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ARedLetterDay
06-15-2009, 10:31 PM
Aliens. We all know what they are--at least in science fiction--and what their goals usually are, complete eradication of the human race. But what if the aliens not in science fiction, what if they were out to save us from impending doom? Similar to how most people believe that aliens are here to share their technology with us, I believe that the aliens come here to save us from another alien race that we aren't aware of.

Crop circles? What if they were symbols designed to ward off other alien races, set there by aliens?

Abducting cows? What if they are abducting cows that have an alien life form inside of them, so that way we won't be infected as well when we eat the meat?

Think about these things.

Discuss.

mj23
06-15-2009, 10:35 PM
Aliens. We all know what they are--at least in science fiction--and what their goals usually are, complete eradication of the human race. But what if the aliens not in science fiction, what if they were out to save us from impending doom? Similar to how most people believe that aliens are here to share their technology with us, I believe that the aliens come here to save us from another alien race that we aren't aware of.

Crop circles? What if they were symbols designed to ward off other alien races, set there by aliens?

Abducting cows? What if they are abducting cows that have an alien life form inside of them, so that way we won't be infected as well when we eat the meat?

Think about these things.

Discuss.

you put entirely too much thought into this, huh?

ARedLetterDay
06-15-2009, 10:36 PM
Yes, actually. I enjoy reading up on paranormal and supernatural phenomena, aliens also highly interest me.

mj23
06-15-2009, 10:41 PM
thats cool, whatever makes your boat float

ARedLetterDay
06-15-2009, 10:53 PM
Indeed. You are not interested in such things? :cool:

Dojah
06-15-2009, 10:54 PM
Aliens....Hmm. Well Crop circles turned out to be people using a board and rope. I thought that was debunked a while ago. Cow mutilations etc...I dont think that is aliens. I also thought that was debunked a while ago.

IMO these type of aliens do not exist. I remember when they were known as little green human like figures...now they are know as "Grays" or gray human like figures. There are something like 1.6 million species on earth with something like 80% still not classified , so we are talking millions and millions. The chance that an inteligent life form from a different galaxy, looking so much like humans, using the same basic senses humans do is so improbable...I mean on earth alone not many species use our basic 5 senses. Especially when talking Darwinian, the chances are almost 0.

I dont know if people will even discuss this so I will stop here. :)

Winnebagel
06-15-2009, 10:56 PM
Interesting thoughts. I have read some similar things (and watched T.V. specials and what not) and am fascinated by a lot of things in history that could point to alien (or an advanced tech Earth culture) involvement. Things like the Dendara Light and certain Sarcophagi that show what seems to be rocket ships is very intriguing. :)

ARedLetterDay
06-15-2009, 10:58 PM
Dendara Light? Sarcophagi? I'm ashamed to say I've never heard of such things. Care to elaborate a bit?

Dudebro
06-15-2009, 10:59 PM
I think it's impossible to tell how an alien culture would act. We only have humanity to go by and it's how most people view this idea. If humanity is any judge we'll encounter hostile aliens trying to push thier agendas on us under the banner of friendship.

What WB is talking about is ancient drawings/artwork that show things that look like space ships. While it is interesting it could easily be just imagination and wishful thinking rather than evidence of ETs.

ARedLetterDay
06-15-2009, 11:04 PM
Ah! I see, cave drawings and hieroglyphics that show spaceships. I get it, such things could also be very early science fiction novels.

Winnebagel
06-15-2009, 11:07 PM
Dendara Light? Sarcophagi? I'm ashamed to say I've never heard of such things. Care to elaborate a bit?

These are just a couple of interesting things. They are by no means completely conclusive, but I think interesting nonetheless. I think it's fun to read & think about these kinds of things.

Dendera Light: Dendera light - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Mayan Aircraft Theories: ATLANTIUM: ATLANTIUM Episode XI (http://atlantium.blogspot.com/2007/01/atlantium-episode-xi.html)

Dojah
06-15-2009, 11:08 PM
The Dendera Light is something found in the Middle east, and artwork from the egyptians. This does bring up something to think about. But I dont think it's anything to do with alien technology. I dont think people give enough credit to ancient people, and human will for that matter.

yeah winn has a link. :)

Winnebagel
06-15-2009, 11:10 PM
The Dendera Light is something found in the Middle east, and artwork from the egyptians. This does bring up something to think about. But I dont think it's anything to do with alien technology. I dont think people give enough credit to ancient people, and human will for that matter.

yeah winn has a link. :)

Maybe not, but who knows? (Da da daaaaaaa!)

