To the people who don't play Minecraft

[Dudebro]

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So let's hear it. Maybe you have some bad info or you're on the fence and we can help you out. I know the game isn't for everyone but I can't understand how this game has such a small following on a site dedicated to retro stuff. Yes the game is not retro but it seems to be very much designed to look and feel like it is.




I'm making this separate topic because the people I'm talking to will probably never check the MC topic. I'll delete this eventually so no one start wringing their hands about multiples. Do not discuss anything that would belong in the other topic.

[Kong]

Some people like to draw as a hobby. I do not. I think of this game more akin to drawing or virtual legos. All you do is build. No goals or challenges.

I haven't played it, that is just my impression and reason for not playing.

It seems like it has some but not all aspects of games like Rogue and Civ. I like those types of games but I don't think it has the particular aspects of them that I enjoy.

Plus it is 3d which is a deal breaker for me.

[Dudebro]

Building is a main part of the game but it's not the only thing you do. Exploration is also a huge draw for lots of people. The whole world is randomized so you'll never see the same thing twice. You can literally walk for hours and see countless amazing landscapes. To top that off you also have gigantic caves to explore complete with pitch blackness(until you put up torches or find some lava) and that sense of isolation that people seem to love. So really if you don't care about building you don't have to bother with it. A simple shelter is more than enough to hold your gear and let you craft more.

I can't speak about Rogue since I've never played it but I don't see the connection to Civ.

I know about your issues with 3D but are you sure this would be a problem? You can play MC at at very slow pace if you want, no vertigo inducing camera movement and such. I think I remember you said you tried playing the Conan MMO? If so MC should be fine for you.

[Tails]

Sorry, DB. Not only do I hate downloading, I hate building games. Not to mention it costs money. Trust me if it was free I would give it a shot and probably not like it.

[Dudebro]

I hate downloadingThat's weird, not sure how to even reply to that. FYI the game takes almost no time to download.

I hate building gamesLike I said above it's not only about building.

Not to mention it costs moneyOne time cost of about 20 bucks is a pretty damn cheap for a game of this scale.

[Tails]

That's weird, not sure how to even reply to that. FYI the game takes almost no time to download.It risks viruses and memory space. It'd have to be something interesting that I have no other way of playing for me to download.
One time cost of about 20 bucks is a pretty damn cheap for a game of this scaleStill, 20 bucks is 20 bucks I could buy a Megaman figure that the Capcom store finally restocked, Disgaea 4 Premium pack, it also can be my reserve money. Funds are tight DB.

[Dudebro]

It risks viruses
Only if you download from shady places. I doubt you're gonna get any viruses from downloading major games that are played by millions around the globe.

Still, 20 bucks is 20 bucks
Yeah and 20 bucks is still cheap for a game that has this much content and more on the way.

[Kong]

I can't speak about RogueThe predecessor to Taloons and Dragon Crystal. Those types of games are often called "Rogue-like".

I don't see the connection to Civ.The exploration part.

I know about your issues with 3D but are you sure this would be a problem?Yes.

I think I remember you said you tried playing the Conan MMO?Yep, and it made me sick.

$20 is also a deal breaker for me. I am both cheap and broke and there are several free games that I would rather play.

But I think the answer you are looking for is simply building and exploring by themselves do not sound interesting to me. I can sometimes like those aspects in games but not if they are the main focus and especially not if they are the only focus.

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I am glad the game exists and is so popular though. I like that originality and a small budget and a small dev team can still grab some gaming headlines.

[Squall]

The main reasons I don't play are because a) I currently do not have a penny to my name (literally) and b) would need to look up how to run it on linux.

Otherwise I'd be pretty much game!

[Tails]

Only if you download from shady places. I doubt you're gonna get any viruses from downloading major games that are played by millions around the globe.I know, but it's also bloated space with a new version every other week or so, or what I read in the topic.


Yeah and 20 bucks is still cheap for a game that has this much content and more on the way.It's cheap but it's also the reason I don't want to buy it. Rather buy something to do on the go.

