Gametrailers: Top 10 games of the decade.

[samejamesbond]

The last 10 years of gaming have shaked the gaming world with outstanding
releases and iconic new characters. But only a few can be called the "Top 10"

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[Demon-Mask]

"Only a few can be called the top ten", you say?

Not a bad list, but I'd have rather not seen Halo on there at all, or World of Warcraft as number one.

[samejamesbond]

How so?
Halo changed the industry dramatically.

[Dudebro]

You may not like them but Halo and WoW are huge games of this decade. Has any other game done as well as WoW? Think of how many millions of people play it around the world even though it's subscription based.
Halo is hard to deny as well. It may not be the biggest seller ever but there's no denying the immense popularity it has.

[Demon-Mask]

So you're saying that Halo did the most for first person shooters, and that it was a top ten game? I can see it on the list, because of how many people liked it, but only at nine or ten.

[Dudebro]

I think Halo made FPS mainstream so yeah it was a huge contribution to the FPS industry. It sounds like you are bias because you hate the game. Ignore how you feel about it personally and look at the way it changed things.

[Demon-Mask]

No, it's not just my hate of the game, I just didn't think it was anything special, even in terms of it's impact.

World of Warcraft just isn't really a 'number one' kind of game. It is simply good, like Double Dragon.

[Dudebro]

No, it's not just my hate of the game, I just didn't think it was anything special, even in terms of it's impact.It doesn't matter what you think, it did have a huge impact. I agree it wasn't ground breaking or anything but that changes nothing.

World of Warcraft just isn't really a 'number one' kind of game. It is simply good, like Double Dragon.It's like you're completely ignoring the domination that is WoW. No other game can even come close to the amount of people playing and paying for the service. I don't even like WoW but I can accept that it's an undeniable top game of this decade. Name another game that did better?

[CatalystiCam]

most of the list was mediocre.

[jim5cents]

the only issues i have is with re4 being at number 3 and devil may cry being on the list at all. i would argue that either fallout 3 or oblivion should be in the devil may cry slot. shadow of the collessus is an amazing choice.

most of the list was mediocre.

don't hate because top gear didn't make the list, every game on that list is fantastic

[Dudebro]

devil may cry being on the list at all.
I didn't watch the video so I missed this. I agree, what's so special about it? I can't think of anything that would make it best of anything.

[Demon-Mask]

So, you can say Devil May Cry shouldn't have been on the list, but I can't say Halo shouldn't be on the list?

[jim5cents]

sure you can say that, i will say you are wrong and all that.

devil may cry is a good game, but lets face facts. it is a button masher. halo had a major impact on the video game industry. may fps mainstream, plus gave the xbox its legs to stand up on.

i would say that a game that is both innovative and successful would be a better selection for that list, oblivion/fallout 3 (you can mix and match those titles), guitar hero, the sims, would all be a better choice than dmc.

[Dudebro]

I asked why Devil May Cry was on the list. After watching the video I can see their point but I don't agree with it.

You can say w/e you want about the list but Halo and WoW are two huge games that are obviously a big impact on gaming. I think to say otherwise you have to have some bias, like I have with DMC.

[jim5cents]

i would also add that either wii fit or wii sports could appear in place dmc. they have had a much, much bigger impact in light of 1. innovation with motion control, 2. the audience they bring to the table.

i get that part of the reason behind dmc is also the volume of dmc clones that have been released which is good, because it stands as a marker to its legacy, but that legacy still falls well short of the top ten.

every other game on that list i can see on being on a top 100 of all time list, dmc doesn't make a top 100 list, so how can you possible have it on this top ten list.

[Dudebro]

I can see the point about DMC making the list. It's not something I'm into so I can't accurately judge it's worthiness.
About the DMC clones, WoW has many more examples of that. Pretty much every MMO has copied it and some even advertise that way.

[Kugyince]

WoW didn't do anything that hasn't been done before.

[Dudebro]

Yeah I guess it's so wildly popular because people are just stupid?

[TrakMastaTom]

I don't think Halo belongs on this list.


Here's why:
Halo didn't really do anything for first person shooters. It just did something for consoles, but not really that much. Halo was a generic first person shooter, but one of the best you could find on a console at that time. But it did nothing PC games hadn't been doing for years. LAN parties were nothing new, co-op campaigns were nothing new, it had all been done before. I'll admit that Halo made it super mainstream, but so what? I don't think it affected gaming's progression much at all.

