Nintendo's big announcement

[Slime Slayer]

So apparently at the Tokyo Game Show, the big n is going to announce something "extremely big" to kick off the event.

Anyone privy to any insider information or have any good guesses?

I think they might have bought Capcom, just a stupid guess mind you.

[Tails]

The Wii U controller?

[Slime Slayer]

Ummm... what?

[Kugyince]

1) The event is going to focus on the 3DS. Sauce: Nintendo Announces Trade Event in September - News - Nintendo World Report (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/27581)

2) This is nothing new. They've made a habit of holding an event around TGS for awhile now.

[Slime Slayer]

2) This is nothing new. They've made a habit of holding an event around TGS for awhile now.

There is something specific that's supposedly going to be a jaw dropper.

[Blue Shoe 2]

my guess? they probably reeled in a big exclusive title.

[Slime Slayer]

"It seems a Japanese site called Inside Games has come back with a report about Nintendo’s 3DS-related event on September 13th. There’s been some other outside sources indicating a note of an announcement, but they were not solid on the Sept. 13th date. However, it does mention that Nintendo plans on showing something BIG."

Source if anyone can read Japanese: ????9?13??3DS?????????????? | ????? (????3DS?????) (http://www.inside-games.jp/article/2011/08/23/51079.html)

[Seahawk]

It could be related to this.

Rebranded 3DS With Decreased Emphasis on 3D, Second Analog Stick Coming in 2012: Report (http://www.1up.com/news/rebranded-3ds-decreased-emphasis-3d-second-analog-stick-coming-12)

[Demon-Mask]

The second analog stick is not going to happen.
Why? Because they'd render the version with only one analog stick absolutely obsolete, as developers would make use of the second analog stick. Games developed for dual analog sticks, with the original version of the console only having one analog stick causes problems.
It's second hand speculation, at best.

[Slime Slayer]

The second analog stick is not going to happen.
Why? Because they'd render the version with only one analog stick absolutely obsolete, as developers would make use of the second analog stick. Games developed for dual analog sticks, with the original version of the console only having one analog stick causes problems.
It's second hand speculation, at best.
Supposedly the second analog rumour is that it will actually be an add-on to the existing 3DS. I'm not looking forward to it personally if it's true that is.

[Demon-Mask]

How would you add it on to your existing 3DS?

[Slime Slayer]

The only spots where it could plug in with any function would be the sd slot, or the cartridge slot. Perhaps it will not even plug directly in and rely on bluetooth or something.

[Demon-Mask]

SD slot and cartridge slot are both things you don't want to loose.
And doing it by bluetooth seems odd to me, where would you place it? How would you keep it from moving around?
If they planned on having a second analog stick, they'd have started with it there.

[Seahawk]

The second analog stick is not going to happen.

Yeah I know (for all the reasons you posted), but this thread is speculation already =P.

[Demon-Mask]

Speculation is fun if you know it's speculation, not fact.

[RU Joe]

Could they have bought the rights to that guy's {sorry I forgot his name} glasses that allow you to change camera view simply by moving your head relative to the screen?
That would be a quantum leap in Gaming in my opinion.

[Slime Slayer]

Could they have bought the rights to that guy's {sorry I forgot his name} glasses that allow you to change camera view simply by moving your head relative to the screen?
That would be a quantum leap in Gaming in my opinion.
Well, someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that the Kinect can do it already. I'm not sure how well it would work though.

[Kugyince]

I'm up for an upgrade.

[Slime Slayer]

I'm up for an upgrade.
I saw that on NWR, I was a bit suprised I must say.

[Kugyince]

Since I've decided to focus on handheld gaming it's freed up a lot of cash. I haven't touched another system (except for Minecraft) in months and I don't miss it at all. I now have the time and money to dig deep into the DS library and grab any new releases out of whim.

I haven't checked the thread but I'm sure it ticked off a few people.

[sora2k10]

that makes no since to have a update . i got the 3ds when it came out its not bad at all . they just need to get the games out and there doing that at the end of this year . but the big annoucement could focus on 3ds stuff or maybe a wii u thing like a game for it or something who knows though

[OmegaShadow]

Personally, I doubt that this announcement (whatever it is) will be anything I'll find exciting.