[Dudebro]

The predecessor to Taloons and Dragon Crystal. Those types of games are often called "Rogue-like".I guess the case could be made for MC having some roguelike elements but I think that's mainly because everything is randomized.

The exploration part.Civ has nothing on MC when it comes to exploration. With Civ you're on a limited flat board that has a small overall map, even on the highest setting. MC is bigger and more dynamic than any other in game exploration I've ever seen, and I've seen a lot. The caves alone put Civ to shame in this respect.

Yes.
Yep, and it made me sick.That is really a shame. I know it's not the greatest idea but are you able to take any meds to help with that? I think if I shared your problem that's what I'd do.

But I think the answer you are looking for is simply building and exploring by themselves do not sound interesting to me. I can sometimes like those aspects in games but not if they are the main focus and especially not if they are the only focus.Well I can't argue with your personal tastes and other issues. I just figured you would really enjoy this game because it's so creative and we have a community going. We'll carry on without you but it just won't be as cool. :(


@Squall- Linux might be a deal breaker. I think it works for it but from what I saw you're better off running it on Windows for stability and support from the devs. I could be wrong though, not something I'd really need to pay attention to.

@Tails- You're reading the topic wrong. When a new update comes out there's always some issues but it's not as bad as all that. Btw my MC issues turned out to be my PC(I think).

Also I'm pretty sure they are in the process of making a mobile version.

[joz]

Never heard of it.

[Dudebro]

Oh come on now Jozzie don't troll me.

[RU Joe]

To the people who don't play Minecraft:

My daughter bought this game a while ago and when I first saw it I must admit I wasn't impressed.
I didn't know what to make of the Katamari Damacy - style graphics where everything is 'squared', and from what I could tell there wasn't much structure to the game in terms of clearly defined goals or a linear path to follow as we see in most other games.

Only when I got curious one day and started playing it myself did I realize what it's all about.

The lack of linear structure is one of the greatest things about it - it's literally a different game every time you play, with infinite different worlds that can be created and explored.
Large, sprawling worlds that take somewhere close to 400 hours to circumnavigate, giving the player lots of area to explore and materials to craft items with.

You can play the game with or without hostile mobs {the monsters of the game}, with or without Non - player created {NPC} villages and mines, and you can even change the difficulty level on - the - fly, mid - game.
As DB has stated, the game is still being improved and very soon there will be a further update which will expand the normal world parameters and increase the scope of the game, as well as introducing some new elements and characters.
The Nether {an alternate dimension within the game accessed by building a special Portal to it} is going to be expanded greatly with new hostile mobs being added and also some 'Nether NPC' buildings, which I can't wait to get a look at personally.

In case you haven't seen MC before, I recommend watching some videos on youtube to get an idea of what the game is like.
For those of you who are broke right now but are still thinking of buying a new game when you can, I highly recommend spending the $20 on MC - it really is one of the best games I ever played.

[Tails]

You're reading the topic wrong. When a new update comes out there's always some issues but it's not as bad as all that. Btw my MC issues turned out to be my PC(I think).

Also I'm pretty sure they are in the process of making a mobile version.Well isn't it true they're making yet another version to download? Don't want my PC to be filled with bloat.

Sorry to hear about your PC.

Mobile? I'd assume so with the popularity. Sadly besides texting I don't have internet on mine.

[Mareeps]

I don't play it because I have no way of buying it off the internet.

[Dudebro]

Well isn't it true they're making yet another version to download? Don't want my PC to be filled with bloat.
The game is in Beta so yes there are new versions to download from time to time. But that doesn't mean you have to redownload the whole game or anything big like that, it's just a patch.

Btw they plan on making a 360 version so maybe they'll do a PS3 one as well. Mobile seems like it would suck anyways.

I don't play it because I have no way of buying it off the internet.
You can't go get a prepaid credit card at walmart? I'm not 100% sure that works but I don't think it'd be any different than a real CC.