[Kugyince]

Yeah I guess it's so wildly popular because people are just stupid?

You called them stupid, not I. I simply stated that WoW has accomplished nothing new in the field of MMORPGs.

Enjoying a game doesn't make someone stupid. Why would you think that way?

[Dudebro]

I assume that's what you mean because you didn't give any real reasons.

WoW changed the MMO scene dramatically and made it accessable for millions of people who never played MMOs before. It blows Everquest and all the others out of the water. That being said I've never played or and I don't really like it.

[TrakMastaTom]

I've never played WOW, but being popular doesn't necessarily make something different or interesting. The Spice Girls sold more records than your favorite band. So think about that.

[Dudebro]

But it's popular because of how good it is. It's very user friendly, it allows for solo or group play, has many options to pay for the service, constant updates both free and fee, highly involved devs and they advertise well. It's a well made game by a great company and they market towards the casual and hardcore gamer. It deserves the number 1 spot for sure. It may not be innovative for gameplay(although people would argue that) but it's innovative for gaming in general.

[Kugyince]

WoW changed the MMO scene dramatically and made it accessable for millions of people who never played MMOs before.

People had difficulty accessing EverQuest and Ultima Online?

[samejamesbond]

I don't see why Devil May Cry doesn't deserve a place on this list, it created a brand new
genre that is still being imitated today in God of War, Ninja Gaiden, or Bayonetta.

[jim5cents]

The Spice Girls sold more records than your favorite band.

they sold more records than the beatles?

[Dudebro]

People had difficulty accessing EverQuest and Ultima Online?
Not actually accessing it to play but yeah those games had a steep learning curve and required a time commitment that most people aren't ready to give to an MMO. It's like how Windows made PCs more accessible to the average user. Blizzard was smart and focused on ease of use and casual play while balancing it with end game content for the more dedicated users.

Like I said before I never played WoW, I played FFXI. Being the direct competition I've read/heard a lot about why it was so damn good. FFXI is an awesome game but it's difficult and time consuming. You can't just log in for an hour and get much done, same for most traditional MMOs. WoW turned that on it's head.

TMT has a point about popularity not equaling good. Maria Carey passed Elvis for hit singles or w/e and I think she sucks. I also think Elvis sucks but that's not important really. ;)

[Kugyince]

So lessening the learning curve for an MMO means it deserves to be ranked as the best game of the decade?

[Dudebro]

I think making it more user friendly and gaining millions of fans makes it deserving of the top 10. What makes it deserve the number one is how smart the devs were in making a game that appeals to pretty much everyone. All ages, any time constraints, any level of gaming skill. The only complaint I hear is from the hardcore MMO people who say it's too easy. For them I bet it is, but WoW has an unreal amount of content that would be missed by burning through the game as fast as possible.

I feel weird defending this game since I've never even played it. I just don't see how anyone can deny how big of an impact WoW has had on gaming and culture in general. Pretty much everyone knows about WoW by now. It's a household name.

[Kugyince]

I think making it more user friendly and gaining millions of fans makes it deserving of the top 10. What makes it deserve the number one is how smart the devs were in making a game that appeals to pretty much everyone.

We disagree on both of these points.

The same thing could be said of Wii Sports but I wouldn't want it on this list either.

[Dudebro]

Well besides just the sales figures you can't deny it's impact on society.

[samejamesbond]

They even made a South Park episode on WoW.

[Kugyince]

Well besides just the sales figures you can't deny it's impact on society.

Again, as with Wii Sports.

They even made a South Park episode on WoW.

They made two South Park episodes on Wii Sports is what a quick Google search told me.

Again, I don't want Wii Sports on the list. I'm simply using it as an example.

[samejamesbond]

World of Warcraft made more money than Wii Sports.

[Dudebro]

Again, as with Wii Sports.
Well it's hard to deny the impact of the Wii and it's featured titles. I wouldn't count Sports though since it's bundled with the system. WiiFit might be a better example.

[Kugyince]

Now that you mention it, Wii Fit might actually deserve to be on the list.

@sjb: Your point is?

[Dudebro]

Now that you mention it, Wii Fit might actually deserve to be on the list.
Wouldn't bother me at all really.