[Kugyince]

@sora:

Bigger screen.
Bigger sweet spot.
Second circle pad.
Longer battery life.

[Tails]

This is why I hate Nintendo. >_>

This again?

[Slime Slayer]

What on earth is a sweet spot?

[Kugyince]

The angle at which you can hold the 3DS and still view the 3D.

[Slime Slayer]

Ahhh.. I've never had issues but it would be nice for 2 people to see it at once.

[Demon-Mask]

@sora:

Bigger screen.
Bigger sweet spot.
Second circle pad.
Longer battery life.
I'm not sure about the second "circle pad". The rest I believe.

[Seahawk]

I'm not going to believe that Nintendo is going to introduce a new model of 3DS when they are having trouble selling the current one. Maybe a cosmetic change like a new color can happen, but I can't see the sense in releasing a new hardware revision already.

[Seahawk]

O_O

http://s1.proxy03.twitpic.com/photos/large/391680324.jpg

Update: Circle Pad Attachment Coming to 3DS (http://www.1up.com/news/circle-pad-attachment-coming-3ds)

[Kugyince]

@sora:

Bigger screen.
Bigger sweet spot.
Second circle pad.
Longer battery life.

Check.

[Thunderlips]

Mario has decided to pull a Tom Selleck / Burt Reynolds and shave off the stache as he pursues rolls in more mature rated games such as Resident Evil 6.

[Slime Slayer]

I wonder if it's Nintendo or Capcom responsible for this? Either way I'll be getting one, it looks like the extra bulk will make the D-pad usable.

[Tails]

That's.. stupid. O_o

[Mareeps]

The add-on better not cost too much.

[Slime Slayer]

I wonder if it will effect the already horrendous battery life.

[CatalystiCam]

A huge shot in the dark, but I'm hoping for some Pikmin 3, eh? Anyone somehow with me?

[Seahawk]

A huge shot in the dark, but I'm hoping for some Pikmin 3, eh? Anyone somehow with me?

Micro managing units on an already tiny screen? No thanks, let's keep it on the big screen TV.

[CatalystiCam]

eh, idk. Having a portable pikmin would be great I think. Maybe some wifi for the combat mode? Plus you could just zoom the camera.

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Bam! Google!

Are Pikmin Invading the 3DS? - DS News at IGN (http://ds.ign.com/articles/114/1143152p1.html)

Old article, just speculates and talks about it. I don't agree with the writers stylus control Idea. Idk though, give us both control options as usual if it did happen.


In other ideas, maybe they are updating the F-Zero Series? It would be one fans would go crazy over. Not necessarily me, but still.

[Slime Slayer]

For Pikimin, one screen could be a wide shot and the other could be a closer view for managing. I don;t care either way, I've never played the game and thought it was kinda retarded when I watched my buddy play it. I'd be down for some F-Zero though.

[Kugyince]

@Cam: Nintendo confirmed Pikmin 3 for WiiU at this year's E3.

[CatalystiCam]

eh, too bad I'm not getting the WiiU though. Thanks for confirming though.

[Seahawk]

At this point I'm really think Nintendo needs to do a full recall of all 3DS units on store shelves, and offer a buyback program for all purchased units. Send the system back to R&D and launch it again after actually looking beyond their 3D and motion control gimmicks and putting on functional controls.

If they don't, this will just be another half assed peripheral that will be forgotten just like the collection of Wii devices (motionplus, balance board, other stuff) that no one develops for.

Their current handling of the 3DS has been a catastrophe like Sony handling the PSP at the start.

[Slime Slayer]

SH you must be drunk, the 3ds is picking up steam as we speak. The system is already past the threshold of being a failure, and has bright future, it will be as succesful as the DS.

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New Castlevania to be revealed at the pre-tokyo show btw.

[Seahawk]

I'll admit to have been hungry, sleepy, and cranky when I wrote that.

I don't drink btw.

[Demon-Mask]

O_O

http://s1.proxy03.twitpic.com/photos/large/391680324.jpg

Update: Circle Pad Attachment Coming to 3DS (http://www.1up.com/news/circle-pad-attachment-coming-3ds)
Well, I'm mad. They released an incomplete system just to end up releasing a probably overpriced perpherial that may not even get released stateside.
Basically, having a 3DS without this would lead to it being totally obsolete, plenty of games will utilize this extra circle pad and extra shoulder button (only R2, no L2).
Well, good thing I didn't invest in a 3DS.

