Hearthstone

[Kugyince]

I've been playing a crap ton of Hearthstone lately. It's a F2P online card battle game by Blizzard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQvtgCfvnN4

My nick is Kugyince and I'm rocking a pretty solid growth deck. Add me as a friend and lets do some battles! >:D

[CrispyChicken]

I've played a couple of times, but I like the game. My name is Chrisp722. You'll probably kick my ass though :p

[psimaster]

Does it require a high-power comp?

[CrispyChicken]

I don't think so. It's just a card game.

[Kugyince]

Not at all.

[Kong]

I'll give it a try next week. Looks like a Magic the Gathering rip off.

[Razeluxe]

I'll give it a try next week. Looks like a Magic the Gathering rip off.
Kind of. Just a lot more shallow.

[Kugyince]

Isn't nearly ever TCG a Magic rip off?

Unlike Magic, it doesn't require a $300+ investment to play well, doesn't require an encyclopedic knowledge of "stacks" and chains, and hasn't gone through 50 versions of errata.

[psimaster]

All right, I'll give it a shot. Hopefully this runs fine.

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Just started playing, it's been great.

[Dudebro]

I'm on the fence, if more people get into it I'll try it out.

[Kugyince]

I think you have to add my battle tag as: Kugyince #1567

[CrispyChicken]

Haven't gotten a chance to even open up the game since you posted. I'll try next week when I have time lol.

[psimaster]

Alright, it's sent.

[ebinsugewa]

Pretty boring game, you don't earn currency fast enough and it's not particularly strategic when compared to Magic or MMDOC or even Solforge.

[Wolf]

playing it now wolfman24 if that don't work vgwolfman@yahoo.com is my email i used

[Kugyince]

My two rank decks thus far:

Bloody Rage
Inner Rage x1
Execute x2
Whirlwind x2
Battle Rage x2
Cleave x2
Commanding Shout x2
Slam x2
Amani Berserker x2
Armorsmith x1
Cruel Taskmaster x2
Flesheating Ghoul x2
Frothing Berserker x2
Tauren Warrior x2
Warsong Commander x2
Cult Master x2
Gurubashi Berserker x2

Deck feeds off of taking damage and death.

Whirlwind, Cruel Taskmaster, Inner Rage, and Slam are used to help activate rage.

Battle Rage, Cult Master, Slam, and Commanding Shout serve as card draw.

Execute, Cleave, Commanding Shout, and Slam can be used as hard removal.

I would like to swap the Armorsmith for Grammash Hellscream when I get him. I'd also like to switch the two Tauren Warriors for two Rampage and one of the Commanding Shouts for a second Inner Rage.

Big Taunt Ramp
Innervate x2
Naturalize x1
Mark of the Wild x2
Wild Growth x2
Wrath x2
Acidic Swamp Ooze x1
Amani Berserker x1
Mark of Nature x2
Big Game Hunter x1
Swipe x2
Chillwind Yeti x2
Keeper of the Grove x1
Druid of the Claw x2
Starfire x2
Boulderfist Ogre x2
Ancient of War x1
Ironbark Protector x2
Alexstraza x1
Deathwing x1

Object is to ramp up the mana curve quickly and be able to play one big creature after another.

Innervate and Wild Growth do the ramping.

Wrath and Starfire are your only minor sources of card draw. You honestly shouldn't need much as you're playing passive control.

Naturalize, Wrath, Big Game Hunter, Swipe, Starfire, and Deathwing serve as hard removal.

Mark of the Wild and Mark of Nature are in there to turn your early drops into large taunts. (Example: You coin/Amani turn one and turn 2 add the Mark of the Wild. That's a 4/5 with taunt and +3 enrage on turn 2. Normally a plain 4/5 like Yeti can't come out until turn 4 let alone with all the extra buffs.)

Thing I would like to change:
I'd like to trade the Naturalize for The Black Knight as it's simply better removal in every way. I'd like to swap out the two Boulderfist Ogres for two Ancients of Lore to add in the option for more card draw of health. I'd also like to swap out the Alexstraza and Deathwing for Ysera and Ragnoras.

[Dudebro]

It's funny I came here to post about getting help with this game. I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with the warrior deck, because I don't play warrior much, but the druid one is similar to what I use minus the legendaries. I could fill the two spots with an ancient of lore and something else good and probably do alright in ranked?

I mainly came here to ask about arena though. I can't get more than 3 wins and I usually barely manage to get 1 or 2. I try different classes and different builds but I always seem to get stopped early. Any advice is appreciated. I could go look at guides but they all seem to go for 1 or 2 very specific builds and that bores me. I'm looking for general tips.

The other night I actually had some good matches. One match the guy beat me down to 1 hit point and I managed to come back largely because of
http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_07/4216.png
and he quit rather than let me blast him, gotta love rage quits. The other good one I don't even remember because I was on the phone and I only really noticed what was going on when the other guy was almost dead and I won soon after. I did better than normal because I wasn't paying attention :(

[Kugyince]

For constructed it's VERY important to pay attention to your hand. What cards are working for you and what ones aren't? Do you need more card draw or hard removal? How's your deck running in the earl (1-3) mid (4-6) and late (7+) turns of the game?

Once you get past rank 15 it becomes very important to also pay attention to the meta game. This means paying attention to what decks out there you're weak against and what decks are currently popular and tweaking your to accommodate that.

