Hot Sauce Challenge

[Kong]

The heat of a pepper or hot sauce is measured in Scoville scale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Units.

It is determined by how many drops of sugar water are required to mask the heat of the pepper. A jalapeno takes between 3K and 8K equal parts of water to pepper to mask the heat so a jalapeno is rated between 3K and 8K. Tabasco Sauce is about 2,500 to 5,000.

Capsaicin is the chemical in peppers that makes them hot. Pure capsaicin is 16 Million Scoville Units and is as spicy as anything can get.

The following are some of the hottest extracts you can buy. If someone mails one of these to me I'll video tape myself eating a spoonful and put it on youtube.

Pure Capsaicin Crystal disolved in vegetable oil. 500,000 Scoville Units. About 100-200 times hotter than Tabasco. As hot as weak pepper spray. $20.
Pure Cap Hot Sauce Extract [1154] - $20.63 : Andys Hot Sauce, Home of the hottest!!! (http://www.andyshotsauce.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=660&zenid=1s0fu3ou7vm83ji3hgmmt62tm1)

Cool Million Peper Extract. 1,000,000 Scoville Units. About 200-400 times hotter than Tabasco. $30
Cool Million 1 Million Scoville Units Hot Sauce [9014] - $30.94 : Andys Hot Sauce, Home of the hottest!!! (http://www.andyshotsauce.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=899)


Mad Dog 38 Special Pepper Extract 3,000,000 Scoville Units. About 600-1200 times hotter than Tabasco. $42
Mad Dog 38 Special Pepper Extract [1497MD] - $42.19 : Andys Hot Sauce, Home of the hottest!!! (http://www.andyshotsauce.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=289)


Pure Capsaicin Crystal. 16,000,000 Scoville Units. The hottest possible. About 3,200-6,400 times hotter than Tabasco. Illegal in some parts of the world. It is only detectable if dissolved in alcohol so I will mix some in a shot of tequila. $50.
16 Million PURE Capsaicin Crystals, 1.0ml. (http://www.hotsauce.com/16-Million-PURE-Capsaicin-Crystals-1-0ml-p/hsc-16-million-crystals1.0.htm?click=2704)

[Dudebro]

The following are some of the hottest extracts you can buy. If someone mails one of these to me I'll video tape myself eating a spoonful and put it on youtube.
Why? Are you just really into spicy stuff but you're too cheap to buy it yourself?

[alohaex]

We did a hot sauce challenge once at the kitchen I work at it was to funny watching their faces as they ate each pepper they must have gone through 5 gallons of milk that day :lol:

[Kong]

Why? Are you just really into spicy stuff but you're too cheap to buy it yourself?
Yep. Joz posted this
My wife was out shopping and brought me this http://www.bbqsauce.be/image.axd?picture=Tabasco%20Chipotle.jpg Whoa momma! This stuff is really good! It's smoky and tangy with just the right amount of sugar. It's not very spicy compared to the regular Tabasco, but the flavor is simply amazing. I put it on some pizza last night and my chorizo and eggs sandwich this morning. If you ever find this thing, grab a few bottles.
And it made me think this thread was worth a shot. And I thought it might make an interesting video.

[Dudebro]

Well if I felt like buying bowel scorching hot sauce and sending it through the mail to someone it'd be you.

[Seahawk]

Related article.

Curse words present, so kind of not safe for work.

The Science Behind Stupidly Hot Peppers [CHART] | Cracked.com (http://www.cracked.com/article_19187_the-science-behind-stupidly-hot-peppers-5Bchart5D.html)

[Slime Slayer]

When I was about 8 my buddy's brother said he would give me 95 cents if I ate a whole habanero pepper. I woke up in the middle of the night with ungodly stomach pains, it was all I could do to roll around on the floor driving my fist into my stomach.

[Kong]

The Science Behind Stupidly Hot Peppers [CHART] | Cracked.com (http://www.cracked.com/article_19187_the-science-behind-stupidly-hot-peppers-5Bchart5D.html)Interesting. I never knew the reason peppers are hot is to drive away mammals so birds can spread the seeds

I have some ground dried naga jolokia. Either it is over rated or my batch is a dud. I also have some ground dried habanero and it is just as hot as the naga.