I just love history anyway, but there are some interesting things out there that I don't feel there has been a good explanation for yet. It doesn't necessarily mean that these are alien, but interesting to think about and study.

ARedLetterDay
06-15-2009, 11:13 PM
Like for instance how Egyptian slaves were able to build the massive pyramids, makes you wonder if they had help. ;)

Dojah
06-15-2009, 11:17 PM
I just love history anyway, but there are some interesting things out there that I don't feel there has been a good explanation for yet. It doesn't necessarily mean that these are alien, but interesting to think about and study.

Yeah I love this stuff. Always have. Done TONS of reading on this subject. Ever heard of William Cooper? He has some interesting things to look into. Personally I dont believe it but its something that will grab your attention for hours on end. He has some things on youtube.

ARedLetterDay
06-15-2009, 11:19 PM
William Cooper? Can't say that I have heard of him. I'll look him up. Anybody else interested in the paranormal?

Dojah
06-15-2009, 11:24 PM
Like for instance how Egyptian slaves were able to build the massive pyramids, makes you wonder if they had help. ;)
Yes very true, something to think about. But if they had help why would they have so many pyramids that are deformed or abandoned because it wasnt built right.. Also something to think about.

I seen something a while ago about this lady who discovered how to move/raise massive blocks, and obelisks with no modern technology. She used a pulley system and wind. She also showed hieroglyphics of this same principle. It's nothing concrete, and many speculate but its very interesting how easy it was for her to show her findings, without hundreds of people. I'll look for a link.:)

Winnebagel
06-15-2009, 11:27 PM
Yeah I love this stuff. Always have. Done TONS of reading on this subject. Ever heard of William Cooper? He has some interesting things to look into. Personally I dont believe it but its something that will grab your attention for hours on end. He has some things on youtube.

I have heard of him, but I don't think I have actually read any of his stuff. There's a lot of cool ideas out there, though. Things like the Chariot of The God's by Eric Van Daniken and interesting theories about the moon landing are always fun to ponder. :)

ARedLetterDay
06-15-2009, 11:28 PM
Ah! Of course, but what if they were abandoned because they angered the aliens or the aliens did not do a good job? Also stuff to think about! :)

Oh! I heard of that a while back, never really thought more about it though. Ahah.

Winnebagel
06-15-2009, 11:30 PM
I think that there was an alien race called the Goa'uld that enslaved humanity for a time. I think that they forced humans to build the pyramids and used them as landing platforms for their ships which were also shaped like pyramids. ;)

ARedLetterDay
06-15-2009, 11:32 PM
Why does that sound so familiar? >.>

Dojah
06-15-2009, 11:35 PM
I think that there was an alien race called the Goa'uld that enslaved humanity for a time. I think that they forced humans to build the pyramids and used them as landing platforms for their ships which were also shaped like pyramids. ;)
LOL, I liked that one. I wonder if others will catch that.

Dudebro
06-15-2009, 11:36 PM
Damn WB beat me to the Stargate joke.

Winnebagel
06-15-2009, 11:38 PM
Sorry guys. I couldn't resist. I love me some Stargate SG-1, and it kind of seemed to fit with the theme somehow. I think some of the reason I like Stargate so much is because it kind of explores these same themes and ideas. Very fascinating stuff this.

ARedLetterDay
06-15-2009, 11:40 PM
So THAT'S why it sounded familiar. I love Stargate, SG-1 anyways. I just can't get into Atlantis. I am looking forward to the upcoming movie though. :cool:

Dojah
06-15-2009, 11:42 PM
Ah! Of course, but what if they were abandoned because they angered the aliens or the aliens did not do a good job? Also stuff to think about! :)
EHHH, why would aliens come to help us with something humans allready had technology for? And in order for ET to reach us they would need light travel...so if they had the technology to get here, wouldnt a simple rock structure be child's play?