An example from my Ramp deck: The Naturalize and Big Game Hunter are in there specifically because Handlock Giant decks are both popular and I have a difficult time with them. The Acidic Swamp Ooze is there for Miracle Rogue and Control Warrior decks. Token Shaman use to be popular so I use to run a Starfall for a little more AoE. Now that it isn't, I don't.

Arena favors solid creatures over spells and combos. You have to also pay attention to your mana curve. I've mostly learned what cards are good for what by watching the top-tier players' youtube videos. There's also this though I've never used it: Arena Card Rankings/Spreadsheets - Icy Veins (http://www.icy-veins.com/hearthstone/arena-card-rankings-spreadsheets)

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Also tonight I just got enough dust to craft my first legendary.

http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_07/4217.png

Not gold though, of course.

[Dudebro]

I think one of my main problems is I try to make a strong presence on the board early and I end up with an empty hand. I've been trying to save up the first few rounds to unload a few cards at once but the results have been mixed.

I usually try to balance my deck with a good amount of low cost cards, 1-4, and a few good strong cards. I've stopped relying so much on taunt except for priest and paladin because I like how it works with them.

I'll probably just skip ranked unless I start doing better in constructed. It's already aggravating enough without the added shame of not ranking up.

I've been saving up for Ysera too. Not for anything specific just because it's a cool card.

[Kugyince]

Good rule of thumb is that you should only be playing as many cards as you draw that turn.

Now that I have Ysera not only does it upgrade my Big Taunt Ramp deck but my Basic Control deck is 90% fleshed out.

Basic Control
Arcane Missles x2
Mana Wyrm x2
Frostbolt x2
Amani Berserker x2
Bloodmage Thalnos x1
Arcane Intellect x1
Acolyte of Pain x1
Big Game Hunter x1
Harvest Golem x2
Fireball x2
Polymorph x2
Chillwind Yeti x2
Water Elemental x2
Azure Drake x1
Gadgetzan Auctioneer x2
Venture Co. Mercenary x1
Sunwalker x2
Flamestrike x1
Ysera x1

LOTS of card draw in the deck with Bloodmage Thalnos, Arcane Intellect, Acolyte of Pain, Azure Drake, and Gadgetzan Auctioneer.

Deck runs on controller the board using very solid creatures.

The only thing I want to replace is the Venture Co. for a Ragnoras.

[Kugyince]

Heroic complete. Took about 6 or 7 tries for the final boss. Was ridiculous. http://www.retrouprising.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3484&stc=1&d=1406082521

[Dudebro]

I gave up on the boss after a couple tries because it was taking so long with the lag. I've been reading that pretty everyone is blowing through it already. Hope they tweak the rest accordingly.

[Kugyince]

There's no need to tweak heroic, trust me. That last boss is 50x harder than it was on Normal.

[Kugyince]

Rank 10 and moving up! :D

http://www.retrouprising.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3512&stc=1&d=1406239718

[Dudebro]

Rank 10 is Ogre Magi? That seems like a weak choice.

[Kugyince]

Pulled an Old Murk-Eye today as a reward for collecting one of every Murloc card.

http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_08/4289.jpg

[Kugyince]

Glad to be finished with the Naxx adventures. They were very well made and enjoyable but 6 corridors were a bit too much at one time.

Also pulled a Gruul today.

http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_09/4472.png

[bearhawk72]

Started dabbling in Hearthstone. I got the mage to level 10 and got all her cards, played a couple casual games online and got destroyed.

[Kugyince]

Its a fun game. Just find what works and change what doesn't. Basic decks can take you a long way if you play well.

1. Always check for lethal.
2. Always trade up if you can.
3. Never trade down if you have more health.
4. Maintain board control.

[Dudebro]

Also do the single player practice stuff on normal and expert for extra gold to get packs, and to learn of course.

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I'm taking a break. I suck really bad still. I log on for a few matches and I'm lucky if I win one. It's pretty demoralizing. Not sure what else I can do besides copy decks from online guides.

[Kugyince]

http://www.retrouprising.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3624&stc=1&d=1411606971

[DrunkN]

RIP Rick

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"cheffdonty" add me

[Kugyince]

Need the number that comes after your nick as well.

[DrunkN]

Ah, that's why I couldn't find you guys.

#1225

[psimaster]

I am now back into hearthboned, also I added you DN.

[Dudebro]

I'll duel you guys just let me know on steam.

[Kugyince]

@DN: You should be using your coins to play in the arena instead of buying packs. The arena will allow you to play on even ground with everyone else, will let you try out cards that you don't own, will teach you what cards are good and bad and what a mana curve should look like. You also still earn packs of cards from arena runs so you can still build up your library. So do your daily quests and go play in the arena every time you earn 150 coins.

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:D

http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_09/4554.png

[DrunkN]

Been playing in the Arena. It's been pretty education as far as what to build, actually! Thank you Tenser.

Also, nice get.

[Dudebro]

I've played a few times recently but my kid forces me to play hunter so he can see the "annamalls". I'm sooooo sick of hunter.

[Kugyince]

Hunter's got nerfed really hard in the last patch with Starving Buzzard.

The Miracle Rogue and Handlock Warlock decks got nerfed slightly with Leeroy Jenkins going from 4 mana to 5 mana. They're both still competitive in different variations though.

With the nerf and Naxx update two new decks are becoming popular, Deathrattle Priest and Secrets Mage.

The four decks I've been fairing well with are a Control Mage, Ramp Druid, Zoolock, and Deathlock.

@DB: There's nothing wrong with using someone else's deck build. It teaches you how to build competitive deck and then you can tweak it to your preference and the current meta game making it your own. My Control, Ramp, and Zoo are all like that, while my Deathlock is all my own though certainly other people have thought of variations of it as well.