[Kugyince]

So why are you mad?

[Demon-Mask]

Because I don't like it when people pull this kind of crap.
Why is anyone mad about anything that doesn't directly effect them?

[Slime Slayer]

Well, I'm mad. They released an incomplete system just to end up releasing a probably overpriced perpherial that may not even get released stateside.
Basically, having a 3DS without this would lead to it being totally obsolete, plenty of games will utilize this extra circle pad and extra shoulder button (only R2, no L2).
Well, good thing I didn't invest in a 3DS.
I think that thing is made by Capcom for use with MH, Nintendy didn't have anything to do with it, and I doubt any games will need it, including MH.

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My thoery is based on the design of the thing by the way, if Nint made it they would have included some consistency with the pre existing design.

[Demon-Mask]

Oh, okay. That would be better.
I got used to playing MH without a second analog stick, you don't really need it to effectively control the camera and the character at the same time.

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What do you mean by consistency? It is of a similar size in pretty much the same location, how is it inconsistent?

[Slime Slayer]

I think Nintendo would have kept the same shape as the 3DS and not rounded off the corners so much, I think that the unit would sit flush in the attachment, and the second analog would have been the same size as the original one. Right now its looking very Madcats 'ish to me.

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Basically the thing is an eyesore and Nint wouldnt do that.

[Demon-Mask]

I don't know enough whether or not it is Nintendo's doing.
I doubt any third-party knows enough about the 3DS hardware and the way it is coded to register input to make something like that.

[Mareeps]

The add-on looks kinda fake the longer I look at it. It could just be an elaborate hoax, this isn't the sort of thing that's hard to fake. Unless I see gameplay with it, I think this isn't real.

[Slime Slayer]

The add-on looks kinda fake the longer I look at it. It could just be an elaborate hoax, this isn't the sort of thing that's hard to fake. Unless I see gameplay with it, I think this isn't real.
Valid point, one thing you'll notice is the perspective of the 2 different circle pads, one is smaller but since they are laying on the same angle the should be the same shape, the one on the right is definetly a lot closer to the shape of a circle, while the one on the left is much more eliptical.

[Kugyince]

It will most likely only come bundled in with Monster Hunter and not be used for any other game. People are over reacting I think. Think of it as like a DDR dance pad.

[Demon-Mask]

But, will it be required to play Monster Hunter? It provides an extra circle pad and an extra button, seems like not having those may make Monster Hunter unplayable.
Whatever, it's not like there are going to be any more Monster Hunter games released stateside.
The last Monster Hunter game has been out for nearly a year, at least the PSP version of it has.

[Seahawk]

If you're around at the time of posting, the conference is on. It's all japanese though.

ƒjƒ“ƒeƒ“ƒh.[3DSƒJƒ“ƒtƒ@ƒŒƒ“ƒX 2011.bNintendo (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/conference2011/index.html)

[Slime Slayer]

Woot, thanks for the link.

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I'm getting a "connection rejected" message... boo.

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An alternative if anyone else is having the same issue: Watch the Nintendo 3DS Conference 2011 live | VG247 (http://www.vg247.com/2011/09/13/watch-the-nintendo-3ds-conference-2011-live/)

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New game announced for you Tails, it's called "Girls Mode".

[Seahawk]

Conference is over, but there is a very bizarre cartoon playing right now on the feed.

Quick and dirty dump of games presented.