Winnebagel
06-15-2009, 11:43 PM
So THAT'S why it sounded familiar. I love Stargate, SG-1 anyways. I just can't get into Atlantis. I am looking forward to the upcoming movie though. :cool:

Yeah, I'm kind of the same way. I like Atlantis, but it sort of got away from the mythology and history and did its own thing. It's still decent for a show in its genre, but I think it rarely reaches the level of SG-1. There were some good crossover episodes, though. Yeah, I think the are going to do another SG-1 movie pretty soon. Did you see the first two SG-1 movies?

ARedLetterDay
06-15-2009, 11:44 PM
Underlying reasons, perhaps they helped us to further their own needs?

Dojah
06-15-2009, 11:45 PM
Star Gate...classic. :) great viewings for sure.

ARedLetterDay
06-15-2009, 11:52 PM
Did you see the first two SG-1 movies?

I saw the premiere one, yes. I wasn't aware there was another, or perhaps I blocked it out from memory because it was horrible? :p

Winnebagel
06-15-2009, 11:55 PM
EHHH, why would aliens come to help us with something humans allready had technology for? And in order for ET to reach us they would need light travel...so if they had the technology to get here, wouldnt a simple rock structure be child's play?

I think they just liked to punish humans because they were naughty little beasties.

Stargate is indeed a classic. Good stuff that. Lot's of fun and taps into history and mythology too.

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I saw the premiere one, yes. I wasn't aware there was another, or perhaps I blocked it out from memory because it was horrible? :p

No the two SG-1 movies were follow ups to the T.V. series. The series went for 10 years, then they did two movies. They are supposed to do a third one soon. Also, there was a spin off T.V. show that went 5 more years and a new third T.V. show is starting this year.

ARedLetterDay
06-15-2009, 11:57 PM
Oh! SG-1 movies, I thought you meant Stargate movies in general, which is why I thought of the movie that started the series!

Winnebagel
06-15-2009, 11:59 PM
Oh! SG-1 movies, I thought you meant Stargate movies in general, which is why I thought of the movie that started the series!

Oh. I see what you mean now. Yes, the original Stargate started the franchise. Then SG-1 was a sequel to the movie. Then Atlantis was a spin off of Atlantis. Then the SG-1 movies were a sequel to the SG-1 show. Then the new series Stargate Universe is kind of a continuation of the franchise (I hope).

ARedLetterDay
06-16-2009, 12:00 AM
I hope it's as good as SG-1 though, that series was one of the defining TV shows of my childhood.

Winnebagel
06-16-2009, 12:05 AM
I hope it's as good as SG-1 though, that series was one of the defining TV shows of my childhood.

It's one of my all time favorites too. In fact if I may quote everyone's favorite Jaffa, Teal'c, I will say, "Indeed!" ;)

ARedLetterDay
06-16-2009, 12:07 AM
:p When I was little, I thought Slogra's staff (One of the Demon Duo in Super Castlevania IV) was a 'Stargate Staff'. Oh my childhood!

Winnebagel
06-16-2009, 12:08 AM
:p When I was little, I thought Slogra's staff (One of the Demon Duo in Super Castlevania IV) was a 'Stargate Staff'. Oh my childhood!

Who knows, maybe it was? :p I sent you a request to join you group. Interesting discussions abound!

ARedLetterDay
06-16-2009, 12:10 AM
You are now apart of the group! If you'd like, go ahead and start a discussion, get other members to join or just send in some ideas in a PM! As for now, I'm going to bed. Goodnight WB and RU!

Dojah
06-16-2009, 12:12 AM
:)

Dudebro
06-16-2009, 02:29 AM
They're making that new show stargate universe but I'm not holding my breath, I'll watch it either way though. It has Lou Diamond Philipps so I'm wary.

About the topic, why do the aliens always need a motive? Maybe one day they'll just stumble upon us and we'll all be friends.

Winnebagel
06-16-2009, 01:19 PM
They're making that new show stargate universe but I'm not holding my breath, I'll watch it either way though. It has Lou Diamond Philipps so I'm wary.

About the topic, why do the aliens always need a motive? Maybe one day they'll just stumble upon us and we'll all be friends.

Yeah. I hope it's good, but some of the things I have heard make me a bit hesitant to watch it.

Along those lines, I have a new question for everyone:

If aliens did land, what do you think the reaction would be from most of the people of Earth? Would they react with fear and attack the aliens? Would they embrace them with open arms? Would the religious people feel threatened or try to somehow fit the existence of aliens into their beliefs? Would the Government try to suppress the aliens and try to convince the people of Earth that it was a hoax? has something like this already happened?