[samejamesbond]

I thought you were basing Wii Sports stature on sales alone.

[jim5cents]

so, we will use wii fit for the argument.

it (wii fit) has brought a ton of new gamers to the table that might not have otherwise been exposed to gaming.
wow has brought a ton of new gamers to the table that might not have otherwise been exposed to mmo's

so what is the difference?

also, if you are going to put an mmo on the list, it has to be wow. this list concerns the decade 2000-09. everquest (aka rat hunter 3D) was in the 90's.

it is a game that has a huge following, is fun, and most importantly imo, has transended pop culture, whether you are talking about south park, mr. t, jeopardy questions, or ...YouTube - Leeroy Jenkins

[Kugyince]

Wii Fit basically created a new genre. You can argue gimmicks like the Power Pad but you'd fail for even attempting it.

WoW created nothing new.

WiiFit is in schools, doctor's offices, used in physical therapy and other parts of the health profession. There's even one in the White House.

[Dudebro]

WoW created nothing new.
Is that your only criteria for best game of the decade? Not every awesome game innovated.

[Kugyince]

Not the only prerequisite but certainly a prerequisite none the less.

[samejamesbond]

Twilight Princess brought nothing new, why aren't you panning it?

[Kong]

if you are going to put an mmo on the listAnd I think you have to. If MMO was not the most popular genre of the decade it was close.

However I think Flash games might have been the most played game type of the decade. Maybe one of them would at least deserve an honorable mention.

[Kugyince]

Twilight Princess brought nothing new, why aren't you panning it?

Was it on the list? If so it shouldn't have been.

[samejamesbond]

Twilight Princess was #10.
Then Super Mario Galaxy at #9.

[TrakMastaTom]

You barely even like modern games Tenser. You want to put Wii Fit on this list, but there is something you may be forgetting: Wii Fit isn't very fun.

Was it on the list? If so it shouldn't have been.

Let's hear your list then.

[Kugyince]

I thought you were suppose to be a genius TMT? It'd be a pretty lame list since I don't own a GameCube, 180, 360, PS2, or PS3...

[Slime Slayer]

I thought you were suppose to be a genius TMT? It'd be a pretty lame list since I don't own a GameCube, 180, 360, PS2, or PS3...
Scary as it may seem we are alot alike.

---------- Post added at 08:54 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:52 AM ----------

Video game wise I mean.

[Kugyince]

You got the hots for me. It's okay to admit it.

[TrakMastaTom]

I thought you were suppose to be a genius TMT?

I don't follow.


It'd be a pretty lame list since I don't own a GameCube, 180, 360, PS2, or PS3... So what you are saying is...you are not qualified to make a list/could not make a better list?!
:foot-in-mouth:

[Demon-Mask]

Twilight Princess was #10.
Then Super Mario Galaxy at #9.
Wow, these are okay games, but they didn't do much new. Super Mario Galaxy simply introduced an interesting engine, and Twilight Princess managed to get delayed enough for me to question if it was to ever be released.

[samejamesbond]

I think they deserve a place on this list.
Super Mario Galaxy is one of the greatest platformers of all time.

[Kugyince]

So what you are saying is...you are not qualified to make a list/could not make a better list?!
:foot-in-mouth:

Correct. What's your point?

Oh, you're insinuating that I shouldn't form a negative opinion of someone else's list because I can not make one of my own? If so that's a very, very stupid point.

[Demon-Mask]

Yes, good point Tenser, you don't need to be able to produce something better to form a negative opinion.

Example:
I don't think Halo is particularly enjoyable, but I cannot make a better game, so that makes my opinion invalid? Of course, according to a good portion of people, my dislike of Halo is invalid because so many people liked it.

[Dudebro]

Of course, according to a good portion of people, my dislike of Halo is invalid because so many people liked it.
Anyone who says your dislike is invalid is just stupid. I think your dismissal of Halo as having a big impact is invalid though.

[Demon-Mask]

Yes, it had an impact, but it wasn't anything new, we'd been shooting from a view behind the gun for years by then.

[Dudebro]

Well only Tenser is claiming that innovation is a requirement of best game. People have been jumping on platforms since the 80s but we don't dismiss newer platformers for copying Mario bros(or do we?).

[Kugyince]

I have said that innovation should be one of the prerequisites for a best game of the decade.