[Tails]

The game is in Beta so yes there are new versions to download from time to time. But that doesn't mean you have to redownload the whole game or anything big like that, it's just a patch.Now I had no clue it was in beta. :|

Btw they plan on making a 360 version so maybe they'll do a PS3 one as well. Mobile seems like it would suck anyways.Way trends are going and I can find a nonbricked cheap 360 might look into getting it. Obviously way down the totem pole for a 360.


You can't go get a prepaid credit card at walmart? I'm not 100% sure that works but I don't think it'd be any different than a real CC.
Just like a credit card but activation fee is costly. like 4-6 bucks.

[Slime Slayer]

I'm still on the fence, the main reason I haven't bought it, and the main reason I want to buy it are the same: I would like it alot. I try to steer clear of games that have no end because I value my time, as lame as that sounds.

[GamingWolf]

NOOOOOO! THE HYPE POLICE ARE COMING TO GET MEEEEEE! No really I've been trying to let the hype settle since Infiniminer but no such luck. It's everywhere man. Even so I haven't gotten around to it due to these reasons.

(1) Incessant advertising that makes me question mindless drones of people. I never get a chance to settle in somewhere before we go straight to minecraft phase. :(
(2) This laptop won't run it. Granted I have another computer... in fact I was going to get around to after I moved again.
(3) Addicting and therefore possibly take over my life.

So please prettty please. I don't want to be in this situation again where it's me against an established group disconnected from the original idea of the site.

P.S. I really will get around to it in a few weeks but I make no promises!

I do not like to be cross.

[CatalystiCam]

You can't go get a prepaid credit card at walmart? I'm not 100% sure that works but I don't think it'd be any different than a real CC.

It works, I've done it. I've also talked to him about it. He's in a secluded area where he can't find any I believe. If you're still looking, then look for a Prepaid Vanilla Mastercard or Visa. That is the brand I've used, then just set them up with paypal.

[Dudebro]

Now I had no clue it was in beta. :|
Does this mean you think Beta is a bad thing? Sure it's not perfect but it's pretty cool to be able to play the game while it's developed and fine tuned.

Way trends are going and I can find a nonbricked cheap 360 might look into getting it. Obviously way down the totem pole for a 360.
If you'd be willing to do that then just get the PC version. I can't see how any console port would compare.

Just like a credit card but activation fee is costly. like 4-6 bucks.
I'm sure you could get them with a cheaper activation fee but either way it will cost something extra unfortunately.

(1) Incessant advertising that makes me question mindless drones of people. I never get a chance to settle in somewhere before we go straight to minecraft phase.
You mean word of mouth right? Other than that I really haven't seen any official MC advertising. So to me it's just being talked about because it's so awesome.

So please prettty please. I don't want to be in this situation again where it's me against an established group disconnected from the original idea of the site.
There's no pressure to play this. You wouldn't be against anyone, we are just trying to get more people interested because the more the merrier.

@steven- It is very addicting but I find it's pretty easy to just log off and do something else. Maybe I'm weird though.

[GamingWolf]

Why do I procrastinate the things I love? :(

[joz]

Okay, so I have heard of it. But only by name. I have really no clue as to what kind of game it is. I haven't read any of the posts up in here either.

[Dudebro]

You disappoint me Joz. How can you not be the least bit interested in a game several of us are playing together and making like 700 posts about?

Here's a couple videos to show how it goes. Both are not up to date with the latest version though, but pretty close.
Basic overworld gameplay
Minecraft Gameplay Episode 1 - The Basics - YouTube

Caves
Minecraft Gameplay - Subterranean Exploration - YouTube

And yes the graphics are intentionally retro/low end. But it's deceptive. If you walk around you'll see awesome landscapes that rival new games like Oblivion(but not in graphics obviously).

[joz]

Looks interesting. So you're like a super zombie fighting miner out to do what exactly?

[Dudebro]

You're just some dude who is suddenly in this harsh world. If you don't use any cheats you have to immediately make a shelter and gather some resources. During the night people usually mine, cave explore or work on the interior of their house. Once you get settled you then pretty much do whatever you want. If you don't care for building you can start exploring. Some people explore just for the sake of exploring, like me, and some people do it to find new locations to build or to go spelunking.