Dojah
06-16-2009, 03:43 PM
If aliens did land, what do you think the reaction would be from most of the people of Earth? Would they react with fear and attack the aliens? Would they embrace them with open arms? Would the religious people feel threatened or try to somehow fit the existence of aliens into their beliefs? Would the Government try to suppress the aliens and try to convince the people of Earth that it was a hoax? has something like this already happened?

Well IMO if aliens landed humans would have ZERO chance to defeat or supress them. The reason I say that is they would have the technology to simply blow up our planet with ease. Once one can travel the speed of light the possibilities are endless....even time travel....so theoretically they can fight, and if they lose they start over with endless continues basically. Or theoretically they can create a singularity within our galaxy etc...I feel humans wold embrace with open arms for the most part, I think the religious state would fall to the ground. If it happened before I would have to say the evidence is all washed up or is very well hidden, or maybe just maybe they were here before most species on earth became extinct.

But also even if one was to go the speed of light, time travel would be neccisary to reach Earth from lets say Andromeda. The reason I say that is it would take 2.5 million years to travel between the two IF traveling at speed of light. The technology would have to be amazing. Theoretically its possible, but there are tons of paradox's. Man it would be great tho.

Winnebagel
06-16-2009, 07:02 PM
I think it would be cool too. I think many many people would panic at first but that most would come around to the idea.

DoctorRyanB1
06-17-2009, 09:13 AM
I would love for aliens to visit us. That way I would ask them there secret to building a real time machine. That way I can replace my old 87 Chevy engine I have in my TARDIS.

Neutral
06-17-2009, 11:22 AM
Apropos of STARGÅTE: Did you know that that lambda with an ring perched ontop is almost an "å/Å" which is an Swedish letter? ;)

So STARGÅTE is supposed be pronounce something akin to how an Englishman would pronounce "star goat".

Also, the word "gåte/gåta/gåde" in Norwegian/Swedish/Danish languages means "riddle".

ARedLetterDay
06-18-2009, 12:20 AM
I did not know that Neutral..that's interesting.

Neutral
06-18-2009, 05:31 AM
I did not know that Neutral..that's interesting.
Yeah, ain't it? I almost laughted my butt off when I saw it the first time around. You silly americans!

Oh, and yes: Using "heavy metal umlauts" changes the pronunciation of the word. But Häagen-Daz isn't anywhere near an "authentic" Scandinavian word, by the way.

Mötley Crue.;)

RU Joe
06-23-2009, 01:24 PM
Nassim Haramein (creator of the NEW unified theory) had some interesting things to say regarding a crop circle written in ASCII which is a message from a SILICON-based life form.
Credo Mutwa (African Shaman) says the African people are no strangers to what Westerners call 'aliens', and revealed a lot of things which made A LOT more sense to me than what the TV specials with spooky music and unanswered questions have to say about it.
For one thing, the 'Greys' are not grey at all, but pink.
It seems that Africans have seen these creatures many times without their clothes on, so to speak, as the children call them 'pinky pinky'.
The outer skin is actually a tight-fitting suit, and the large black eyes are in-built goggles which are part of that suit.
He says he knows since he has not only been present at the dissection (which must be done underground lest they find out and send the 'creatures of the terrible black cloth', A.K.A. the men in black- no joke) of one of these, but has also eaten their flesh, which gave him super-senses for a short time.
Also, once, he was abducted by aliens, and while aboard their 'ship', this is what he said happened.:
He was on top of a metal table, such as in an operating room, and there held immobile by an invisible force.
To his left stood a standard 'Grey' alien, and at his head stood what he described as a taller version of that creature with elongated fingers (extra joints) and a thumb in the middle of its wrist instead of to the side like ours.
I cannot relate the entire account due to our mixed audience here, but suffice it to say the small creature was taking samples of tissue from him and the larger one seemed to be supervising this procedure.
When this was done, he was given back control of his body and led around the ship for a tour, or so it would seem, and this is the most remarkable thing of all:
While being led around on this 'tour' of the ship, he was taken to where other people were undergoing the same procedure of tissue sampling, and this is where the story becomes amazing-
A man he described as a caucasian with a beard and moustache lay on the table, immobile and in agony as Credo had recently been, LOOKED DIRECTLY INTO CREDO'S EYES with an expression of crying out for help, but there was nothing Credo could do, as he was taken on past to see other things in the ship.
LATER ON after being returned to Earth, and some time after this incident, that same man spotted Credo whilst out walking one day, and fairly CHARGED over to him, yelling:
WHERE DO I KNOW YOU FROM? YOU HAD BETTER TELL ME!
Credo looked him in the eye as he began: "You were on a metal table...."
and the man nearly fell over, as if Credo had struck him with a fist, and with a terrible curse ran away.....

