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Blue Shoe 2
11-21-2009, 10:36 PM
this is an intresting debate in the process. All the time, in America, people ask me "wtf is a 'zed'?" and i always forget that it is apparently pronounced "zee" in America. i just wanna see other's opinion.

for me its: Zed!

Dojah
11-21-2009, 10:47 PM
For me its Z(zee).

Billy Hoyle
11-21-2009, 10:49 PM
Are you talking about the letter 'z'?

david man45
11-21-2009, 10:51 PM
Z

samejamesbond
11-21-2009, 10:54 PM
It's a zee to me.

DrunkN
11-22-2009, 02:12 AM
It used to be Zee for me, but upon hearing of this, I shall now teach myself to say Zed.

Dudebro
11-22-2009, 05:49 AM
As far as I know it's just Z in all English speaking languages. I think calling it Zed sounds stupid to be honest, doesn't seem to fit.

Btw is this really a debate?

mj23
11-22-2009, 09:12 AM
zed is the french word for z

OldTimer
11-22-2009, 09:26 AM
May sound stupid but some countries use it. Canada uses both.

JKool
11-22-2009, 10:27 AM
I say Z.

Tails
11-22-2009, 10:36 AM
Z here, shorter, and to the point.

zarny
11-22-2009, 10:58 AM
I use Z.
I only use zed when I'm speaking in french.

CatalystiCam
11-22-2009, 12:16 PM
zed is the french word for z

No

May sound stupid but some countries use it. Canada uses both.

No, we were forced by schools to say zed when we first started singing the alphabet.

Demon-Mask
11-22-2009, 02:39 PM
For me it has always been Z.

Slime Slayer
11-22-2009, 03:09 PM
zed eh?

TrakMastaTom
11-22-2009, 07:50 PM
Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead.

Dudebro
11-22-2009, 10:21 PM
Topic moved since there's no debate here. If that changes I can move it back.

Blue Shoe 2
11-22-2009, 11:16 PM
aww man, i wanted to start a debate:'(

Dudebro
11-22-2009, 11:21 PM
You still can. I moved it because there isn't a debate at the moment.

Billy Hoyle
11-22-2009, 11:41 PM
If you use 'zed', how would you pronounce 'zoo'?

'Zed-oo'?

Slime Slayer
11-23-2009, 12:19 AM
from wiki:
In most English-speaking countries, such as Canada or even England itself, it is said 'Zed', making it the more proper pronunciation.

Dudebro
11-23-2009, 12:38 AM
That's fine and all but in spoken English it makes no sense. I've never heard anyone use it and that includes Brits.

DrunkN
11-23-2009, 01:19 AM
Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead.
http://trekmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/hesdeadjim.jpg

Is it just the letter, as in "ex huy zed(xyz)" or is it for words too like "zedebra(zebra)"?

Slime Slayer
11-23-2009, 01:34 AM
we say zedbra, is that weird? dont you americans use the pronuncuation of letters in the words? like doudbleyouoodchuck?

DrunkN
11-23-2009, 02:00 AM
we say zedbra, is that weird? dont you americans use the pronuncuation of letters in the words? like doudbleyouoodchuck?
What can I say, Elmo and Big Bird never me told diddly about Zed.::)

Dudebro
11-23-2009, 02:34 AM
In Spanish it's Zeta, it still doesn't matter though when you speak or type in English.

Billy Hoyle
11-23-2009, 06:31 PM
we say zedbra, is that weird? dont you americans use the pronuncuation of letters in the words? like doudbleyouoodchuck?

Yes, that's very weird. Blame Canada.

Kugyince
11-23-2009, 08:17 PM
I think zed is more common in English speaking countries. I pronounce it as zee though.

@Cam: My grandfather who was Canuck always taught me it was zed in Canuck-speak. Could it be regional? He grew up near Montreal.

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@DeadTears: I think your topic title in confusing some people. I'll fix it for you.

Blue Shoe 2
11-28-2009, 08:50 PM
alright, Z (zee) is just confusing. so, i motion to have usage of Z punishable by being forced to play cheetahmen.

All in favor?

samejamesbond
11-28-2009, 09:33 PM
Not cheetahman 2?

RU Joe
11-28-2009, 09:43 PM
Dead_Tears:
All the time, in America, people ask me "wtf is a 'zed'?"
This is interesting, because if we recall that character from the 'Men in Black' movies,

http://www.homevideos.com/freezeframes3/mib69.jpeg

he was a 'Zed', so if what Dead_Tears said at the beginning of the thread is true, then how come this character was not called 'Zee'?

Is it because this character was named 'Zee'?

http://www.kalamu.com/bol/wp-content/content/images/nona%20gaye.jpg

(Zee, from the Matrix: Revolutions)

DrunkN
11-28-2009, 11:31 PM
alright, Z (zee) is just confusing. so, i motion to have usage of Z punishable by being forced to play cheetahmen.

All in favor?
I!:bye:

Blue Shoe 2
11-29-2009, 05:14 PM
I!:bye:
Aye! okay, voting closed, law passed!

samejamesbond
11-29-2009, 06:12 PM
alright, Z (zee) is just confusing. so, i motion to have usage of Z punishable by being forced to play cheetahmen.

All in favor?

I thought the 8th ammendment says no cruel or unusual punishment.

Blue Shoe 2
11-29-2009, 06:53 PM
I thought the 8th ammendment says no cruel or unusual punishment.

http://jeffpicard.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/rim-shot-johnny-utah.jpg


Are you gonna be here all week?

samejamesbond
11-29-2009, 07:19 PM
Where did you get that picture?

Blue Shoe 2
11-29-2009, 07:36 PM
Where did you get that picture? I googled rimshot.