---Missed everything before---
4 Swords game (DSiware download)
skyward sword 11/23/2011 special edition with music cd

misty pink 3ds 10/20/2011

mario 3d land 11/3/2011
mario kart 7 12/1/2011


mario tennis 2012
Paper Mario 2012
luigi's mansion 2 2012
mario/sonic london olympics 2012
animal forest 4 2012
??? something life simulator? 2012
girls' mode (fashion game) 2012
soccer game 2012
card game 2012
fatal frame? 2012
fire emblem 2012
koei/tecmo vs. game (maybe Dynasty Warriors or related?) 2012
Square Enix RPG Bravely Default: Flying Fairy 2012
SD Gundam Generation 3D 12/22/2011
Hatsune Miku Project Mirai (singing rhythm game) March 2012
Biohazard Revelations 2012
Ace Combat 3d Cross Rumble
Tekken 3d prime edition
Theathrhythm Final Fantasy
Slime Mori Mori 3 Dragon Quest 11/2/2011
Girls' RPG Shindeshi Life
Love Plus 12/8/2011
Metal Gear Solid 3D Snake Eater
Palutena's Army 1/2012
Monster Hunter 3 Tri-G 12/10/2011 5,800 yen
Monster Hunter 4

Nintendo's not too happy about how 3DS buyers are mostly men at this point so they are releasing a "Misty Pink" color model.
http://retrouprising.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2094&stc=1&d=1315886490

The last batch of Wii games:
http://retrouprising.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2095&stc=1&d=1315886611



After the conference a very bizarre cartoon came on the feed. It was an promotion for Monster Hunter Tri-G. I mean what is this I don't even.
http://retrouprising.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2096&stc=1&d=1315886774http://retrouprising.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2097&stc=1&d=1315886774
http://retrouprising.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2098&stc=1&d=1315886843

And then more ads started playing, one went for Love Plus and right now its Theatryhthm.
*edit*
There is continuing coverage of games on the feed I posted so it might be worth watching. All japanese still.

[CrispyChicken]

Paper Mario 3DS :)

[Demon-Mask]

Paper Mario: a game relying on the 2D nature of the character.
3DS: a handheld relying on the 3D capabilities.
The two who should not meet.

[Slime Slayer]

Contrary to popular beleif, even a sheet of paper exists in 3 dimensions.

Nice work SH, much appreciated. I'm pretty upset about no Castlevania announcement, in due time I suppose.

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Oh, and that soccer game looked epic!!!!

[Seahawk]

Looks like it's over for good.

There was a segment on Doubutsu no Morii 4 (Animal Forest) and they had freaking KAZUMI TOTAKA there. That guy is a music legend in my book, I mean he has composed boatloads of music for Nintendo ever since the late 80s. Some might recognize him by his Animal Cross surname "Totakeke".

http://retrouprising.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2099&stc=1&d=1315890377

That was freaking awesome, hands down the best part of the feed for me.

[Dudebro]

His songs in AC were all awesome.

[Tails]

Fire Emblem? This?

DS Fire Emblem: New Mystery of the Emblem - Heroes of Shadow and Light - YouTube

[Kugyince]

Fatal Frame - Would like, wont be brought to the states.
Bravely Default - Most likely a yes for me.
Dragon Quest Heroes 3 - Most certainly.
Hatsune and Theatrhythm look good but I'll probably go for Sega's Rhythm Thief.
Monster Hunter 4 - Slight maybe.

@SC: Konami might be waiting for TGS to announce Vania.

[Squall]

I saw a video for MH4 today and just sat gawping at the screen Looks amazing!

[CatalystiCam]

Other than ones I mentioned being excited over before. The Square Enix game might be interesting since I like Square Enix RPG's

Also, why is Animal Crossing called Animal Forest 4?

[Blue Shoe 2]

Because they're called Animal Forest in japan.

[Seahawk]

Doubutsu no Morii = Forest of Animals

Animal Forest = Animal Crossing

I had to go fast to keep up, and I write translations pretty literally when I go fast, forgive me.

[CatalystiCam]

Animal Forest sounds cooler, and makes more sense imo. I hate how they always change the north american translations. It's like Dr. Robotnik, and eggman. Come on! Who thought eggman was a better idea?

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Doubutsu no Morii = Forest of Animals

Animal Forest = Animal Crossing

I had to go fast to keep up, and I write translations pretty literally when I go fast, forgive me.

No, no, don't worry. It's cool, and thanks for the translations.

[Dudebro]

I think crossing sounds better. Isn't the point of the game that your character is basically crossing into their woods to live? Animal forest seems to leave out your human character.

[CatalystiCam]

eh, either way it doesn't matter. just think forest sounds cooler imo, it also doesn't matter since the series went far down hill since the GC anyways lol.