I encourage anyone interested to check out this vid on the net, just put in Credo Mutwa, and you should come up with this, although it is quite lengthy, grab a coffee and enjoy!
BTW, I do not think we should be afraid of them, since the NWO is a far more real and imminent threat than they are !
I cannot prove it to you, but I have observed 'more than meets the eye' myself in this life, and encourage you all to keep an open mind.

Dudebro
06-23-2009, 02:59 PM
The story you just related sounds exactly like

TV specials with spooky music and unanswered questions

Actually the gray skin tight suit thing is exactly the same story from the movie "A fire in the sky", supposedly based on real events.

Btw you should break up the wall of text. It's difficult to read like that.

RU Joe
06-23-2009, 06:36 PM
I never got to see 'Fire in the Sky', (sounds mildly amusing) but the account I describe above is taken from a very dry video of Credo Mutwa talking in front of a camera, without even music or graphics, definitely not any big-budget production.

As I say, this gentleman is a Shaman in Africa, (around 70 years old), and the video was made in the late 80's or early 90's so the likelihood of him re-iterating a hollywood movie seems remote at best.
See it for yourself.

Dudebro,
Thanks for the heads up on the wall of text, (hey you're right !) too many years in school gets one used to seeing almost everything that way (to save paper) but here we have a choice to space it out.

I leave you by offering this:
If we are not interested in finding real answers, but are just having fun, then I ask to be excused.

Of course I know there is no definitive proof except maybe in AREA 51, but why would they tell us any truth if they can keep the NEAT TOYS to themselves.
It sure is fun thinking about it though.

Fire in the Sky.... sounds like Jim Morrison should sing it. heh heh heh.

Winnebagel
06-23-2009, 06:43 PM
@ Joe, I think there is a light tone here, but some of us (myself included) are very interested in this topic.

I love hearing about a lot of different things and unexplained phenomenon. Without a doubt, I believe there is more out there than what we see on the surface, or at least more things out there then have been seen by the general public.

I think there are some scammers out there, but I also think that many people have had real experiences with the unexplained (again I include myself in this as I have experienced some interesting things in my time), and I am curious about this. I don't think I have all the answers, but I am interested in thinking about these kinds of things.

A lot of it may be all in fun, but I think these are interesting things to discuss.

Dudebro
06-23-2009, 11:04 PM
I never got to see 'Fire in the Sky', (sounds mildly amusing) but the account I describe above is taken from a very dry video of Credo Mutwa talking in front of a camera, without even music or graphics, definitely not any big-budget production.

As I say, this gentleman is a Shaman in Africa, (around 70 years old), and the video was made in the late 80's or early 90's so the likelihood of him re-iterating a hollywood movie seems remote at best.
See it for yourself.

I wasn't trying to say that your guy copied this movie, I was pointing out how most abduction cases share similarities. Either they're all just copying each other (willingly or subconsciously) or there is something going on.

But, I will say that I don't believe ANY eye witness accounts unless it can be backed up with proof like a video or a body, ect. As sincere as someone may be there is a very good chance they're making it up for any number of reasons.

You should see Fire in the Sky btw. I really liked it and it was based on eye witness accounts(I think it was 5 guys, 1 was taken). It's not intended as fiction, it's supposed to tell the story of the people involved. Of course some details were changed when it was made into a film but they did write a book about it in 1978(making this before the guy in Africa).

Fire in the Sky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Travis Walton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (not a link to the book but it talks about the "real" events that the movie left out or changed).


I leave you by offering this:
If we are not interested in finding real answers, but are just having fun, then I ask to be excused.