A fun, highly engaging, great game does not have to be innovative.

[Dudebro]

I didn't say it's your only requirement, did I?

[Kugyince]

No, but I wanted to clarify that I'm not saying its the only requirement. I also wanted to assert that I feel non-innovative games can be great as well.

[fungusman]

I'm not even going to watch this, why be trolled by idiot game journalist who don't know anything at all about video games?

[Dudebro]

I'm not even going to watch this, why be trolled by idiot game journalist who don't know anything at all about video games? Because it can be fun to discuss how stupid the list is?

[Demon-Mask]

Well only Tenser is claiming that innovation is a requirement of best game. People have been jumping on platforms since the 80s but we don't dismiss newer platformers for copying Mario bros(or do we?).
If a game is good, it doesn't need to be new, but if something is supposedly so great, I'd expect more than the tired, old formula that's been around since before Doom. Like I've said in some thread here, sometime:

Halo is merely a good game.
(I probably also compared it to other things I think are overrated like The Beatles, Double Dragon and Solid Snake)

[TrakMastaTom]

Correct. What's your point?

Oh, you're insinuating that I shouldn't form a negative opinion of someone else's list because I can not make one of my own? If so that's a very, very stupid point.

No, my point is that if your list would be lame, how would you recognize a good list, and what qualifications do you have to say WOW doesn't belong at number 1? You said yourself that if it was up to you it would be lame.

My point is what do you know? :)

[Kugyince]

You're still saying the same exact thing no matter how you phrase it. So basically since I haven't played every single A title I should just roll over and accept it.

If your movie would be lame, how could you recognize a good movie, and what qualifications do you have to say what movie should be #1?

"Oh, FOX news said all the republicans are right and all the democrats are wrong. Since I can't create a better newscast myself it must be true!"

What happens when there's two conflicting lists? Should I automatically believe both are true since I'm not allowed to question the choices made on either or does the latter list super cede the prior?

[TrakMastaTom]

I'm just saying if you've never played it how do you know it doesn't belong on this list? Seems like a pretty valid point to me.

[Slime Slayer]

I've never seen the movie "Glitter" but I'm pretty sure it sucks. (Okay A bit of an extreme example)

[TrakMastaTom]

Well if we're comparing it to movies it's more like disagreeing with a list of the top movies from 2009 when you didn't see any of them, just watched the trailers.

[Tails]

I think they deserve a place on this list.
Super Mario Galaxy is one of the greatest platformers of all time.
Boy, we can't agree on anything can we?

I don't like Mario 64, Sunshine, OR Galaxy. Gimme original Mario like NSMB:Wii :D

[Kugyince]

I'm just saying if you've never played it how do you know it doesn't belong on this list? Seems like a pretty valid point to me.

What are you talking about?!?!

I have stated that I don't think WoW or Twilight Princess should be on the list. (I have played WoW and own Twilight Princess.)

You asked me if I could make a better list. I said no because I don't own a 180, 360, PS2, PS3, or GC. (I have not questioned any games listed on those systems.)

You then came back and said that I wasn't allowed to critique the list because I couldn't make a better one. I, of course, mocked this opinion as retarded.

Either you've realised your opinion was stupid and are attempting to dodge it, have no clue what you're talking about, or you're drunk/high.

[samejamesbond]

A bit harsh don't you think Tenser?

[Tails]

That's Tenser though.

[samejamesbond]

Everyone has limits.

[Dudebro]

I don't think Tenser was too harsh. He may a little frustrated but nothing bad imo.

[samejamesbond]

Alright, I'll take your word for it.

[Tails]

Alright, I'll take your word for it.
New catchphrase?

[samejamesbond]

I really say it that often?
Alright, I'll take your word for it.

[TrakMastaTom]

I have played WoW
My mistake.


Either you've realised your opinion was stupid and are attempting to dodge it, have no clue what you're talking about, or you're drunk/high.

Probably all 3.

[warghoul]

This is bringing back an old thread but whoa this list is bad
Where's Oblivion

[Dudebro]

You're right this list is terrible. Devil May Cry is on there but not something like Oblivion, lame.

[barnawesome]

I voted for RE4 because i loved it .The legend of Zelda the twilight Princess I thought was odd,the end boss on Metroid Prime was really hard,World of Warcraft is to Confusing,I just don't really like the Halo games,and all the other games I haven't played.

