana somewhat freely. Tilt the stick down, you slash down, tilt the stick right, you slash right and so on.

[samejamesbond]

Well, I can't wait, that's for sure.

[Kugyince]

@Jim: A Perfect Circle was a band created by Tool's guitar tech. They do not share the same guitarists. That's like saying Audioslave should have just been labled as Soundgarden.

[Demon-Mask]

You know what would be cool, if you played as Raiden for the beginning of the game, then they randomly dropped a new, super-lame character in his place. It's happened before in an MGS game, I didn't even know Raiden existed until he took of the helmet after getting into the big shell. He is dealt with under the codename of Snake in the cutscene before it, and while he has the helmet on, you only see a bit of his hair, but it isn't unheard of for a character to change hairstyle part way into a game.

[DrunkN]

This looks to be an excellent addition to the Devil May Cry series.

[Demon-Mask]

It would be a better fit for that series.

[DrunkN]

It would be a better fit for that series.
To be honest, I'll probably excuse this if it turns out to be a good game. I'll just be mad if it gets really popular, because it's going to have sequels and this whole thing will be exactly like resident evil.

[Demon-Mask]

That would really suck.

[samejamesbond]

That would rock, in my opinion of course.

[DrunkN]

That would really suck.
Well hey, on the flip side you have a really good game.

On the bad side of course, you have a really, really annoying fan base.

[samejamesbond]

Yeah, fan bases ruin alot of things...
But they can get things done too.

[Demon-Mask]

Like with Kingdom Hearts, the first was a really good game, but the fan base was annoying as hell, and they got worse with each game released.

[samejamesbond]

The fan base did get Setzer in, if I'm not mistaken.

[Demon-Mask]

The fan base also got Yuna from FFX in, so that takes down their worth.

[samejamesbond]

I don't see why people hate Yunaso much, she isn't that bad.

[Demon-Mask]

She was just annoying.
Okay, try this:
(Only considering MGS 2)
I don't see why people hated Raiden so much, he isn't that bad.
You see what I mean?
Sometimes a character just isn't that good, or doesn't belong in the series, or is just annoying.

[samejamesbond]

Point Taken.

[DrunkN]

Yeah, fan bases ruin alot of things...
Like Falcon Punch?

[samejamesbond]

No, like Ike from Fire Emblem, they turned him into a total loser!

[DrunkN]

No, like Ike from Fire Emblem, they turned him into a total loser!
Well. I give up. The boy ain't right.

Anyways, this game looks like it's going to be like the last and a Play Station exclusive. So screw it.

[samejamesbond]

It's for the Xbox too.

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[samejamesbond]

Yet another trailer about the cutting feature:
Metal Gear Solid: Rising Video Game, TGS 10: Free Cutting Walkthrough | Video Clip | Game Trailers & Videos | GameTrailers.com

[Demon-Mask]

The sword looks almost like it controls the same as the katana in MGS 2, if so that would be awesome.

[samejamesbond]

It does look that way.
This game is going to be for the PSN, Xbox 360, and PC.

[Demon-Mask]

It does look that way.
This game is going to be for the PSN, Xbox 360, and PC.

If figured someone might want to see that for a third consecutive post.

Just PSN, not a regular disk release on the PS3?

[samejamesbond]

I meant Playstation 3, thanks.

[Demon-Mask]

No problem.
Hey, you deleted that double post, you jerk!

[samejamesbond]

Sorry. ;)

[fenrir1887]

If the game sucks, all of you will probably feel silly. I'm not sill to jump on that.

[Demon-Mask]

I don't have an opinion on whether it will be good or not, at least not yet.

I was just observing the fact that it would be cool if it had the same dual analog katana controls as MGS2 did.
But that would get bothersome after a while, you know it is cool to control a weapon like that, but after a while it would get old.

[StarfoxFan2009]

I'm going to wait to see if this game is good or not...

@SJB -1 for insinuating Ike's a loser :P

[samejamesbond]

I never said Ike sucks, I said the fan reaction to him sucks.

Great, now I'm the most hated RU member...

[StarfoxFan2009]

if that was your intentions, next time put quotations or something ok?

Also, is Raiden the main character for this?

[samejamesbond]

Yeah, he's the main character.

[fenrir1887]

Better hope that don't kill the game. A lot of people like Snake better.

[samejamesbond]

He looks alot tougher than his MGS2 appearance.

[fenrir1887]

That will play out. We'll see what happens.

[samejamesbond]

You have seen his MGS4 apperance right?

[fenrir1887]

Only where I could find pictures of it. Not too many of them.

[samejamesbond]

You should see the videos, he's godly.