[Squall]

All the details about the conference:Nintendo Conference 2011 3DS - All the Details - Sarcastic Gamer Forums

tl:dr (all pics/vids in spoilers)

price for new second circle pad: roughly $20
will require 1 AAA battery to run (sucks)

software update in November sometime: adds to streetpass plaza, adds 3d video recording capabilities, and updated eShop.

Super Mario 3D Land:http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/LatinLegacyNY/Games/SM3DL.jpg
Super Mario 3D Land Trailer at Nintendo 3DS Conference 2011 - YouTube

Mario Kart 7: Mario Kart 7 Trailer at Nintendo 3DS Conference 2011 - YouTube
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/LatinLegacyNY/Games/MK73DS.jpg

Paper Mario Paper Mario Trailer at Nintendo 3DS Conference 2011 - YouTube
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/LatinLegacyNY/Games/Paper-Mario-3DS-2.jpg

Mario Tennis: Mario Tennis Trailer at Nintendo 3DS Conference 2011 - YouTube
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/LatinLegacyNY/Games/Mario-Tennis-2.jpg

Luigi's Mansion 2: [NC2011] Luigi's Mansion 2 - YouTube

Fire Emblem 3D (unlikely to leave Japan): Fire Emblem Trailer at Nintendo 3DS Conference 2011 - YouTube
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/LatinLegacyNY/Games/Fire-Emblem-2.jpg

Monster Hunter 3G (will use circle pad and I personally doubt it will leave Japan): Monster Hunter Tri G Trailer at Nintendo 3DS Conference 2011 - YouTube

Monster Hunter 4 (preview only. No real details. Not even officially announced.): N3DS『モンスターãƒ.ã ƒ³ã‚¿ãƒ¼4（仮題）ã€. コンセプトæ˜Â*åƒ. - YouTube

Animal Crossing: Animal Crossing Trailer at Nintendo 3DS Conference 2011 - YouTube

Dynasty Warriors VS (Will have 4 player co-op): [NC2011] Dynasty Warriors VS - YouTube

Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime 3: [NC2011] Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime 3 - YouTube

Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 3D: [NC2011] Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater 3D - YouTube

New Love Plus: [NC2011] NEW LovePlus - YouTube

Theatrhythm: Final Fantasy: [NC2011] Theatrhythm Final Fantasy - YouTube

Sonic Generations: [NC2011] Sonic Generations - YouTube

Sorry for the length. Let me know if anything's not working properly and I'll try to fix it.

[Dudebro]

price for new second circle pad: roughly $20
will require 1 AAA battery to run (sucks)
Fail. I'm not even getting why it needs a battery.

[Seahawk]

Fail. I'm not even getting why it needs a battery.

What do you think any electronic device runs on? Magic?

[CatalystiCam]

Sonic Generations looked cool from the trailers I saw ages ago, also always like Mario Tennis. Well, my 3ds purchase looks to have somewhat of a bright near future now.

[Squall]

No, but we all kind of assumed it was going to at least run on the 3DS battery. I would've found that slightly less annoying - i just plug mine in whenever I get the chance!

[Tails]

What do you think any electronic device runs on? Magic?
He probably assumed the 3DS battery.

[Squall]

Way to ignore my post Tails! :P

[Dudebro]

What do you think any electronic device runs on? Magic?
What Squall said, I assumed anything additional would run on the systems own power. It just seems odd that a controller attachment for a system with controls built in would need additional power.

[Seahawk]

How would it hook up to the battery? There is no external connection (like the GBA serial port or the DS' GBA cartridge slot) to draw power from.

[Dudebro]

Honestly I really don't get why it needs power, please explain if you don't mind.

[Slime Slayer]

Regardless of where the power would come from, the damn thing doesnt have a drop to spare. I have noticed playing with the 3d off seems to at least double the lenght of the charge.

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Honestly I really don't get why it needs power, please explain if you don't mind.
It needs to send an electrical signal from the pad to the 3ds. "See all that stuff in there Homer? That's why your robot never worked."

[Seahawk]

Honestly I really don't get why it needs power, please explain if you don't mind.

I don't understand why/how you think it would work without power.

