1.9 Server Addon and General Requests. Plans as well

[TheGuardian]

So with the full release just around the corner I've been fixing up the server again in preparation. First of all, until Bukkit and the other addons get updated I will be hosting the new 1.9 world and storing our 1.8 world and skylands world. Once those features are once again compatible I will bridge all three worlds with warps to starting areas. I also plan to implement a few addons regardless. things like Towny and Iconomy and an addon to make users able to lock chests.

I have open ears for any requests people have for things they want implemented or even things they do not want implemented On both maps will be a spawn town that I myself will be maintaining that will have basic equipment you can get for free. Stone tools and swords. if the Biome doesn't support trees I will artificially place some around the spawn area. It will also be lit up so that no monsters may spawn in there and be guarded by cactus barriers. Iconomy will be used to trade and buy hard to come by supplies like diamonds. Towny will be maintained by me at least at first, for cordoning off areas for specific users, to prevent creeper destruction for one, and any possible greifing. Reasonable plots will be offered for free, with larger plots able to be purchased with in game supplies or Iconomy money. Values to be determined.

I'm also looking for someone to become a moderator for the server as well. the moderator would have powers to control all functions of the server and it's addons, Those wanting this position should PM me what experience they have with moderation of games, and minecraft specifically. You may also PM me questions regarding the position, responsibilities and abilities.

I will keep everyone updated via this thread as to the state of the server and what's being implemented when.

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Update. I will be posting the server after we get everything in place to Minecraftservers.net and other places, and hosting as a public server under the RU banner.

[CatalystiCam]

I personally like the plugin Mcmmo. The only problem for the Ru server however is it alters the game in a more favorable way. Now hold your thoughts there... This plugin basically makes the game have stat points which I like. It provides the following using an Experience system:

Mining
Woodcutting
Excavation (aka digging)
Acrobatics
Sword skills
Fist skills
Axe skills (fighting with axes)
Herbalism (farming)

Basically you get exp for mining certain things and gain levels in each of those areas. Mining is the major one since it is done the most and has the most resources to give it exp. Different resources give different exp. For example; mining coal, gives more exp than mining stone, and mining diamond or obsidian pretty much gives more than all else. Guardian could also edit how much exp each block gives and how much the exp multipliers are.

Excavation covers digging out dirt and gravel

Acrobatics is given when you fight enemies and take fall damage.

Woodcutting is given for chopping down trees

Herbalism is given for farming and mushrooms

Each section gives a few perks though, and this is where I think you guys may dislike it. Normally, mining for example provides double drops eventually. Level 10 would be a 1.0% chance of whatever your mining dropping double what it normally does, and level 950 would give a 95.0 percent chance of double drops. It also provides a special ability that gets better as you level up called super breaker. Super breaker can be activated and it breaks all blocks in one hit for a short time, were talking like 5 seconds. It has a chance of giving triple drops depending on your level.

Most sections have something similar to Super Breaker. Others like Acrobatics however provide the chance that you may dodge your enemy or take less damage on a fall. These are increased as you gain levels as well. Same ratio I believe.

I mainly like this plugin because it provides stats, and leaderboards that everyone can access, which is cool. That is my favourite part of it. I would highly recommend this plugin. If you guys aren't cool with the boosts it gives then Guardian could always alter the odds so they dont provide things like super breaker or double drops nearly as often, or even at all.

whoo, big wall-o-text there, sorry. Can't really give a TL:DR...

That's my recommendation anyways.

[Dudebro]

@Guardian- I'm pretty confused by some of this.

"any possible greifing"
Are you expecting a lot? What constitutes greifing?

"Reasonable plots will be offered for free, with larger plots able to be purchased with in game supplies or Iconomy money. Values to be determined."
Does this mean mean stuff right near the starter area or are you going to be controlling where people are allowed to build in general?

I know I'm not the best choice for a game mod but if you did need my help to police the server I'd be glad to help. As you know I'm on later than most of you so I could be like the nightwatchman. All I'd need is for you to outline what you'd want me to do or not do.

@Cam- I like the sound of that plug in.

[TheGuardian]

@Cam Sounds like a good plugin, I'll put it up to a vote a little later on. I like the idea as well.

@DB I am not expecting a lot but with any public server there is always the possibility. it's more of a preventative measure. Greifing constitutes stealing people's stuff from chests, destroying houses, lava flows, etc. Reasonable being size of plot. I am not gonna let people claim whole mountains. You would need to pay for stuff like that. I'm going to not allow plots within a certain diameter of spawn, so that the resources in those areas can be gotten by new players.