[Dudebro]

I already tweaked my hunter but I kept one SB because it's still pretty powerful if the situation is right. I'm not losing every match, that's a plus.

[Kugyince]

Time to learn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWpMIP6s41g&list=UUsQnAt5I56M-qx4OgCoVmeA

[psimaster]

I was only 9 years old.
I loved hunter so much, I even got a golden unleash the hounds.
"Hunter is love" I say, "Hunter is life."
Tenser hears me and says he will wreck me.
I say "fite me 1v1 scrub"
So then he proceeded to wreck me with his zoo deck.
My dream is over, Tenser.
It's all over.

[Kugyince]

Aggro Hunter Vs. Zoolock is a bad match up for you.

You also need to take the junk out of your deck and streamline it.

[Dudebro]

Just play Priest it's better.

[Kugyince]

Death priest has a decent win ratio versus zoolock, miracle rogue, and secrets mage. You'll be outclassed by handlock, control shaman, and control warrior though. Obviously there's no "best" deck and you'll face both favorable and unfavorable match-ups. It's more about the slight adjustments made to the deck to compensate for decks that it's weak against and that are currently popular.

[Dudebro]

I just mean it's a good one to get used to since it has all those buffs and heals.

[psimaster]

So I should just get the priest spells I need and not all of them...?

[Kugyince]

Sure, here's the basic build, adjust as needed:

Deathrattle Priest - Hearthstone Players (http://hearthstoneplayers.com/decks/deathrattle-priest/)

[Dudebro]

Are you crafting them? I'd hold off on that for bigger and better cards. I got a lot of decent cards just from packs.

[Kugyince]

I usually don't hold off to craft a legendary. Just craft what I need when I need it.

[Dudebro]

But you agree he shouldn't craft lower level stuff? Crafting isn't very fruitful so it's easy to waste your dust.

[Kugyince]

But you agree he shouldn't craft lower level stuff? Crafting isn't very fruitful so it's easy to waste your dust.

I disagree but I will admit it's just personal preference on what to craft.

I crafted commons and rares all the time until I had full sets of each. The way I saw it is that I'd rather play a very solid all around deck than an okay-ish deck with a legendary card in it. Again, personal preference.

[Dudebro]

I don't mean legendaries I mean epics and rare, as opposed to common.

[Kugyince]

I do recommend that most players start with a zoolock deck. It is a very cheap aggro/control deck that even legendary players play.

Here is the version I run:
Soulfire x2
Power Overwhelming x2
Flame Imp x2
Leper Gnome x2
Undertaker x2
Haunted Creeper x2
Ironbeak Owl x1
Knife Juggler x2
Nerubian Egg x2
Harvest Golem x2
Shattered Sun Cleric x2
Void Terror x2
Hellfire x1
Dark Iron Dwarf x2
Defender of Argus x2
Doomguard x2

You'll notice their are no epics or legendaries in the deck. The variant I run is designed for early board control and strives to win by turn 7.

[Dudebro]

Ironbeak Owl is one of my favorite cards, is that weird?

[Kugyince]

Yes.

[Dudebro]

It's a nice cheap silence, pretty boss.

[Kugyince]

I only use it because the damn Sludge Belchers are so prevalent. Most decks outside of Handlock don't run it. There are almost always better options.

[Dudebro]

It's the cheapest all class silence card, right? For the price of one spellbreaker you can have two owls. That being said I usually use one of each. I also like to use a brewmaster or two so having a cheaper silence comes in handy.

[Kugyince]

New record for me and the season is only half-way through! :nailbiting:

[psimaster]

I can't believe I forgot about crafting. Dammit.

[Kugyince]

I can't believe I forgot about crafting. Dammit.

I fixed your Hunter deck for you:

Hunter's Mark x1
Flare x2
Tracking x1
Leper Gnome x2
Undertaker x2
Webspinner x2
Explosive Trap x1
Freezing Trap x1
Snake Trap x1
Haunted Creeper x2
Ironbeak Owl x1
Loot Hoarder x2
Mad Scientist x2
Eaglehorn Bow x2
Animal Companion x2
Kill Command x2
Houndmaster x1
Loatheb x1
Savannah Highmane x2

[Dudebro]

Why two flare? That seems oddly specific.

[Kugyince]

One could argue that two Flare cards aren't enough.

Cycles through the deck, highly effective against Hunter/Mage/Pally.

Also tonight:

Rank 4 baby!

[Dudebro]

I get that it's a great draw card for the cost but the other two stats are situational. If your opponent isn't using stealth or secrets it's kind of a wasted slot. Or at least a slot that could have a draw card that's an actual minion or something. That being said it would come in very handy for people using secrets, those can be a real pain in the ass.

[Kong]

I think the benefit is it's like paying with a 28 card deck instead of a 30 making it more likely to draw the more important cards.

[Kugyince]

Exactly, Kong. It thins out and cycles your deck. It also works as a utility card. The one mana cost allows you to use it at any time. The two mana for a card draw 1/1 could be better used to activate the Hunter's shot ability. It's an effective card draw any time you have one spare mana left your turn.

[Dudebro]

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying it's a bad choice I'm just saying it might not be the best choice, especially for someone starting out. Then again I tend to lose a lot so what do I know.