[Slime Slayer]

Squall left out the highlight of the conference in my opinion:
Calcio Bit - Trailer - Nintendo 3DS Conference 2011 - YouTube
I seriously doubt we will see it localized, there is one for GBA I'm gonna check out though.

[Dudebro]

I don't understand why/how you think it would work without power.
I'm admittedly uninformed about this. To me this is just something that attaches to the system and works with the existing hardware. I'm not trying to be difficult, honest.

[Seahawk]

I'm admittedly uninformed about this. To me this is just something that attaches to the system and works with the existing hardware. I'm not trying to be difficult, honest.

I know, but every electronic device needs a power source to operate.
In this case A) to get voltage readings for the analog and B) to transmit that information to the 3DS.

As I said earlier, it doesn't look like the attachment connects electronically to anything on the 3DS, so there's no way to draw power from it. So it needs it's own power source.

[Dudebro]

Well that's not gonna be popular with people I bet. I know I hate changing extra batteries.

[Seahawk]

The battery will probably last a very long time, more than you'd think.

On my rumble pack for the Nintendo 64 controller, I recently replaced the batteries. The expiration date on them was May 2007. And the expiration dates on batteries are usually 4 years in the future. So these batteries lasted 8 years and would have lasted more (they were still working), but I replaced them because the terminals were actually corroding and I didn't want any acid leaks inside in the thing.

And these were two AAA batteries on a device that uses actuators for rumble. Actuators gobble down A LOT of power.
The 3DS attachment is just powering an analog to digital converter chip (for the analog pad) and (probably) a wireless transmitter to feed that info to the 3DS. It will last a while.

Apple keyboards are wireless and require two AA batteries. I don't know how long they last, but there's not much complaining there so I think power wise this thing will be ok.

[CrispyChicken]

Ooh, I didn't realize they were releasing Mario Tennis. I always liked those. May get it then. When's release date? 2012?

[Tails]

The battery will probably last a very long time, more than you'd think.

On my rumble pack for the Nintendo 64 controller, I recently replaced the batteries. The expiration date on them was May 2007. And the expiration dates on batteries are usually 4 years in the future. So these batteries lasted 8 years and would have lasted more (they were still working), but I replaced them because the terminals were actually corroding and I didn't want any acid leaks inside in the thing.

And these were two AAA batteries on a device that uses actuators for rumble. Actuators gobble down A LOT of power.
The 3DS attachment is just powering an analog to digital converter chip (for the analog pad) and (probably) a wireless transmitter to feed that info to the 3DS. It will last a while.

Apple keyboards are wireless and require two AA batteries. I don't know how long they last, but there's not much complaining there so I think power wise this thing will be ok.My Logitech Keyboard I've had for almost a year now and haven't replaced batteries. Just my mouse I've had to.

[Mareeps]

I don't see the add-on requiring non-rechargeable batteries.

[Demon-Mask]

Contrary to popular beleif, even a sheet of paper exists in 3 dimensions.

Should I start using emoticons every time I make a joke? I'm not a damned idiot, I know paper has three dimensions.
I think the more recent Paper Mario games used the fact that paper exists in three dimensions to have interesting abilities. I don't really remember.
What do you think any electronic device runs on? Magic?

Yes, everything runs on magic.

[Slime Slayer]

Should I start using emoticons every time I make a joke?
You and I both it would seem.

[Kugyince]

Lovin' Spoonful - Do You Believe In Magic - YouTube


@DB: For simplicity's sake the circle pad is like a remote control as the 3DS is the TV. You would be changing out the circle pad's battery about as often as you chnge out a remote control's battery.

[Dudebro]

So now that that's settled why didn't they just make this as a part of the system before launch? It really hasn't been that long since release so I think it's a fair question.

[Tails]

To make more cash.

[Slime Slayer]

Because Capcom is putting it out, not Nintendo.

[Dudebro]

Ok but then isn't it strange for a game developer to make an attachment for the system like that? Does it mean they don't think the core system works well with Capcom games when it comes to controls?

[Slime Slayer]

Think of it like the guitar hero attachment on the ds. The developpers just thought it would be better with a different control scheme. MH is designed for the user to control the camera him or herself, they wanted to preserve that "feature".