Basically what I need from a mod is someone to just keep an eye out for suspicious activity, answering questions about the server and it's features if need be. Essentially a GM, who can play as they wish normally but also be able to respond to issues with users. I'll be doing my usual maintaining the spawn towns and floating around, keeping tabs on things. I'll be getting a few security addons as well but those won't be revealed to the public just yet.

[KATZ]

i can moderate the server if you wish me to, once the update comes out ill be on like i used to be (i have nothing better to do basiclly as im not in school and nobody is hiring.....)basically from 10:00 am to 1:00 pm eastern time... unless if im working on the car or gotta go in to town

[Dudebro]

So dumb this way down for me. When I join your server for the first time I can't just pick a direction to explore and settle anywhere I choose? What is this payment you keep mentioning, like in game supplies?
I have no problem with controlling development near spawn but other than that I don't think I like it.

Well I'm just gonna put my hat in the ring if you need me. I won't be playing right away so it's a moot point atm anyways. You know my tech limitations and you know I can be trusted to be fair, your move. ;)

[TheGuardian]

You can pick a direction and strike out on your own, once you settle down you can apply for an area. I need to refine the maximum but just say a 12x12 plot is the maximum for free. so you find an area and say, i want this. I give you exclusive rights to that 12x12 area. if you want more than you have to pay depending on how big you want it. say 13x13 is 2 credits. 14x14 is 4. etc. Payment will be using Iconomy credits, which can be gotten with things like gold. I'll work out exchange rates and pricing for larger plots and the size of free plots.

[Dudebro]

How would this be enforced? For example say someone picked a spot and their house plans went over the line by a good margin. Or what if someone just says screw you and builds however they want?

I'm not understanding the point of this restriction, I think that's my main beef with it.

[KATZ]

you can only build in that area, it prevents you from going out

[Dudebro]

Ugh that's worse than I thought. I don't mean to poo poo anyones ideas but I'm really not fond of this.

How would you be able to explore if you can't build shelters?

[TheGuardian]

You're missing the point entirely. You may still build wherever you please. the only thing owning a plot of land does is makes only you and those you designate able to place or destroy any blocks within the boundaries.

If someone builds outside of their margin then that portion of the house would be able to be modified by any user. but within only the owner can modify

[Kugyince]

I have experience with World Guard and Lockette, let me explain this.

@DB: You can still build anywhere you want for free. But if you want to pay in game money you can make it so only you can build in that area. It's optional.

@Guardian: I REALLY want to play when its released. I say start the map when 1.0 is out and add bukkit afterwards. I don't want to wait any longer.

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Also, I'll throw my hat in the ring. I still play MC every day. I've had user experiece with these plug-ins:
World Guard
Lockette
McMMO
Iconomy
Factions
Towny
Timber
Backpack

[Dudebro]

I get it now. I thought you were trying to control where people built for some reason. I think that's a cool addition to the game. At least with that SH wouldn't be able to bury me in dirt when I afk.

[TheGuardian]

@Ten I planned to, that was one of the things I said I was gonna do in my initial post. our current world is going to get stored and i'm going to pick up the basic server software when it comes out. Server will be up immediately, with our new 1.9 world. Anything you do will be saved for when we bridge the worlds. If you find a nice spot you like before we have all our addons just send me a pm with the coords from one corner to the opposite.

@Db Sorry if my explanations were shoddy. it's late and my language skeelz were going down the drain.

[KATZ]

do we have to get a new connect address?

[TheGuardian]

No, you do not. I'm getting the server software now. I was in a hard fought league of legends game lol.

[Kugyince]

Excited!

[KATZ]

Cant wait :D

[TheGuardian]

And we are online. 1.9 world is up and running.

[Seahawk]

And we are online. 1.9 world is up and running.

*picks up phone to order giant pizza*

[Kugyince]

http://retrouprising.com/other/minecraft/1-9-a/t12498/#post205471

[TheGuardian]

Roffle. Spawn was in the middle of the ocean, new map generated

[Kugyince]

Server's down.

[TheGuardian]

@Ten What was it saying? Server's been up all night. unless we were having net problems.

[RU Joe]

Just so you guys know, I'm going to play Singleplayer for a while until I get the hang of the new additions.
This is for my personal and also your collective benefit so as to bring me up to par with your MC skills.
I don't want to be nagging people about how to do this or that, and I imagine no one wants to babysit, either.

Once I am confident I know what I'm doing I'll have a look into Guardian's server.

[TheGuardian]

@JG Honestly It's not gonna matter much how great your skills are. I'm going to be implementing a lot of changes soon and I don't mind answering questions. I'm making a small admin staff for that purpose, to help people who have questions. I'm sure the rest of RU has no problems helping you too.