[Kugyince]

Here is the version I run:
Soulfire x2
Power Overwhelming x2
Flame Imp x2
Leper Gnome x2
Undertaker x2
Haunted Creeper x2
Ironbeak Owl x1
Knife Juggler x2
Nerubian Egg x2
Harvest Golem x2
Shattered Sun Cleric x2
Void Terror x2
Hellfire x1
Dark Iron Dwarf x2
Defender of Argus x2
Doomguard x2

Here is the adjusted version I've been running for the last three days, tweaked for the current meta-game.

Soulfire x2
Power Overwhelming x1
Abusive Sergeant x2
Flame Imp x2
Undertaker x2
Voidwalker x2
Zombie Chow x2
Dire Wolf Alpha x2
Haunted Creeper x2
Knife Juggler x2
Nerubian Egg x2
Harvest Golem x2
Shattered Sun Cleric
Dark Iron Dwarf x2
Defender of Argus x2
Doomguard x2

[Dudebro]

I mean no offense I swear but that deck seems like the same damn thing I see all the time when I play. Either blizzard needs to add more viable cards or people need to be more flexible with their decks, I'm not sure which.

[Kugyince]

There's about 6 or 7 popular deck builds right now. It changes as the game changes.

Currently I'm encountering a lot of aggro hunter, miracle rogue, secrets mage, and swarm shaman.

Handlock and Death priest have gone out of favor in the current meta.

It's a constant flux of two or three decks being popular so two or three decks that counter the popular ones become the meta. As those two or three counter decks become more popular than two of three decks that counter those become the new meta game.

That is how you rank up and play the meta. You try and adjust before the mass populous does. Counter the counter, so to speak. Tonight my zoolock countered everything that was being played. Tomorrow zoo will be most likely be popular and I'll probably switch to my Control Mage or make a Death priest deck to counter all the zoo I'll face.

[Kugyince]

Pulled a great card today!

http://raptr.com/thumb/342/370/3a15af36b0b10ea8144acc31b65040ad/?url=b4.raptrcdn.com%2Fimg%2Fscreenshots%2Forig%2F 819a1ebc124111397d109fe2c470db53.0b578fd6f844240a7 4d689658ec15ff3.jpeg&crop=0

[Dudebro]

Just got this card after not playing for a while-
http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/hearthstone.gamepedia.com/d/d6/Illidan_Stormrage%28203%29.png?version=fb39ad92941 9b823781752536ddbe8d9

[Kugyince]

I've seen some miracle rogue versions that run that card.

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Also, I pulled a second Deathwing today. It's too bad you can't trade cards with friends. I ended up disenchanting it and had enough to buy a Sylvanas Windrunner.

http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_11/4860.png

[Kugyince]

Was rewarded today by pulling this from a pack:

http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_11/4943.png

[psimaster]

Goblins vs. Gnomes on the 8th.
Get hyped.

[Kugyince]

Best card pack ever...

http://www.retrouprising.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3745&stc=1&d=1417924804

[psimaster]

if you had three, I would have gone "OH BABY A TRIPLE, OH YEAAAAAAAH"

[Kugyince]

For Psi:

http://www.retrouprising.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3747&stc=1&d=1418082440

[Dudebro]

Anyone who plays this off and on should log on asap to get the three free card packs from the new expansion. Not sure how long it will last.

[bearhawk72]

I got 2 epic cards off those packs, I don't remember what they are

[Dudebro]

Either the matchmaking is bad or the community is very top heavy. It seems like every match I play now is full of people with multiple non unlockable legendaries, lots of other high end cards and ranked card backs. I almost never see anyone who seems to be comparable to my skill level. I try to git gud but it's hard against these types of players. Anyone else having this problem recently? Without exaggeration I think I lose like 80% of the matches I play, shouldn't matchmaking find me easier targets?

[bearhawk72]

Now I don't claim to be good, but for a while I could hang in with people at my crappy low rank. Now I just get slaughtered whenever I play as well.

I am wondering if it's been out long enough people with lots of experience either started over to get a better ranking faster, or they are using alt accounts to try decks and strategies on people who suck so they can win pretty much no matter what, and earn the money to buy more packs and learn more cards.

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Hehe I made someone rage quit. He was beating me and got 5 minions on the board and looked to be buffing them to finish me off...until it was my turn and I threw a "deal 4 damage to all enemy minions" card on the board and wiped out all the minions.

He promptly quit because he only had 1 card in his hand at that point.

[Kugyince]

Either the matchmaking is bad or the community is very top heavy. It seems like every match I play now is full of people with multiple non unlockable legendaries, lots of other high end cards and ranked card backs. I almost never see anyone who seems to be comparable to my skill level. I try to git gud but it's hard against these types of players. Anyone else having this problem recently? Without exaggeration I think I lose like 80% of the matches I play, shouldn't matchmaking find me easier targets?

It's the new expansion. It's both drawn a lot of people back and thrown the entire meta out of whack. I normally hang out between rank 3 and 5. Now I'm at rank 10-13.

[psimaster]

My GvG only deck is a complete pubstomper, but it still can't beat tenser.



Damn it.

[Dudebro]

Of course after posting this and losing badly to Psi I went on a win streak. It was mostly default card back people with weaker cards so maybe match making finally felt bad for me.

Also that Piloted Mech dropped me a legendary during a fight with Psi, it didn't help but it was a lot cooler than what he usually drops.

[Kugyince]

If you're playing casual then its random matches. Matchmaking only works in ranked.

[Dudebro]

You sure about that? I'd like to see where that's stated by Blizzard. Not that I don't believe you I just like to be 100% sure.