[Dudebro]

Yeah but the difference is Capcom isn't making some radically different game with equally different controls, are they? It does seem like the controls that are sold with the system aren't up to par with what capcom needs for it's games.

[Slime Slayer]

Yeah but the difference is Capcom isn't making some radically different game with equally different controls, are they? It does seem like the controls that are sold with the system aren't up to par with what capcom needs for it's games.
Didnt you just read what I typed? They wanted to preserve the camera control, thus requiring a second analog.

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Nintendo isn't gonna go around to every developper and ask them how the system should be designed for frig sakes.

[Dudebro]

I read what you said but I thought MH was related to your guitar hero thing, now I get it. But that means they're doing this for a couple games that might not be sold outside the US or am I missing something?

Btw no need to double post if no one replied after you, we probably didn't see it yet anyways.

[Demon-Mask]

About the Monster Hunter controls, it worked quite well with four face buttons, one analog nub, two shoulder buttons and a d-pad in the past, what's different here?
They could even use the touch screen for something or other to make it work better.

[Seahawk]

No offense, but honestly do either of you two really care? You don't have a 3DS and I don't think you have plans to get one. Why sweat all these details when they don't affect you at all?

[Kugyince]

@DB: Yes, Capcom is bundeling this with their MH game that they may or may not sell outside of Japan.

[Squall]

@DM: The point is that the d-pad is on the bottom, which may make it even more awkward than the controls on Freedom 2/Freedom Unite were. Admittedly, I still probably wouldn't get the attachment and force myself to use the d-pad for the camera. Means I don't need to take my thumb away from the attack/items/dodge buttons!

[Kong]

How does the new D-Pad communicate with the 3DS? Wireless? Bluetooth?

I think what might have been confusing some people is you plug a controller into an NES or USB or nearly anything else and the controller doesn't need it's own power supply. But I don't think this is plugged into anything.

Also, first post said N was going to announce something big. Was it just the second circle pad? Because that doesn't sound very big and it was Capcom that is doing it, not N.

[Slime Slayer]

Im not sure what the "big" thing was supposed to be. I think Nintendo probably just dropped the word casually during an interview and the rumours spread and the whole thing got blown out of proportion.

[Seahawk]

How does the new D-Pad communicate with the 3DS? Wireless?

It'll be wireless. The system just plugs into the cradle.
From pictures it looks like the thing covers the cartridge slot.
I'm guessing that communication will be through infrared medium. The top of the cartridge will have an infrared window and the game will take data from the attachment through that. It makes sense to me, infrared requires very little power.

Also, first post said N was going to announce something big.

I think the 'big' thing was Monster Hunter 4. It may not be big for us but remember this was a conference for Japan. That series is hugely popular there, it pretty much single handedly saved the PSP in that region.

[Demon-Mask]

No offense, but honestly do either of you two really care? You don't have a 3DS and I don't think you have plans to get one. Why sweat all these details when they don't affect you at all?
I just like to know things, if that makes sense. I do eventually plan on buying a 3DS, I like to know if this would be something critical or not.
@DM: The point is that the d-pad is on the bottom, which may make it even more awkward than the controls on Freedom 2/Freedom Unite were. Admittedly, I still probably wouldn't get the attachment and force myself to use the d-pad for the camera. Means I don't need to take my thumb away from the attack/items/dodge buttons!
I never thought the controls in Freedom Unite were particularly bad, I've had worse controls.

[Squall]

I didn't say they were bad, I said they were awkward. Once you got used to them you were fine. But after starting out with tri it seemed uncomfortable to control the camera with the claw!

[Demon-Mask]

They were definitely awkward, I'll give you that.

[Dudebro]

No offense, but honestly do either of you two really care? You don't have a 3DS and I don't think you have plans to get one. Why sweat all these details when they don't affect you at all?
I'm just curious. I could get a 3DS for christmas(more like my wife might get one) but nothing is set in stone.

[Kugyince]

SH was right, Monster Hunter 4 was the "big" thing, also Love Plus was a huge announcement to.

Monster Hunter and Love Plus are both very close to Dragon Quest status in Japan.

[Demon-Mask]

I wish Monster Hunter had done better over here.

[Squall]

Yeah same. Right now I'm really just happy so long as at least one game from each generation comes here!