You can be excused anytime you want since there is no obligation to post but I'm always willing to discuss things seriously. We here at RU like to joke around, even in serious topics. Don't be discouraged by the light hearted tone it's normal.


Thanks for the heads up on the wall of text, (hey you're right !) too many years in school gets one used to seeing almost everything that way (to save paper) but here we have a choice to space it out.
I had no trouble reading your post. I only wrote that to help you get heard since most people who read forums skip over long, clustered posts. It can be intimidating.

RU Joe
06-25-2009, 02:04 PM
Groovy.
Yes, old Joe Grotowski WANTS TO BELIEVE !
(in case it is not already obvious)

The Church failed to provide answers which I, personally, find acceptable.
Science has done no better, no matter how complex the equations.
In fact, the ancient civilizations were known to have no separation between the two...

Now I only believe in VIDEO GAMES, and ALIENS.
(They are listening through my implant so I have to acknowledge them),
They frequently visit R.U. themselves, particularly the larger ones with the elongated fingers - who rack up the highest scores - didn't you know?

P.S. R.U. is the best, since nowhere else is there positive feedback like this.

Winnebagel
06-25-2009, 11:24 PM
Groovy.
Yes, old Joe Grotowski WANTS TO BELIEVE !
(in case it is not already obvious)

The Church failed to provide answers which I, personally, find acceptable.
Science has done no better, no matter how complex the equations.
In fact, the ancient civilizations were known to have no separation between the two...

Now I only believe in VIDEO GAMES, and ALIENS.
(They are listening through my implant so I have to acknowledge them),
They frequently visit R.U. themselves, particularly the larger ones with the elongated fingers - who rack up the highest scores - didn't you know?

P.S. R.U. is the best, since nowhere else is there positive feedback like this.

Joe, please don't make R.U. a difficult place for me to fit in. No one suspected anything until you said that. My picture of myself in my Avatar looks like everyone else. Don't out me bro. I don't want to be forced to come out of the U.F.O. closet. ;)

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@ Joe, by the way, I agree, R.U. is the greatest place. There are actually people who are willing to joke around or talk about real issues. There's a good bunch here.

I want to believe too. :)

Dudebro
06-26-2009, 04:00 AM
There are actually people who are willing to joke around or and talk about real issues.
;)

Winnebagel
06-26-2009, 01:49 PM
;)

True. I guess there are some of us that fall in both categories. :)

laserboy1134
07-01-2009, 12:31 PM
If aliens came, it would be for scientific discovery on their planet, not to kill or destroy. However, if we became hostile toward them and started to fight, intergalactic war would be waged.

Dudebro
07-02-2009, 03:29 AM
We have no way of knowing what intentions an alien race would have. Maybe they'd be coming here because thier planet doesn't have ICP?

OldTimer
07-02-2009, 04:36 AM
When they do come we can trick them with this:

http://gamingmuseum.classicgaming.gamespy.com/ChannelF.gif

Fairchild Channel F - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That should keep them busy almost indefinately, while we figure out how to destroy them and take their technology.

Kong
07-02-2009, 09:46 AM
Assumptions:
Aliens exist
Aliens exist in our time
Aliens can come here
Aliens do come here
Aliens have basic human motives - kill, befriend, mock, teach, steal, give, fear, love

Those are all pretty big leaps. For aliens to live in a time period that overlaps ours would either be the hugest coincidence ever, designed intervention or mean that aliens are just running all over the place like cockroaches.

And to assume that aliens have figured out how to travel faster than light but have not come up with a reason for doing so that isn't in a bad sci-fi movie from the 50s is silly.

Plus, well, they are alien. That means everything about them will be alien to us. Including their thoughts and motives. They would not look anything like a human wearing a rubber mask. They will not walk on two legs. If they did look anything like a human or like typical alien in Star Trek then I would seriously start doubting evolution and start leaning towards intelligent design.

Dudebro
07-02-2009, 04:59 PM
I disagree Kong. Aliens don't have to be different. Maybe our body design is the ideal(walking upright on two legs). I don't think it disproves anything if they look like us in some ways.
Now if they all happen to be wearing crosses and praising jesus the yeah, I'd doubt evolution too.