[Kugyince]

I'm certain by that because I've played against players with legendary rank card backs and nubs with starter type decks back-to-back in casual.

You shouldn't be playing in casual anyways unless you're rough drafting a deck or playing a junk deck for a daily quest.

[psimaster]

I'm playing casual after getting matched up with over 100 goddamn hunters in ranked.

[Dudebro]

You shouldn't be playing in casual anyways unless you're rough drafting a deck or playing a junk deck for a daily quest.
You think I should be playing ranked even if lose most of my matches?

[Kugyince]

Yes, rank is the best way to get matched up to other people of your level. The more you play in ranked mode the more accurate it will be, at least until the season ends.

You don't lose anything for losing (you can't go below rank 20) but you can gain something by winning in ranked mode (card backs and golden classes).

[Dudebro]

I guess I could give it a shot, can't do much worse than I am now.

[Dudebro]

I got this with an Enchanted Portal. I waited until the guy almost killed me to use it and I turned the match around and stomped him. He was kinda of trolling with his speech lines the whole time and he probably thought he was gonna win right up until I hit him with a Pyroblast. It felt good man. He sent me a friend invite but I didn't accept it, I figured it was just gonna be rage mail and I didn't have time to engage him.

[Kugyince]

Untsable Portal is pretty fun to play. A bit too random to be that useful though.

Also, get your ass back in Ranked Mode. Fucking casual.

[Dudebro]

Yeah the next match I drew one of those 1/1 windfury minions, meh.

[Dudebro]

I formed Voltron by using a Recombobulator on some lame minion I had. The guy healed himself but he still didn't have enough withstand this ridiculous card

http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2014_12/5049.png

That's a crazy card.

[bearhawk72]

I play ranked a lot and I have to be like 6-30 w/l. I don't really bother to try and build a deck I just let the computer do it so it's not surprising.

[Kugyince]

Got one on lunch at work today.

http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2015_01/5122.jpg

That makes my collection of 19:

Trade Prince Gallywix
Grommish Hellscream
Bloodmage Thalnos
King Mukla
Baron Rivendare
Old Murk-Eye
Fuegen
Stalagg
Leeroy Jenkins
Loatheb
Maexxna
Sylvanas Windrunner
Gruul
Kel'Thuzad
Ragnoras The Firelord
Alexstrasza
Malygos
Ysera
Deathwing

[Kugyince]

Fatigue Mage deck I've been fine-tuning:

http://www.retrouprising.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3783&stc=1&d=1421472727

[Dudebro]

My magic almost tore you apart.


I got a couple screenshots.

1. This is the second time in a few days that I pulled that legendary off Recombobulator. I think both were gold too. I should've taken a screenshot of the first one.

2. Pulled that lame legend but actually squirreled Tenser. Still lost though. :(

[psimaster]

>HOLY SHIT A LEGENDARY
>Another Grommash Hellscream
aw...

[Dudebro]

I finally beat Naxxramas. The last boss almost beat me but my mech paladin deck proved to be too much for him. Thanks mainly to my awesome healing, like Lay on Hands. Death hit was from a silence minion that had no one to silence :(

[Dudebro]

This was cool. Went from 3 damage to 18, brutal. Enrage/windfury + Taskmaster + Rampage. With no taunt up that pretty much ended the match. Only cost 4 mana seems a bit OP but I'll take it since I won.

[Kugyince]

Technically it costs 7 as the worgan costs 3 to play. If you replace the task master with the 0 mana spell and run the 3 mana charge spell you can do 22 dmg on the same turn you play the Worgan for only 8 mana. Its the combo my warrior deck runs.

[Dudebro]

Worgan is also a great way to eat up their removal cards. Most games people rush to get rid of it, understandably.

[Dudebro]

Ok post your stat page, I'm bored. Anyone still playing this besides me?

[Kugyince]

Every day.

[Dudebro]

It's weird I never see you online anymore. Also damn at your high levels. You must have some nice gold cards. Not for Rogue though ;)

Speaking of rogue I think I'm done with it until they add some better cards. I always feel like I'm struggling to break even, if you know what I mean.

[Kugyince]

I usually do my quests on break now, around 8:30am.

[Dudebro]

I usually end up playing around 2pm, nap time. I can't play at the ass crack of dawn with you but maybe we can both try to get a couple games in at nighttime when normal people play games.

[Kugyince]

830 hardly seems early. Ive been up for 4 hours by then. I'm still at work at 2pm so yeah, night time seems fine.

[Dudebro]

8:30 AM is early to be playing video games usually. No wonder you have so many wins you must be playing with newbs from foreign countries and bots.

[Kugyince]

Speaking of, it seems that Blizzard's really addressed the botting issue. I use to see them all the time, now I don't think I've seen one in weeks.

[Dudebro]

I never noticed them in the first place. Some people play like bots anyways.

[Kugyince]

You can tell a bot because their cards aren't highlighted when they select them.

[Dudebro]

Ah ok that's good to know I'll keep an eye out for them.

We should get more people to play this. You're no fun to duel.

[CrispyChicken]

I have this game but I've only played a few matches. I'm too lazy to learn how to build a good deck, but I'll probably start playing more soon.

[Kugyince]

Ah ok that's good to know I'll keep an eye out for them.

We should get more people to play this. You're no fun to duel.

Why? Most of the decks I run now are gimmick decks that aren't meant for serious competition.

[Dudebro]

@Chris- Don't worry too much about it. Just do the tutorial matches and get a feel of the classes. Then pick one you like and build a deck around what style of play you prefer or what class specific cards it has. Part of the fun, at least imo, is trying out different stuff to see what works and what sucks.