In future updates they're adding NPCs who will supposedly give quests and you'll have levels and skills to customize yourself with. At the moment they only have the empty NPC villages(but they are pretty cool so no one minds).

[Tails]

Does this mean you think Beta is a bad thing? Sure it's not perfect but it's pretty cool to be able to play the game while it's developed and fine tuned. Beta can be good and bad. Bad at how many bugs happen, and the fact you have to pay to play the beta. Good that you can play the game early.


If you'd be willing to do that then just get the PC version. I can't see how any console port would compare.Unless something catches my eye about this game, I doubt I'll get it. I'll support the new Ikariam though. That's also another reason I don't want to play, see how fast Ikariam died out?

I'm sure you could get them with a cheaper activation fee but either way it will cost something extra unfortunately.Lowest I've seen is Netspend and that's 3.95.

[Dudebro]

Beta can be good and bad. Bad at how many bugs happen, and the fact you have to pay to play the beta. Good that you can play the game early.Well from what I read the Alpha version was and still is free. The Beta being pay to play is a way for them to make money and continue working on it. If people didn't pay they'd be working a lot slower and with less motivation. Also people who buy it now save ten bucks off the final price when it's launched.

I'll support the new Ikariam though. That's also another reason I don't want to play, see how fast Ikariam died out?You mean the game where our RU alliance was started in 08 and disbanded when I quit in January of this year? Yeah that didn't last long at all.::)

[Tails]

Well from what I read the Alpha version was and still is free. The Beta being pay to play is a way for them to make money and continue working on it. If people didn't pay they'd be working a lot slower and with less motivation. Also people who buy it now save ten bucks off the final price when it's launched.Then they should save the full 20 imo

You mean the game where our RU alliance was started in 08 and disbanded when I quit in January of this year? Yeah that didn't last long at all.::)I thought it ended in 2009? I know activity about it ended then.

[Dudebro]

Then they should save the full 20 imoWhat?

I thought it ended in 2009? I know activity about it ended then.It's kinda weird that you would be paying attention to a game you didn't play and didn't like. But no I think the real activity drop off was in 2010. But even so some people still had accounts when I quit and I know some were still active. The bottomline is RU people came together to play together for an extended period of time. That was with a crappy game that never improved, MC is constantly getting awesomer.

[Tails]

What?You buying Minecraft should save you the full price you're paying, not half.


It's kinda weird that you would be paying attention to a game you didn't play and didn't like. But no I think the real activity drop off was in 2010. But even so some people still had accounts when I quit and I know some were still active.
Incorrect. I did play. At the very beginning in 2008. I got bored with it and gave you all my crap.

[Dudebro]

You buying Minecraft should save you the full price you're paying, not half.
What?

Incorrect. I did play. At the very beginning in 2008. I got bored with it and gave you all my crap.
Yeah I remember but your time was so short it barely counts.

[Tails]

What?Are you trolling me now?


Yeah I remember but your time was so short it barely counts.No, I think I played for about 6 months. If I didn't care for a game I wouldn't pay attention to it, why I don't play Minecraft. I liked Ikariam in the sense of just building things, until I got attacked. I felt it was uncool and they kept on doing it and I decided to quit because I didn't want to war people I just wanted to build.

I try to at least now give stuff a chance. Why I ask so many questions about MC.

[Mareeps]

Well, a Super Wal-Mart just opened last month in town. I'll check for prepaid cards next time i go there.

[Slime Slayer]

Super
What is this "super"? I've only ever heard of regular old Wal.

[joz]

What is this "super"? I've only ever heard of regular old Wal.

It's the SNES version

[ZedIsDead]

Are you trolling me now?
No, I think I played for about 6 months. If I didn't care for a game I wouldn't pay attention to it, why I don't play Minecraft. I liked Ikariam in the sense of just building things, until I got attacked. I felt it was uncool and they kept on doing it and I decided to quit because I didn't want to war people I just wanted to build.