[RU Joe]

all I could do to roll around on the floor driving my fist into my stomach.
I think you were feeling bad enough without the punching.
Take it easy on yourself next time.

ON TOPIC:

I say this whole heat scale is a subjective thing.
What seems hot to me may seem mild to the next person or vice - versa, so how can we determine the heat of a pepper except through personal experience?

http://www.xazztic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/fire-300x249.jpg

The other issue is that not all peppers grow with the same heat.
I've had peppers coming from the same plant where some seem hotter than others.
So how could I describe the heat of those peppers to someone else?

Also, different countries seem to have different views of what is hot; here in Canada 'Pepper Jack' cheese is mild and the peppers they put in it have no heat at all, in my opinion.
Pepper Jack cheese from the U.S. I've tried had considerable heat by comparison.

[joz]

I eat habanero and cheese tamales for breakfast. My wife told me about a time she went to Europe and ate a spicy dish in France. All it had was black pepper. I know Indian and Thai food is really spicy, so they're used to the heat.

[Demon-Mask]

I enjoy spicy foods. Not as much as I used to, but I still do enjoy them.

[alohaex]

Gotta love the spice of life bad pun I know but it's true :lol:

[sezthemank]

I love hot spicy foods, I have Hot pepper sauce (made from scotch bonnet peppers) on sandwiches. Ive ate that many hot chillys my taste buds dont register anything milder than a vindaloo curry.

I have had that cool million pepper extract on a ham sandwich - the hotest I ever had, boy did that burn like hell! never again!!
I would use it in a dish maybe but never a sandwich again.

[alohaex]

Wow you braver then I am girl :eek:

[sezthemank]

I just love ma Chillys! :D

[alohaex]

I can see that :D

[tanc24]

Kong, if I had $50 lying around I'd definitely send you the capciacin crystal. Watching you mix that with a tequila shot would be epic.

As for spicy being subjective, that's true to an extent, however when you start getting into the HOT HOT realm like Kong is describing, their is not much subjectivity. Scoville units is pure science.

I used to have a fetish for Dave's Insanity Sauce. I think I've told this story before, but I single handedly ruined a high school cafeteria lunch break by dumping an entire bottle into the community BBQ sauce. There's more to the story, but you get the idea.

As I've also mentioned before, I'm all about the Sricacha (sp?), nowadays. Perfect amount of heat with great flavor. Mmmmm good!

[Demon-Mask]

I love Sriracha, that stuff is the best.

[Kong]

www.chilefoundry.co.uk - Darth Naga vs 16 Million SHU pure crystal capsaicin extract! - YouTube

I've always called Sriracha "cock sauce". Best part is everyone always knows exactly what I mean. But if you say "Sriracha" they usually have no clue.

[Dudebro]

My mouth has gone on strike and my ass will probably hand in it's notice tomorrow morning.:lol:

[Slime Slayer]

I've had the stuff that was on the desk behind him. My buddy put about 500 wings worth on 1 wing and for about 20 minutes he was on his knees hanging off the counter in the kitchen and all his pathetic little voice could say was "heeeelp".

[tanc24]

The stuff behind him is Dave's Insanity Sauce. See my earlier post, but I was hooked on the stuff back in the day. It's lethal, but compared to this other stuff Kong has been talking about, it's nothing.

[Slime Slayer]

The stuff behind him is Dave's Insanity Sauce. See my earlier post, but I was hooked on the stuff back in the day. It's lethal, but compared to this other stuff Kong has been talking about, it's nothing.
Oh yeah, I think the stuff I had was a powered up version because it came in a small bottle but I dont know for sure, I've never seen a big bottle like that. It clocks in at 180,000 scovill units.

[Kong]

I read a lot about hot sauces. It is the closest thing I have to a physical addiction.

I haven't tried Marie Sharp's but I have read several reviews that say it is the best all around when considering heat, flavor and price.