@Kugyince- Because you always beat me. I think I only beat you once this whole time.

[CrispyChicken]

My name + tag is Chrisp722 #1587 by the way. I sent a few of you guys friend requests.

[Kugyince]

I sent you a friend request, Crispy.

Also, deck naming conventions:
http://www.retrouprising.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3828&stc=1&d=1425590916

[Dudebro]

My decks are all named Custom "class name here". I don't care when no one else will see them.

[Kugyince]

That sounds really creative. What do you do when you have two decks of the same class?

[Dudebro]

Custom Class 2. I'd be more creative but I change my decks so much I'd be changing my names every few days or so.

[CrispyChicken]

I've been playing a bit recently. I like the Priest class and I've had the most success with it so far. I also tried out the Hunter class for a few matches but lost the majority of them D:

[Dudebro]

Priest can be fun and it sometimes causes people to rage quit because matches tend to last a lot longer, but a win is a win right? If you wanna play a few matches sometime I can give you some pointers. I still lose quite a bit but I can help you avoid the noob mistakes at least.

[CrispyChicken]

If I ever happen to see you on while playing I'll shoot you a message. I kinda just play randomly during the day if I have free time for a few matches.

[Kugyince]

I've started playing competitive decks again. Fight me, scrubs.

[CrispyChicken]

I'm losing the majority of my games and I feel like I'm playing against people who are much better than me :( How is the matchmaking in this game?

[Kugyince]

Matchmaking only occurs in ranked mode. If you're playing casual, you're playing against random opponents, almost all of which will have more experience than you.

[CrispyChicken]

Matchmaking only occurs in ranked mode. If you're playing casual, you're playing against random opponents, almost all of which will have more experience than you.

Oh wow. That seems really unappealing to new players.

[Kugyince]

Why? There's never a reason to play in casual. There are only benefits to playing in ranked.

[CrispyChicken]

Why? There's never a reason to play in casual. There are only benefits to playing in ranked.

Because ranked is intimidating to new players. I would think most people would want to learn how to play first in casuals before getting into ranked.

[Dudebro]

According to the HS wiki each mode has it's own MMR(matchmaking rating).
Matchmaking - Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Wiki (http://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Matchmaking)

@Chrisp- When we played you only had one deck with the full basic cards and you were missing some key cards that you have to get from random packs. You're about as newb as possible, no insult intended. You're late to the party so you're gonna encounter a lot of people with more cards than you. According to the wiki those losses should make your rating go down and you'll start seeing less uber pros who slum in casual for lulz.

[CrispyChicken]

@Chrisp- When we played you only had one deck with the full basic cards and you were missing some key cards that you have to get from random packs. You're about as newb as possible, no insult intended. You're late to the party so you're gonna encounter a lot of people with more cards than you. According to the wiki those losses should make your rating go down and you'll start seeing less uber pros who slum in casual for lulz.

I understand that, but it takes twice as long to get new basic cards if all I do is lose to superior opponents. And it's annoying to spend all this time getting the basic cards when I'm losing so much. Not very encouraging.

[Dudebro]

By basic cards I mean the ones you get from leveling to 10. You shouldn't waste your time playing against people on classes lower than level 10.

You really might have better luck in ranked since it filters people more, or so it seems. You'll still run into decks you can't beat but it should be a little more consistent. Just pick a deck that has the basic cards and you feel comfortable with.

Another thing to consider is the time of day you play. When I play during the day I lose more than the nighttime. I assume it's because the player pool is smaller during the day and that small pool consists of more people who are obsessed with the game. Everyone else has lives and isn't online grinding.

[Kugyince]

Hearthstone: Trump Teachings - 1 - Board Control (Mage) - YouTube

Hearthstone: Trump Teachings - 2 - Mana Efficiency (Druid) - YouTube

Hearthstone: Trump Teachings - 3 - Fearless Tapping (Warlock) - YouTube

Hearthstone: Trump Teachings - 4 - Fearless Hitting (Rogue) - YouTube

Hearthstone: Trump Teachings - 5 - Favorable Trading (Shaman) - YouTube

Hearthstone: Trump Teachings - 6 - Card Advantage (Priest) - YouTube

Hearthstone: Trump Teachings - 7 - When to Face (Hunter) - YouTube

Hearthstone: Trump Teachings - 8 - Weapons Hold (Warrior) - YouTube

Hearthstone: Trump Teachings - 9 - The Long Game (Paladin) [End] - YouTube

[Kugyince]

Pulled one of these today:

http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2015_03/5324.jpg

[Dudebro]

Only legend I have that isn't unlockable is Illidan :(

[Kugyince]

I play enough that I'm opening a pack every other day, without fail.

[Dudebro]

I usually do too but I've been very unlucky. Most packs are dust with the occasional decent but not special card. Best ones I got recently were-

http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2015_03/5326.gif
and

http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/hearthstone.gamepedia.com/7/70/Muster_for_Battle%2812223%29.png
http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2015_03/5327.png

That combo can be pretty OP if used late game.

[Dudebro]

So apparently they're gonna release a new daily quest that rewards an expert pack for spectating a friends match. That should help newbs get less newb. It should also help the rest of us get more cards to keep the gap going.

[Kugyince]

I hadn't heard anything about the new quest.

I did preorder the new adventure.

[Dudebro]

I almost hit a guy with three Ragnaros and a Nozdormu but he got a better draw and shut me down before I could put it into action. Still completed the daily quest though so not so soul crushing.