That's because you never defended yourself properly. Most of the time, you had no army, which practically shouts "FREE RESOURCES!".

I currently do not play Minecraft for the same reasons as Steven.

[Tails]

That's because you never defended yourself properly. Most of the time, you had no army, which practically shouts "FREE RESOURCES!I wasn't interested in an army I was interested in just building.

[samejamesbond]

I don't have the time, simple as that.

[Dudebro]

Are you trolling me now?
Nope I'm having trouble understanding what you're saying.

I wasn't interested in an army I was interested in just building.
And players of Ikariam would call you Bob the Builder and mock you for wanting to play Sim City. NT is right that was a war strategy game so no military means your a big target.

What is this "super"? I've only ever heard of regular old Wal.
Usually that means they're much bigger and have supermarkets along with other additional things like that all in one.


So what I've gathered from this topic so far-
some people just don't like it
some people are too cheap to buy it
some people are afraid they'll like it too much.
Two of those are not good enough, start playing.

[GamingWolf]

I don't suspect people will be sharing this activity at the same time. Glad you have perspective this time. I'm just so amazed at the prevalence.

Let neither of us force our prevalences on each other.

[samejamesbond]

Minecraft looks outstanding, but it would really distract me from my college work.

[Tails]

Nope I'm having trouble understanding what you're saying.ok the beta is 20 dollars right? You only get 10 dollars off the full version. why not 20?


And players of Ikariam would call you Bob the Builder and mock you for wanting to play Sim City. NT is right that was a war strategy game so no military means your a big target. Why I quit all I wanted to do was live in peace.

[Delegate Zero]

Never understood the hype behind it to be honest. From what I've seen, doesn't even look remotely interesting.

[CatalystiCam]

I knew quite a few friends who said they didn't want to play a game where they stacked blocks. Then they came back to me a while later and flipped out on how good it was, and how bad they wanted it. Then they acted the same way once they got it... Just saying.

[Kugyince]

@Tails: If you buy the Beta version for $20 you get the final $30 version for free. Thus you are saving $10.

[Tails]

@Tails: If you buy the Beta version for $20 you get the final $30 version for free. Thus you are saving $10.
Now that makes sense. I thought DB was implying you only saved 10 dollars for the real game.

[Dudebro]

I don't suspect people will be sharing this activity at the same time.
I'm not sure I'm following what you're saying but if you mean us playing MC at the same time then yes we actually do. Most people seem to play from around 3pm - 12am EST. The rest of the time is usually dead. Weekends being an exception obviously.


Let neither of us force our prevalences on each other.You seem kinda hostile about people playing MC, is that true? I don't understand why you think you'd be forced to play or go along with it. Sounds like you've had some bad experiences with stupid people.

@DelegateZero- I thought that at first too but after reading about it and watching videos I decided to give it a try and it turned out to be lots of fun. If you're tired of how linear and limited most games are you should give it a shot. You can play the alpha version for free still I believe. Just bear in mind it's not up to date so it'll look worse.

@Tenser- Thanks for clarifying what Tails was asking. Maybe I could've worded what I said a little better but I still think it makes sense.

@Tails-
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[CrispyChicken]

I agree with DB. When my bro started playing, I was like "This looks lame..." but when I got it, it actually turned out to be awesome!

[CatalystiCam]

I was so amazed by the game when it first came out... Too bad that feeling's kind of gone... Well, changed more so. I mean 14 months makes it kind of uninteresting to do the same thing :P

[KATZ]

i like playing on our RU server, single player bores me

[CrispyChicken]

@Katz- Same although I'm starting to get a little bored with the map. I loved the team thing we had going on the first server.

[Dudebro]

So make stuff near spawn, I did.

[CrispyChicken]

Don't worry, I'll find things to quell my boredom. Made a decent drawbridge just before.

[Kugyince]

Or find a couple of people and make a team effort building something.

I made an automated boat dock last night. You just puul up in your boat, flick the switch and presto, you're surrounded by land. Your boat cant float away when you exit it.

It took me alot longer than initially expected but now that the bugs are worked out I could reproduce it easily.