[Slime Slayer]

I went with GTA 3. Of the games on this list, I'd say it's the best for when it came out and what you could do in it. I used the game as more of a nick-nack then a game though, as in all I did was hop in a car and try to find all the super sweet jumps, this alone was enough to make it funner than any other game on the list for me. That being said, my top ten list would not have a single game that this one does.

[samejamesbond]

I'm suprised no one voted for Devil May Cry, that game was outstanding.

[Dudebro]

If anyone voted for DMC over the games on that list they'd be fooling themselves or being outright dishonest. I'm not saying it's horrible but it's up against some pretty big titles that are well known and well loved.

[samejamesbond]

I saw you voted for DMC2 on the worst sequels thread, I thought you said you played DMC1.
No wonder you hate the series.

[Dudebro]

Not sure I follow your reasoning here. I did play the first one. I remember at least watching someone else play the sequel(and it didn't impress me at all). I hate the series because it doesn't appeal to me. Big flashy nonsense centered around an metrosexual demon or w.e he is. What are you saying?

[StarfoxFan2009]

I voted RE 4. some of the other games on the list i have never played except Halo and world Of Warcraft

[warghoul]

Big flashy nonsense centered around an metrosexual demon or w.e he is.

That made me laugh pretty hard.

[samejamesbond]

I was jumping to conclusions based on your vote in the Top 10 Worst Sequels.
Forget it.

[Dudebro]

I'm still confused but I don't wanna bother with this subject again. For a character I hate I've spent way too much time talking about him in the past.

[Demon-Mask]

Never played Twilight Princess, Super Mario Galaxy, Half-Life 2 or Metroid Prime. Only played a very brief amount of Shadow of the Colossus, not enough to make any kind of judgment.

Devil May Cry is awesome, but I really don't think it was one of the best games of the decade. Halo isn't the worst game ever, but I didn't like it all too much. I didn't like Resident Evil 4, it was a case of completely changing a series that didn't need changing. GTA III is alright, but more for a quick burst here and there, not a good story, bad targeting, iffy controls. World of Warcraft is more along the lines of "worst games of the decade", along with just about every other MMO I've played.

Needless to say, I voted other.

I think Metal Gear Solid 3 should have been on the list. Yeah, yeah I know, I sound like a broken record with the Metal Gear thing. Interesting survival gameplay, well executed controls, a good story and so on make for a good game.

I also think The World Ends With You should have been on this list, but no one can stand a JRPG that isn't called "Final Fantasy", or one that isn't part of a series, or has new mechanics. Everyone always whines about how overdone turn-based battles are, then about how overly complex anything new is.

[pieman124]

I voted for Mario Galaxy. Considering it's the only one I have played, I guess that would be my favorite. But not even that I thought it was a great game and it was one of my favorites.

[RU Joe]

Other.
I like the last generation console games.
{no, really Joe?}
Too many games to choose just one but that's how it is with me, I like variety.

[Jason L. Davis]

I have to disagree, GoldenEye changed the way we game as far as FPS and made it mainstream, WoW is out because 2/3 of the players ( Millions Around The World ) are mostly younger than 14!! Id say the main games that have had an impact over the past decade have been GTA Series, CoD Series and ALL of the Guitar Hero Submissions!

[Slime Slayer]

I have to disagree, GoldenEye changed the way we game as far as FPS and made it mainstream, WoW is out because 2/3 of the players ( Millions Around The World ) are mostly younger than 14!! Id say the main games that have had an impact over the past decade have been GTA Series, CoD Series and ALL of the Guitar Hero Submissions!

Golden Eye is over-rated. Doom deserves 90% of the credit for the FPS genre.

[Dudebro]

Nah you have to give credit where it's due. Golden Eye and Perfect Dark really helped the FPS genre take off, on consoles. I think it was mainly because of the fun multiplayer. Doom had multiplayer too but it was more raw, less variety.

[Slime Slayer]

Nah you have to give credit where it's due. Golden Eye and Perfect Dark really helped the FPS genre take off, on consoles. I think it was mainly because of the fun multiplayer. Doom had multiplayer too but it was more raw, less variety.

Yes, but Doom mapped out how it's done. All the heavy lifting was done by Carmak. It's like a guy who dredged through a thick jungle with a machete, and everyone else just followed his path.