[Dudebro]

I click the background a lot but this is the first time I've seen a golden beet :o

[Kugyince]

I've never seen that either, and I always change those until I have one of each. Maybe it was changed with the BRM adventure expansion?

[Dudebro]

Yup it seems like it came out on April 1st, right around when they updated for it. I was just doing my usual mindless clicking when I looked down at the plants and saw it. I might've had some before and didn't notice. Also I hear it's rarer than the old boot.

[Kugyince]

So far I've gotten these two from the BRM adventure:
http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2015_04/5424.png
http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2015_04/5425.png

and I just pulled this:
http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2015_04/5426.png

That brings my count up to 23 legendaries, 25 if you count duplicates I disenchanted.

---------- Post added at 09:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:13 PM ----------

Trade Prince Gallywix
Grommish Hellscream
Bloodmage Thalnos
Nat Pagle
King Mukla
Baron Rivendare
Old Murk-Eye
Fuegen
Stalagg
Emperor Thaurissan
Leeroy Jenkins
Loatheb
Maexxna
Sylvanas Windrunner
Troggzor the Earthinator
Gruul
Kel'Thuzad
Ragnoras The Firelord
Alexstrasza
Mojordomo Executus
Malygos
Ysera
Deathwing

[Kugyince]

Just crafted one of these:
http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2015_05/5474.png

Trade Prince Gallywix
Grommish Hellscream
Bloodmage Thalnos
Nat Pagle
King Mukla
Baron Rivendare
Old Murk-Eye
Fuegen
Stalagg
Emperor Thaurissan
Leeroy Jenkins
Loatheb
Maexxna
Sylvanas Windrunner
Dr. Boom
Rend Blackhand
Troggzor the Earthinator
Chromaggus
Gruul
Kel'Thuzad
Ragnoras The Firelord
Alexstrasza
Mojordomo Executus
Malygos
Nefarian
Ysera
Deathwing

26 in all. :clap:

[Dudebro]

So when are they gonna nerf Boom?

[Kugyince]

They probably wont. He's not being used in as many decks as he was when he first came out. He's mostly used in Mech Mage and Combo Ramp Druid now and that's about it. At least on a non-scrub level.

[Dudebro]

I need to get beyond scrub level then because I see it constantly. Regardless it's a bit too strong with those two bombs. You gotta waste a lot to get rid of it all and all the other has to do is wait for turn 7 or w.e.

---------- Post added 05-11-2015 at 07:18 PM ---------- Previous post was 05-08-2015 at 02:18 PM ----------

Tenser helped me with three of those spectate quests and I got two nice legendaries(the other was junk).

http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2015_05/5482.png

http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2015_05/5484.png



Things are looking up for this scrublord.

[Kugyince]

Pulled this Saturday:

http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2015_06/5616.png

[Dudebro]

Cool but he seems a little weak compared to other Legends.

I finally beat that stupid Paladin class challenge. It just worked one time after many bouts of bad luck. One more wing and I'm all caught up.

[Kugyince]

He's run a lot in combo ramp. I mostly run non-combo ramp which he's slightly less common in.

[Dudebro]

Honestly I barely play Druid I just find it boring for some reason.

[Kugyince]

Druid is probably my most competitive deck. If I just played Druid and played for a few hours a day I feel confidant that I could hit Legend rank.

Shaman is my least favorite. I just dislike the extra amount of randomness built into the hero power and class spells.

Rogue is my favorite to play surprisingly enough. Its one of the hardest decks to play, it just doesn't suit the current meta so I never play it.

[Dudebro]

Shaman is fun sometimes. I love pulling off the whirling zip o matic on turn one. Lots of times people can't remove it for a few turns and I get to hurt them bad.

Yeah Rogue is actually fun but I don't have the cards to do anything.

[Kugyince]

Crafted this today:

http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2015_06/5640.jpg

[Dudebro]

I crafted an Unstable Portal because I was sick of only having one. I also crafted a Faceless Manipulator because I was sick of having none. Great card.

[Dudebro]

I played a tavern brawl that went a bit crazy. I got Leroy and a couple other big cards but the other guy got not one but two Elite Tauran Chieftains. I've never seen that card in game before it was pretty cool. Then he got Alexstrasa and I was screwed.

[Kugyince]

Pulled a another legendary:

Beware the might of Millhouse Manastorm!
http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2015_07/5770.jpg

Possible worst legendary?

[Dudebro]

I suppose you could combine it with the troll that gets attack power when the other guys use spells and Cho but that's very situational so yeah, it's shit tier.

[Dudebro]

Opened 14 packs from the new expansion and I got 0 legends :( I also got 0 Druid cards but I don't really play it so meh.

[Dudebro]

I know no one cares but I gotta tell someone because it was so cool. I had a Sea Giant on the board and he used Ragnaros. I copied it and then removed it. I play the stolen Rag and my own is in my hand. He uses a Frothing combo without charge so next turn I MC it. He managed to put up a taunt that killed the Frothing but the second Rag was too much for him. I think I got off a resurrect but I don't remember because of how bad he got rekt.

[Kugyince]

Last thing I crafted before I stopped playing was a Mal'Ganis.

[Dudebro]

Why stop playing?

[Kugyince]

I stopped playing Hearthstone and Minecraft so I could focus my gaming time on my backlog.

It's okay though. I still have a Hearthstone stream or a Minecraft video playing in the background as I play other games.

