E3 2011 - Nintendo

[Seahawk]

Conference Summary:

Legend of Zelda 25th Anniversay
Skyward Sword
Four Swords Adventures free for DSi
Mario Kart 3DS
Star Fox 64 3D
Kid Icarus Uprising
Various third party 3DS games (Resident Evil, Cave Story, Metal Gear Solid 3, etc)
Wii U controller (console not shown at conference)
http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/117/1173472/ControllerInline_1307462319.jpg

Personal scorecard from here: (http://retrouprising.com/other/chat/pre-e3-hopes-speculations/t11831/p2/#post187652)

Two things at this conference: 3DS games and new console. Wii and DS are largely over and forgotten. - RIGHT

-Focus on upcoming first party 3DS games: Star Fox, Zelda, Kid Icarus. - RIGHT

-Talk about some third party 3DS games: Resident Evil, Cave Story, probably a casual game like Brain Age or something, others? - RIGHT

-Unveiling of 3DS shop/features -WRONG

-New console reveal and description -RIGHT (mostly, controller only)

-Promo video starring Iwata and Miyamoto -RIGHT =P

-Maybe 20 minutes dedicated to the last Wii/DS games: 10 minutes to Skyward Sword, 10 minutes to the two Kirby games. Probably less. -KINDA RIGHT, the "probably less" part was true, no mention of Kirby

-95% of no mention of Last Story, Xenogears, Pandora's Tower localization outside of Japan. -RIGHT

Mostly spot on with my guesses :p.

Personal Thoughts
They wasted too much time talking about non-games, especially at the start with Zelda. Miyamoto really should learn english like Iwata does, his and the translator's voice overallped a lot >_>.

Kinda ok show, but not enough time talking about the games. Also, they should have shown that console thing also, I thought the controller they showed was just another Wii peripheral -_-;.

[Tails]

Four Swords Adventures free for DSi - if GCN version sweet, I loved it.

[CrispyChicken]

Conference Summary:

Legend of Zelda 25th Anniversay
Skyward Sword
Four Swords Adventures free for DSi
Mario Kart 3DS
Star Fox 64 3D
Super Mario 3D

Wii U controller (console not shown at conference)


I'm excited about these games :) I'll probably get them all when they come out if not most of them. Not too crazy about the new console, mostly because I'm not sure exactly what it is lol.

Four Swords Adventures free for DSi - if GCN version sweet, I loved it.

I'm with you on that one! :victory:

So anything about Paper Mario 3DS revealed? :p

[Seahawk]

So anything about Paper Mario 3DS revealed? :p

The conference is only for the biggest announcements, but the show doesn't end there. There will probably be a lot more things shown off at the demo halls. For continuing coverage you can go to other game sites (1up, IGN, Gamespot, others) and Tenser might post Nintendo articles if he feels like it.

[Kugyince]

http://gonintendo.com/?p=160129
http://gonintendo.com/?p=160128

YouTube - ‪Professor Layton and the Last Specter: E3 2011 Trailer‬‏

http://gonintendo.com/?p=160126

YouTube - ‪[E3 2011] Luigi's Mansion 2‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TMXkYhdEDjU)

YouTube - ‪[E3 2011] Animal Crossing‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ya0qaY5iZZw)

YouTube - ‪[E3 2011] Super Mario‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lNKcY1eMnLw)

YouTube - ‪[E3 2011] Kid Icarus Uprising‬‏

YouTube - ‪[E3 2011] Mario Kart‬‏

YouTube - ‪[E3 2011] Picture Lives‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bG2NsDt51bo)

YouTube - ‪[E3 2011] Rolling Western‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ywCI1FTnhBI)

YouTube - ‪[E3 2011] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=X5BG3tehVAA)

YouTube - ‪[E3 2011] Paper Mario‬‏

YouTube - ‪[E3 2011] StarFox 64 3D‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=E5vtXFEjo6Y)

http://gonintendo.com/?p=160123
http://gonintendo.com/?p=160119
http://gonintendo.com/?p=160118
http://gonintendo.com/?p=160116

[Tails]

Omg tanooki!!!

<3

[Kugyince]

Fractured Soul Coming to 3DS - News - Nintendo World Report (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/26614)

E3 Video Compilation with Super Mario 3DS - Video - Nintendo World Report (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/video/26616)

Professor Layton Chapter Four Finally Confirmed - News - Nintendo World Report (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/26610)

The Rolling Western Announced for eShop - News - Nintendo World Report (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/26609)

Luigi's Mansion 2 Impressions - Impressions - Nintendo World Report (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/impressions/26606)

Super Mario Impressions - Impressions - Nintendo World Report (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/impressions/26601)

Super Mario Preview - Preview - Nintendo World Report (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/preview/26598)

Kirby Wii Unveiled for North America - News - Nintendo World Report (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/26603)

Luigi's Mansion 2 Impressions - Impressions - Nintendo World Report (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/impressions/26607)

Super Mario Impressions - Impressions - Nintendo World Report (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/impressions/26608)

Next Mario Party Iteration Announced for Wii - News - Nintendo World Report (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/26599)

Link's Awakening Available Today on eShop - News - Nintendo World Report (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/26574)

[Slime Slayer]

Wii U controller (console not shown at conference)

Maybe Miyamoto did forget it in Japan. So there was no footage of any games at all? And is U the name of the controller or the console?