[Dudebro]

There's no arguing what Doom did for the genre. My point is GE and PD improved the path and got more people to take it.

[Slime Slayer]

There's no arguing what Doom did for the genre. My point is GE and PD improved the path and got more people to take it.

Point taken, however in no way should Goldeneye be held in higher regard then Doom.

[Dudebro]

Who's saying it should be?

[Slime Slayer]

Who's saying it should be?

Thousands of people, probably millions, all over the world.

[Dudebro]

Oh so you mean anecdotal "evidence" like gamefaqs polls? Ok then I got my own anecdote, I've never heard/read anyone making that claim. I guess we cancel each other out?

[Slime Slayer]

My point is that Doom doesn't get the credit it deserves. What's your point?

[Dudebro]

My point is I've never seen that to be true. Doom is widely recognized as the father of modern FPS games. Or mother, w/e.

[Slime Slayer]

Watch this documentary and see if you still feel the same way:
A Visit to id Software (Part 1/3) - YouTube
A Visit to id Software (Part 2/3) - YouTube
A Visit to id Software (Part 3/3) - YouTube

[DrunkN]

Watch this documentary and see if you still feel the same way:
Where in those videos did anyone say that Doom is not important to FPS evolution?

[Slime Slayer]

Where in those videos did anyone say that Doom is not important to FPS evolution?

My point is that Doom does not get the respect it deserves, watch the videos, and see if you have any new found respect for it.

[Bentley]

So this list gets to be based on entirely historical influence or does quality of the game in question counts? Because while great games tend to be the starters of important trends they aren't always the best games in their respective genre that were spawned during that decade.

[Dudebro]

@Steven- So you want me to watch those videos(which I've already seen) to get a better appreciation for a game I already called the father and/or mother of modern FPS? I don't get it.

@Bentley- I'm not sure how Gametrailers decided on these but I think most of us agree they didn't do a great job.

[DrunkN]

My point is that Doom does not get the respect it deserves, watch the videos, and see if you have any new found respect for it.
Doom is a classic with fun, on the fly combat. It's very enjoyable and was the foundation on which ID Software made games like Quake. I don't need to watch some documentary of the developers to know that.

[Slime Slayer]

For christs sake, are you guys dense? For the third time I will repeat myself: "I don't think Doom gets the credit it deserves" Is that such a hard concept to grasp?

[DrunkN]

For christs sake, are you guys dense? For the third time I will repeat myself: "I don't think Doom gets the credit it deserves" Is that such a hard concept to grasp?
I think I might just have to settle out of the conversation with "I don't get it."

You seem volley back and forth between the ideas that "People don't respect Doom." and "We don't respect Doom." whenever anyone addresses either idea.

I'm given to believe that you're trolling right now, but at the same time I could believe that you really are this convinced that everyone else is short sighted.

[Slime Slayer]

"I don't get it."

I never once suggested either: "People don't respect Doom." and "We don't respect Doom." Where do you see me saying that?

So again, for the fourth time now I will repeat myself, "I don't think Doom gets the credit it deserves", how can you not understand that? Stop trying to attribute other factors to it, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

[Dudebro]

Well maybe you should stop listening to gamefaqs opinions? I always see Doom and Wolfenstein credited over stuff like goldeneye.

I just did a couple google searches and 99% of the FPS lists have Doom and Wolfenstein on there. Goldeneye too but for console only reasons.

[Slime Slayer]

Well maybe you should stop listening to gamefaqs opinions?
The only time I ever go to Gamefaqs is for a faq/walkthrough if I ever get stuck in a game. My opinion is not based on anything specific, just my own intuition based on the data I have retained over the last 20 years. I know that Doom does get a ton of credit, but I don't think the average gamer has a good understanding of just how incredible of an accomplishment it was.

[Dudebro]

Oh so this is like your thing with atheism. You see some people(reddit) being mean therefore most atheists are mean. Facts and research be damned. Anecdotal evidence ftw!

[Slime Slayer]

Oh so this is like your thing with atheism. You see some people(reddit) being mean therefore most atheists are mean. Facts and research be damned. Anecdotal evidence ftw!

Anything to add to the conversation? Or just more of your slander?

[Dudebro]

I am adding to the conversation. You're having another "gut feeling not based in reality" moment and I wanted the readers to be aware so they can make sense of your last few posts.