Kugyince
11-29-2009, 07:39 PM
Fun Fact: You can't beat Cheetahmen II without hacking the ROM.

RU Joe
11-29-2009, 07:45 PM
Now you guys have finally made me curious enough to go play this
'Cheetahmen 2'
game - to see if what you say is true.

Alright, I went and checked out the game for about 1 minute, and that's enough.
That is one of the worst video games I have seen.
(worse than Jekll and Hyde, since at least you can play that one if you know how.)

Tails:
How did you even play that game, let alone get such a high score?
All I could get the cheetah man to do was walk.

samejamesbond
11-29-2009, 07:55 PM
Cheetah men 2 is a learning process,

You learn games can get that bad.

Only E.T. and Superman 64 are worse. (Yes I've played both of them.)

Edit - Tails how do I put this?,
HOW ON EARTH DID YOU GET THAT HIGH SCORE?

Kugyince
11-29-2009, 08:06 PM
E.T. is actually a good game if you know what to do and factor in it's timeframe.

samejamesbond
11-29-2009, 08:11 PM
The pits are so fustrating Tenser, how could you like this game?

It's especially annoying when the FBI agent takes you away and all the pieces of the phone.
The time limit only makes things worse.
I could never get the timing for the pits.

The E.T. song was burned into my head because of this game.

My cousin's husband who has the Atari 2600 said the game was a waist of time and repetitive.

Kugyince
11-29-2009, 08:39 PM
My first assumption is that people who are playing E.T. were not playing it for the first time in 1983. An objective look at E.T. proves it is not the awful game people claim it to be. Along with Adventure, it was one of the few games with a quest to fulfill and an actual ending. It had a relatively large gaming world with secret areas (wells) and human interaction. It may seem lousy to some in 2000, but in '83 this game was revolutionary.

You assumed the role of E.T., who was trying to get home. To do so, you had to assemble pieces of telephone then get into a field marked with an alien symbol and call home. The telephone pieces were found throughout the world and hidden in wells. While you are questing for the phone pieces, you are being chased by FBI agents trying to put ET away. Your friend Eliot helps you by leaving Reese's Pieces which will speed up ET so he can run away from the bad guys. You can also find a flower that you can bring back to life by using your awesome power of raising your neck.

This really is not a bad game. I noticed other reviews simply bash this game saying ''It sucks'' and the graphics are bad. Actually, for Atari these graphics are pretty good. There are a lot of boards to explore and the human characters are as good as the 2600 gets. Once you play this game and understand what you are doing, it is really fun. It is a quest game along the line of Adventure, only more in depth. My only assumption is that these people did not have an instrection manual, which would make the game very hard to understand.

One of the last advanced Atari 2600 carts, this one was released in 1983 to rave reviews--Atari massed produced this cart hoping to revive the 2600 but then the market crashed and the rest is history. The gamble had failed. But it was not because ET was in itself a bad game. It had more depth than almost any other Atari game. Those who lived through the 2600 era know that ET was pushing the limits of an adventure game on the 2600.
I agree with this 100%.

samejamesbond
11-29-2009, 09:10 PM
The game still isn't good, Pitfall! had better graphics and better gameplay.

I'm just curious:

Did you see the movie beforehand? If yes, rate it from 1-10 (1 worst, 10 best)
Did the movie have an influence on your childhood?
Hold old were you when you first played E.T.?
How difficult was the game to you when you first played it? 1-10
What was your honest first impression of the game?
What was your favorite and least favorite parts of the game? (aside from game over and ending)
What are your other favorite Atari 2600 games?
Was E.T. one of your first games?
What do you think of Superman 64?
Why do you think E.T. has a bad reputation?
Why would you return to this game?

Kugyince
11-29-2009, 09:31 PM
Did you see the movie beforehand? If yes, rate it from 1-10 (1 worst, 10 best)
Not sure, around the same time. I'd give it an 8 for it's time.

Did the movie have an influence on your childhood?
Not really.

Hold old were you when you first played E.T.?
Around 6.

How difficult was the game to you when you first played it? 1-10
Difficulty of a 4 (10 being the hardest).

What was your honest first impression of the game?
I really enjoyed it. It was so much more different from anything else I had played.

What was your favorite and least favorite parts of the game? (aside from game over and ending)
Least fav: FBI/Scientists Most fav: Calling Elliot

What are your other favorite Atari 2600 games?
Adventure

Was E.T. one of your first games?
Not even close. I owned most likely a hundred games before it.

What do you think of Superman 64?
Don't like it.

Why do you think E.T. has a bad reputation?
E-noobery.

Why would you return to this game?
It's fun.

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Also, to prove a point, I took 6 minutes out of my day before answering that and went out and beat it. You can see the ending scene on my score submission screenshot.

samejamesbond
11-29-2009, 09:33 PM
Thanks for your time, I wanted to know from your stand point.

Edit - Waisted my 600th post. Oh well.
Edit - Edit - Why do I have an infraction from ages ago?

Kugyince
11-29-2009, 09:43 PM
Some infractions don't expire. We mainly use them to remember if someone's given us a lot of trouble. One point is nothing to worry about though.

samejamesbond
11-30-2009, 01:47 PM
Why thank you Tenser for reversing it.

Kugyince
11-30-2009, 03:45 PM
Kong reversed it actually.

samejamesbond
11-30-2009, 03:47 PM
Then, thank you Kong for reversing my infraction.

And Tenser, thanks for correcting me.

Neutral
12-01-2009, 06:47 PM
Hey, would it be possible to add an third option. We(that would be me) on the other side of the puddle-which-can-not-be-traveled--easy are feeling sliiiightly left out in the cold.

I would like to, when it is possible to do so, lay an vote for "zäta".

Dudebro
12-01-2009, 08:53 PM
I already mentioned that but I was taught it's spelled Zeta.