[CatalystiCam]

Was blown away, that's all I can say to put it simply. All the possibilities the new console brings are just limitless. It will probably be a console loaded with shovel ware again unfortunately. I can look past that though, third parties are always cashing in bad games on gimmicks as well as on regular consoles, not a smuch though imo.

For the moment, I'm only interested in the 3ds stuff however. I have high hopes for that as well.

[Kugyince]

GoNintendo - Ubisoft bringing Assassin's Creed, Rabbids, and Ghost Recon to Wii U (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=160136)

YouTube - &#x202a;Resident Evil Revelations E3 Trailer&#x202c;&rlm; (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5QTLtLr844&feature=youtu.be)

GoNintendo - Tecmo Koei America reveals Exclusive Wii U Ninja Gaiden (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=160134)

YouTube - &#x202a;[E3 2011] Kirby Wii&#x202c;&rlm; (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFhIQxLxEi0&feature=youtu.be)

GoNintendo - Aliens: Colonial Marines for Nintendo Wii U (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=160130)

[Dudebro]

Did the show anything that wasn't colorful and cutesy? I didn't look through every link but of the ones I did it's all like that.

[StarfoxFan2009]

I'm blown away with how they did on Starfox 64 3D. It will probably do well

[Seahawk]

Well damn Tenser.
http://retrouprising.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1967&stc=1&d=1307479093

[Slime Slayer]

Lulz SH.
Glad too see some great stuff comming down the pipes. These were all announced for the Wii U:
Smash Brothers
Battlefield 3
Batman: Arkham City
Assassin's Creed
Ghost Recon Online
Darksiders II
Dirt
Aliens: Colonial Marines
Metro: Last Light
Tekken
Ninja Gaiden 3
FIFA 12
Madden 12
Driver
Lego City Stories

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Other facts: (GTTV interview with Reggie, thanks to hiero and others)


The price point of the system will be competitive to the current prices of the PS3, 360 in terms of value
The games shown for Wii U at the show were actually PS3 and 360 versions but the Wii U will look the same or better
No BluRay Support
Controller's screen is single-touch
Backwards compatible with the Wii's Games, but no upscaling is done
Nintendo Online system to be announced by the end of the week



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YouTube - &#x202a;Wii U E3 Tech Demo [HD]&#x202c;&rlm;
YouTube - &#x202a;Nintendo Wii U - E3 2011: Announcement Trailer&#x202c;&rlm;

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Okay I don't care how ugly the controller is, that thing is awesome!

[CatalystiCam]

I'm wondering if it's intentional to buy the usual 4 controllers because the cost of those things must be insane. Since they showed other players playing with wii motes, maybe not? Either way that means 5-player games which is kind of cool.

[StarfoxFan2009]

I agree. I am really amazed at the things they did to pull this out.

[Tails]

So wait, a Handheld Console?

[Mareeps]

The Wii U?

http://i.acdn.us/image/A9314/931409/300_931409.jpg

[Kong]

Steven, your video helped explain it better.

The example uses from the video
1. Play the game on the controller instead of the TV.
2. Draw.
3. Use it in baseball to aim your pitch and catch the ball - kind of a personalized picture in picture thing.
4. Use it to project an image of your golf ball on the ground while you swing a Wii Wand as a club.
5. Play your game portably without a TV.
6. Use it as a scope.
7. Project an image of a throwing star on it and slide your hand across it to throw them.
8. Video calls.
9. Surf the web.
10. Send you tube videos from controller to tv.
11. Aditional content such as maps can be listed on your controller.


My opinion of their examples (sorry for the negativity)
1. Why did you buy a console if you wanted a handheld. If this is an important feature then it would be better done as an add on for the DS than embeded into the controller. Or by buying a second tv. They repeated this example a couple times. Always, if that is what you wanted then use your phone or your DS, not your console.
2. Ok Picaso, how much fun can you have playing Mario Paint and Color a Dinosaur. If you want to seriously do digital drawing then use a PC with a digital pen, you will get much better results.
3. I'm not sure what I think about this. I can see it possibly being put to good use or possibly being gimmicky. I still think special an add on for the ds for the few times you will use this feature would have been a better than a permenant screen in the controller.
4. Gimmicky. Cann't you just use your imagination and pretend you see your golf ball on the ground. Or just put a real golf ball down there. Adds nothing to the game.
5. Again, that is what a handheld like a DS or a phone is for, not your console.
6. This is just a repeat of number 3.
7. How long are you going to have fun doing that. Why do you need the image projected on the controller, you aren't even looking at it. You are looking at the screen. Seems very bulky. If that is something that looks fun (which it is not) then couldn't they just have a small normal size controller that could detect slidding on the back of it without a screen instead of this.
8. If you want this feature then by an Android phone or a web cam. Your does not need to compete with your phone.
9. Seriously, are you going to be surfing the web on your game controller. Is it worth that big screen on your controller while you are playing games just so you have this option the one or two times when it might be convienent.
10. I imagine they will exploit this idea a lot by putting lots of menus on the controller and treating it as a fancy tv remote control. An Android phone will do this type of stuff better.
11. How often will this be handy? How difficult is it to bring up a map screen or an overlay or an image in a corner. I can see it being good in two player games when you need secrets such as calling a play in football games but there are already pretty good solutions for that without a bulky expensive controller.