[Kong]

I tried this earlier in the year. It was fun and addicting but it didn't give me any sense of accomplishment. I like games that have a clear end goal.

That and just because I changed my IP address they required I answer the security questions like "what is my mother's maiden name" but my answer was gibberish so uninstall.

[Dudebro]

@Tenser- Missing those daily quests bro!

@Kong- The point of the game is to beat strangers and make them angry enough to send you hateful messages.

[psimaster]

I got the shaman legendary for Grand Tourney called "The Mistcaller"
http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2015_09/5861.png WOAH

[Dudebro]

Then I mind visioned it and made you rage quit out of your 10 game win streak!
http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2015_09/5863.jpg

[Dudebro]

1. I mind visioned this guys Legend and then faceless manipulated it and had two on the board. Then he played his and I mind controlled it. He struggled to come back but there wasn't anything he could do again 3 minions over 10/10 and a shield masta I copied. Rekt.

2. Of course I get a gold epic and rare and both suck. At least I got 500 dust out of it.

Also I crafted this lady-
http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2015_09/5866.png

[Dudebro]

This weeks brawl is awesome. You get a random boss hero power and every time you use it you get a different one. You can also use it multiple times per round if you have the mana. Obviously inspire cards are super powerful and super fun. When I won my first match I also got 300 gold for winning 1k matches in any game mode, woo hoo. So with four packs to open it put me over the top to craft another legend. I've been wanting this for a while so I decided to just get it-
http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2015_10/5939.jpg

Now my Priest deck has two minions that can summon random legends. I love it.

[Dudebro]

Loving this brawl still. Paletress is bananas when they don't remove her right away.

[Dudebro]

I know no one cares about this game anymore but I thought this was kinda funny. Worst pack ever?

[Slime Slayer]

I know nothing of the game, but 4/5 draws being taunts sound pretty terrible lol.

[Dudebro]

It's not that they're taunts, although it is a pretty mediocre taunt card. The problem is I drew four of the same card in one pack. The odds of that must be astronomical. If I spent real money on this game I might've been pissed.

[Dudebro]

I know no one plays this atm but I wanted to post this and I got nowhere else to do it. This guy was unable to remove Paltress so I used a faceless manipulator on it and I suddenly had an army of legends. He must've gave up because he tried to just hit my face even though that one legends takes damage for me. At least he was a good sport and stayed until the end.

[Dudebro]

I got a friend invite after a pretty even match and this guy just ranted for like 15 minutes. At first I assumed he was trolling because he kept flooding the chat window but after he finally started communicating he seemed to really think I was cheating. Apparently I'm using a 3rd party program to "false draw". Even after googling that term I don't understand what it is, if anyone knows please help me out.

This guy is still on my friends list also. He logged on a couple times to yell at me and then just logged out for the night without saying goodbye. He came back on today and hasn't said a word. What a weirdo.

[joz]

This is how I imaged pinball looked when he logged off from your match http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2016_02/6099.jpg

[CrispyChicken]

Damn does he want fries with that salt?

[Dudebro]

@Joz- he probably looked like that for most of the match too. He was spamming emotes(the only communication with non friends) the whole time. Maybe he was so salty because I kept answering him with stuff like "sorry" and "thanks".

@Chrisp- I found a pic of his house-
http://www.retrouprising.com/img/2016_02/6100.jpg
That's a salt flat.

[elrod21]

@Joz- he probably looked like that for most of the match too. He was spamming emotes(the only communication with non friends) the whole time. Maybe he was so salty because I kept answering him with stuff like "sorry" and "thanks".That's a salt flat.

Or he could once again be one of the many Gamers who has become so over confident with their own skills or strategy in a particular game that when they lose the only possible answer in their deluded psyche is the other side MUST have cheated.

I can remember years ago playing some online 8-ball pool game through Yahoo that had rankings and the like and one of the players I was matched against right off the bat was annoyed that he was matched against a Canadian player. He told me I was a terrorist and I had better leave the game immediately. Doing so would have meant a forfeit and count as a loss, so I told him no, and that his only options were to forfeit himself or play me.

After much cursing he played me, and after a fairly close game I won. Well he cursed some more, told me I cheated because I'm a terrorist from another country and he was going to report me for cheating etc. Some people are just pathetic like that I guess. :dont-know:

[Kugyince]

You could always report the guy, DB. It'd be fun to see Blizzard ban his account.

[Dudebro]

@Elrod- Yeah I get the impression that he is convinced he couldn't lose to me by any normal means.

@Tenser- Next time I log in I'll goad him a little and see if he flips again, then I'll report him.

[Dudebro]

I know I'm the only person who plays this regularly but I was wondering if anyone else is saving up gold for the next expansion. I've got almost 1.5k saved up so I'll probably be at 2k when it releases. That being said this is the first time I'm not that excited about the new cards. From what I've seen so far it looks like a lot of gimmick stuff that is either a "win more" or "win more annoyingly" card. It seems like standard is gonna be annoying and wild is gonna be completely broken. I'm hoping for the best though.


I had a really fun game last night. I copied this guys Dread Steed then resurrected it. I stole his original one using Shadow Madness and then I used a Kel'thuzad I entombed from him and doubled them. He put up a valiant fight but he got trampled by his own minion. It doubt he enjoyed it as much as I did.

[Kugyince]

I've been spending my gold on GnG packs since with the new expansion they'll no longer be up for sale and you'll have to craft any GnG cards.

[Dudebro]

That's not a bad idea but I've opened so many of those and I keep getting duplicates of junk.