Neutral
07-02-2009, 06:33 PM
Alien's out to assimilate us.:rolleyes:

OldTimer
07-03-2009, 12:45 PM
I agree DudeBro. I doubt we would see an alien with dinosaur-ic proportions or even an underwater being with higher intelligience. A 'bi-pod' is the most evolutionary sound idea. Maybe star trek had it right where all aliens have human proportions.

Dojah
07-03-2009, 06:43 PM
I agree DudeBro. I doubt we would see an alien with dinosaur-ic proportions or even an underwater being with higher intelligience. A 'bi-pod' is the most evolutionary sound idea. Maybe star trek had it right where all aliens have human proportions.

You are right, if there were aliens they don't have to look different. But I thought evolution taught there is no ideal species, or ideal structure to a species. In evolution there is no sound idea's...and evolution is not supposed to stop at a certain species. In all honesty humans are very far from ideal when it comes to evolution. Every one of our major sences is very sub-par when comparing to the rest of the animal kingdom.

About seeing another species with more intelligence than humans...thats very hard to put a finger on. Some scientists say dolphins are smarter than humans. We couldnt use the regular old human method of problem solving/language to solve this. Insects are more intelligent when it comes to nesting, many species are more intelligent when it comes to migration, etc...

laserboy1134
07-03-2009, 09:26 PM
As I said before, most aliens would not be out to kill or destroy. Instead, they would want to either inhabbit, make scientific discovery, or offer some form of diplomacy. However, there is little likeliness that aliens even exist.

Dudebro
07-03-2009, 10:07 PM
The bottomline is we have no way of knowing about any part of it.

Kong
07-04-2009, 12:30 AM
As I said before, most aliens would not be out to kill or destroy. Instead, they would want to either inhabbit, make scientific discovery, or offer some form of diplomacy.
In human history when we set out to explore a new place it has typically been to rape and pillage. Completely out of personal interests.

However, there is little likeliness that aliens even exist.I think with the sheer amount of time and space that it is very likely that aliens exist, existed or will exist. But also because of the vastness of time and space it is very unlikely that humans will ever meet them.

Mikman
07-08-2009, 12:25 PM
I think that any civilization whose has unified its own stellar system and who has acquired interstellar travel capability would be morally evolved enough to not to attack other systems.

Do you think that aliens beleive in God? I do.

Dudebro
07-08-2009, 10:30 PM
You may wanna believe all that mikman but there is no way of knowing unless we make contact and learn about them. We can not just assume they will follow the example of humanity. They might, but again, we have no way of knowing until we meet them.

OldTimer
07-09-2009, 02:27 PM
I think that any civilization whose has unified its own stellar system and who has acquired interstellar travel capability would be morally evolved enough to not to attack other systems.

Do you think that aliens beleive in God? I do.

They might even be god or know how to make one...

laserboy1134
07-11-2009, 03:05 PM
I think that Aliens will not follow the "We just want to destroy your planet!" model that people believe in. However, they may want to use us as slaves and conquer our planet. So they may just be out to enslave.

asher
08-04-2009, 01:15 PM
Aliens are both bad and good, so some might want to KILL us others may want to HELP us.
Let's just hope it's the ones that want to help us that come first.

Dudebro
08-04-2009, 02:02 PM
You say that like you're sure of it. Have you met any aliens? If so send them over to my house I'd love to talk to them.

justinm26
08-04-2009, 04:14 PM
I didn't read all the posts yet but I will, I just wanted to get my 2 cents in on this topic. I believe that there are aliens, I mean there has to be. People would be naive to believe this is the only planet in the entire universe with life. But as far as out to kill or out to save, until they really come and visit there is no way to know for sure.

Dudebro
08-04-2009, 04:18 PM
Well like Kong pointed out it's possible aliens exsist but it's also very likely that they are already long gone or they aren't even around yet. There's no way to guess where they are along the timeline, they might be primordial ooze still or they might've blown themselves up and left no trace.

asher
08-06-2009, 12:34 PM
I agree with Justinm26 we are naive to think that.
By the way I have not yet met any aliens, its just that those are only two of the three options of how aliens would behave. (the other being neutral towords us and don;t care what happens to us.)

Mikman
08-06-2009, 01:12 PM
We should wait until we are totally unified in our stellar system until we go travelling to other systems.

Besides, why would aliens want to harm us? What do we have?

Perhaps, in a century or two, we'll have trading agreements with these foreign powers.