[Dudebro]

Well I managed to get online last night but I think MC killed my older PC. Turned it on today and it won't work right anymore. :( So it was fun while it lasted and I'll be back on eventually.

[TheGuardian]

Hope you're able to fix it soon DB.

[Dudebro]

Thanks me too. Atm I'm using a really outdated laptop with a broken screen(plugged into my monitor) so MC is completely out of the question. At least I got to try the update a little before it died. Btw my little house has some stuff in it, feel free to use it. It's the unfinished stone/brick house in the middle of the NPC town.

[CatalystiCam]

Sorry to hear, DB. Hope it works out, man.

I keep getting this error when trying to Join the server: "The Server Responded with an Invalid Server Key". Only gets fixed when I reboot, so I get a bit discouraged from playing...

[Dudebro]

Sumo and I both got that error too but it works if you try again a few times. I don't think you need to reboot.

[TheGuardian]

It's something everyone's been getting since 1.0.0 got put out. I get it sometimes when i try to log in via localhost.

[CatalystiCam]

Well, I think DB is right, but normally trying again, and again hasn't worked...

[Eradrazil]

Not sure if any of these plugins (well, technically features) have been suggested yet:

- Warps (can make public warps, and can also privatize self-made warps)
- /sethome (at least that way I can always get back to my house
- /tp (So it's much easier to visit other players)

[Dudebro]

I personally don't like having those options because it kills the challenge of the game. If the majority wants it I won't stomp my feet about it but I'd prefer less console commands.

[TheGuardian]

@Era Those addons won't be implemented. Anything that gives special commands to general users probably isin't going to even be considered, no offense. Also this idea was brought up for the warps before, as a passing mention (I already plan on using a mod capable of this, but for other reasons) and everyone declined, saying they wanted to make their own transportation systems. Beds are your built in /sethome. And TP could be abused easy. Keep in mind this is not always going to be just us. I do plan to make this public. I trust everyone here but I do not trust the randoms that will show up.

[RU Joe]

Guardian:
I do plan to make this public.
Ah, that explains why a user didn't know who I was {honestly I don't remember their username} when I was on the other night.

I was asking them questions about the world rules and they weren't responding.
So I said:
'RU Joe here.'
to which they replied:
'No, I am not.'

I got a chuckle out of that one.

Currently I am unable to connect with the server and am receiving that 'server responded with an invalid server key' message.

[Dudebro]

That was probably one of cam or guardians friends. I don't think it's public yet.

How many times have you retried to connect JG?

[RU Joe]

I've been trying several times each night.
Had success a couple of nights ago and was with Katz, who was kindly showing me the way to Tenser's place .. when it got laggy and I tried to reset - and got kicked off again.

[Dudebro]

Sorry wish I had an answer but I really don't besides just keep trying.

[RU Joe]

Sorry wish I had an answer but I really don't besides just keep trying.
It's Ok and thanks anyhow DB.
Apparently this is a Mojang/Notch problem so I'm certain they're aware of it and are trying to fix it.

In the meantime that world will have far fewer Creeper craters in my absence, so maybe try to think of it that way.

[Seahawk]

Not, creepers are more active and more dangerous than ever.

[RU Joe]

Not, creepers are more active and more dangerous than ever.
I only meant their apparent love of the skin my daughter applied to my sprite, SH.
It's an ongoing joke since back on DB's server that they always seem to target me over other players.
This is why I assume it could be the skin.

If I'm on Guardian's server while you are sometime you'll see the message 'backfromvancouv blew up' a lot.

[CatalystiCam]

Hmm, only friend of mine that's been on for the time being is Tehlulzdizzy which everyone should know by now. Unless, has kayne (magicofthedead been on)?

[Kugyince]

I would like to suggest a mod when/if available. One that would change it so the compass points to your specific spawn [a.k.a. bed] and not 0/0.

Thoughts?

[Dudebro]

I think most people would agree that's a lot more practical.

[TheGuardian]

I'll take a look into finding that mod if it exists. I'm unsure if it does but if it does I'll implement it since that is a useful tool. Also I'm debating getting an external hard drive to store the server on, specifically so I can bring back Dynamic Map.

[KATZ]

i vote for the external

[Seahawk]

MC is very intensive on the I/O system, due to fetching map data and saving constantly. And external drive probably won't cut it. Get the cheapest internal hard drive you can, either 320GB or 500GB (both are probably overkill for MC but smaller sizes are hard to find now).

[TheGuardian]

I'm not terribly worried about it as i have an eSATA port, Also Internal HD is out of the question as I'm on a laptop. if nothing else I would move everything to my external and let minecraft have the internal.