This is their hottest one
Marie Sharp's Hot Sauce from Belize (http://www.anjosimports.com/shop/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=105)
It is still cooler than Dave's but it is close to habanero level. They have some lower level varieties too.

[Dudebro]

Btw you guys are nuts to pursue this kind of stuff. I can barely stand the spice/heat of V8 Spicy Hot, if I had some of that crystalized stuff I'd probably need medical attention.

[Slime Slayer]

I used to be into the torture, but as of late I'm finding its ruining my meals because you can't taste anything but the pain.

[sezthemank]

The stuff behind him is Dave's Insanity Sauce. See my earlier post, but I was hooked on the stuff back in the day. It's lethal, but compared to this other stuff Kong has been talking about, it's nothing.

Ive tryed Insanity, Its quite hot, not too keen on the taste though.

Can eating too much spicy foods make you ill?
Or even eating some indivisual thing thats massivly hot damage you?

[alohaex]

I heard it can not sure though. I heard someone had to get their stomach pumped because of it

[joz]

Really hot food is even hotter coming out. Hot spices also cause damage to the inside lining of your stomach and can cause bad cases of heart burn and ulcers.

[Josephjo]

Really hot food is even hotter coming out. Hot spices also cause damage to the inside lining of your stomach and can cause bad cases of heart burn and ulcers.

Wuss! You are a disgrace to your spice loving countrymen,

[joz]

Wuss! You are a disgrace to your spice loving countrymen,

I never said that happens to me. I have an iron gut.

[Seahawk]

The following are some of the hottest extracts you can buy. If someone mails one of these to me I'll video tape myself eating a spoonful and put it on youtube.

Pure Capsaicin Crystal disolved in vegetable oil. 500,000 Scoville Units. About 100-200 times hotter than Tabasco. As hot as weak pepper spray. $20.
Pure Cap Hot Sauce Extract [1154] - $20.63 : Andys Hot Sauce, Home of the hottest!!! (http://www.andyshotsauce.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=660&zenid=1s0fu3ou7vm83ji3hgmmt62tm1)

Cool Million Peper Extract. 1,000,000 Scoville Units. About 200-400 times hotter than Tabasco. $30
Cool Million 1 Million Scoville Units Hot Sauce [9014] - $30.94 : Andys Hot Sauce, Home of the hottest!!! (http://www.andyshotsauce.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=899)


Mad Dog 38 Special Pepper Extract 3,000,000 Scoville Units. About 600-1200 times hotter than Tabasco. $42
Mad Dog 38 Special Pepper Extract [1497MD] - $42.19 : Andys Hot Sauce, Home of the hottest!!! (http://www.andyshotsauce.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=289)


Pure Capsaicin Crystal. 16,000,000 Scoville Units. The hottest possible. About 3,200-6,400 times hotter than Tabasco. Illegal in some parts of the world. It is only detectable if dissolved in alcohol so I will mix some in a shot of tequila. $50.
16 Million PURE Capsaicin Crystals, 1.0ml. (http://www.hotsauce.com/16-Million-PURE-Capsaicin-Crystals-1-0ml-p/hsc-16-million-crystals1.0.htm?click=2704)

Do you think any of these or something comparable are available in any old grocery store? I'm willing to sink some money into this if I can get it without any special efforts.

[Orphan]

Recently bought this at a local spice shop...

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/hotsauceworld_2176_64593931 (http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/hotsauceworld_2176_64593931)

Made from extract of the Bhut Jolokia pepper(aka Ghost Pepper).

Mad Dog 357 Ghost Pepper Hot Sauce (http://www.hotsauceworld.com/maddog357ghp.html)

I put one drop in a bowl of chili and couldn't feel the inside of my mouth. My brother (on a dare) swallowed a teaspoon and proceeded to puke. This stuff is INSANE!

[Kong]

Do you think any of these or something comparable are available in any old grocery store?Not even close. You have to go to a specialty shop or the Internet.

This site has good prices Andys Hot Sauce, Home of the hottest!!! (http://www.andyshotsauce.com)

[RU Joe]

Well, again I feel I must state that I believe the whole issue is based on an individual's point of view .. or sensitivity to heat, more accurately.
For example, I would personally not go any hotter than a pepper from a plant and some of those I've had are painfully hot to eat ; all natural, lots of pain to be had.
So while I understand the quest for something hotter, I just don't share it.

For those of you who want lots of flavor and enough heat to send you to the hospital {like it did to me, after eating nearly half a large container} I recommend this stuff, which is commonly available and isn't a major investment {around $7 for a large bottle, small size shown in picture}:

http://peppers.com/cube/images/uploads/vietnam12.JPG

I know someone mentioned their other product, the 'Siracha' sauce:

http://www.templeofthai.com/images/products/5143262040.jpg

but after trying both I find the chili/ garlic paste to be much tastier and also hotter.

And before anyone says that I'm ignoring the science behind the Scoville units heat scale, let me tell you that I am not.
All I'm saying is that even the science behind the measurement is subject to an individual's tolerance of heat.
So that kind of turns the Scoville scale into little more than a guideline, in my opinion.

Kong, I thought you would find this amusing:

'Ass in the tub Armageddon sauce - the hot sauce to end all!'

http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/pvqf3.cnxy3/v/vspfiles/photos/1353-2T.jpg?1314679088

[Dudebro]

Well, again I feel I must state that I believe the whole issue is based on an individual's point of view .. or sensitivity to heat, more accurately.
That does factor into how each person will react but the measurement system is not anecdotal.

[Tails]

When I think of hot sauce I think of cartoons like Animaniacs when they eat it they spit fire out of their mouths. I used to eat hot sauce, but my stomach is very sensitive to spicy things now. :(

[RU Joe]

jg:
well, again i feel i must state that i believe the whole issue is based on an individual's point of view .. Or sensitivity to heat, more accurately.db:
that does factor into how each person will react but the measurement system is not anecdotal.
jg:
and before anyone says that i'm ignoring the science behind the scoville units heat scale, let me tell you that i am not.
All i'm saying is that even the science behind the measurement is subject to an individual's tolerance of heat.
So that kind of turns the scoville scale into little more than a guideline, in my opinion.

[Dudebro]

I disagree with that. Seems to me that if they're measuring the capsaicin then that's pretty set in stone. But I don't honestly care much about this discussion so if I'm wrong oh well. :)

[Kong]

The modern more scientific and more accurate measurement is High-performance liquid chromatography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-performance_liquid_chromatography) but it hasn't been used as much so it is harder to get the ratings for specific items.

The Scoville number is determined by how much water is required to completely mask the hotness. It is measured by a panel of human judges so it is not 100% accurate. Also different peppers even on the same plant can be slightly different so it is just a general range, not a perfectly exact science.




Kong, I thought you would find this amusing:

'Ass in the tub Armageddon sauce - the hot sauce to end all!'

http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/pvqf3.cnxy3/v/vspfiles/photos/1353-2T.jpg?1314679088

I have ate a lot of hot stuff. I have never once felt it on the way out. One time I ate a whole pickled habanero and it felt like someone hit me in the stomach with a bat and I almost threw up. I don't know why, maybe an empty stomach. But I normally don't feel it any lower than my throat.

[RU Joe]

I disagree with that. Seems to me that if they're measuring the capsaicin then that's pretty set in stone. But I don't honestly care much about this discussion so if I'm wrong oh well. :)
No, I agree with the science behind the test.
What I'm saying is that people are different and will therefore react differently to things.

For example, my own metabolism is such that I cannot eat an apple without having a glass of water immediately afterwords, because it sets my mouth on fire with its acid.
While this may seem strange to most people {and they do say it's odd}, this is what I have experienced consistently throughout my life.
So while the majority of people can eat apples with no consequence, I cannot.

Applying this same mode of thinking to the hot peppers issue, I think it's within the realm of possibilities that some people would be able to tolerate much more heat than others.
It is by that reasoning that I say the Scoville unit scale is subject to individual interpretation based on personal experience.

[Dudebro]

Well they should stop using the Scoville measurements and just go with the scientific one.