All of those option might make a good commercial but none of them are very practical and all are gimmicky. Gimmicks get old fast.

The video did make it look like you can use standard Wii controls which is good. I was wondering if that would be an option.

[Slime Slayer]

Decent points Kong, however your missing the point. This is not the Wii U, this is just the controller. If they want to include a ton neat features, then why not. This is all on top of simply being a functional controller.

[Dudebro]

If this was being made by MS or Sony the tone in this topic would be much different.

That tech demo was very unimpressive. It's like a hi res trailer for any normal game coming out. I say normal because it's not above average.

The only cool thing about the new controller is the ability to switch from TV to controller and keep playing. But even that isn't a big deal really. I would just wait to play it on a real screen rather than play it like a big goofy gameboy.

The price point of the system will be competitive to the current prices of the PS3, 360 in terms of valueWhich most likely means it will cost more but they will market it as a good value to offset the cost.
The games shown for Wii U at the show were actually PS3 and 360 versions but the Wii U will look the same or betterI'll curious how true this will be. So far the videos they did show looked like PS3/xbox360 games from a year or two ago. Nothing impressed me so far.

Also, what Kong said.

[CrispyChicken]

@Tenser- Thank you so much!! :D

I love Paper Mario, Super Mario, Mario Kart, LoZ: OoT, Luigi's Mansion 2, and Starfox!!
I'm going to buy a lot of 3DS games :p

[Kugyince]

Mario Kart Impressions - Impressions - Nintendo World Report (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/impressions/26628)

The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword Impressions - Impressions - Nintendo World Report (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/impressions/26621)

Kirby Impressions - Impressions - Nintendo World Report (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/impressions/26620)

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@SH: Thanks for the new avatar.

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Ubisoft Reveals Plans for Five Wii U Titles - News - Nintendo World Report (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/26626)

Namco Bandai Announces Three Games for Nintendo Platforms - News - Nintendo World Report (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/26622)

[Kong]

This is all on top of simply being a functional controller.That is exactly my point, it is NOT a functional controller.

Would you call the Jaguar controller functional? If not then I think it is a very far fan boy stretch to say the we you gimmicks sit on top of a functional controller.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Atari_jaguar_controller.jpg

... ....The games shown for Wii U at the show were actually PS3 and 360 versions but the Wii U will look the same or better ... ..I don't think it is a very strong move to demo your games on your 5 year old competition.

... ....The price point of the system will be competitive to the current prices of the PS3, 360 in terms of value ... ..That is a very fishy sentence. "In terms of value"?

[Kugyince]

Would you call the Jaguar controller functional?

Yep, but I liked this as well:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_KqLKZFRTHM8/S1nXTz3CjuI/AAAAAAAABvE/FeaLRGUOIgo/s320/coleco_colecovision_controller.jpg

[Slime Slayer]

Well regardless of the nay sayers, bottom line is Nintendo killed it again this year. First place by quite a margine.

[Dudebro]

Btw that example of the controller being able to aim with a crosshair isn't really cool. The interactivity is cool for sure but then you have this tablet sized obstruction blocking your field of vision. Seems pointless like the virtual golf ball.

[StarfoxFan2009]

I wonder if they'll update their internet. It would be a blast if they did

[Dudebro]

@Steven- not hard to win when Sony is still looking like crap from it's moronic security issues and MS barely tried.

[Kugyince]

First of two developer roundtables is tonight. Ninty usually announces one more big game during these (OoT3DS, LoZ:SS, Pikmin, etc...)

E3 2011: Nintendo Developer Roundtable Live Blog - Wii Feature at IGN (http://wii.ign.com/articles/117/1173797p1.html#disqus_thread)

[Tails]

Would this be in 20 min?

[Kugyince]

Who expects the aircraft to go up when you press up and who expect it to go down? People who expect it to go up grew up on Sega games.

:p

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Currently going through the ten 3D trailers available on the 3DS.

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-Mario Kart 3DS 60 fps.

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Retro Studios is helping on Mario Kart.

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-onto Skyward Sword

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-live Skyward demo

[Kong]

Who expects the aircraft to go up when you press up and who expect it to go down? People who expect it to go up grew up on Sega games.

Shenanigans.

Top Gun (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/4324/) » Nintendo (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/nintendo/)

Show me an NES flight simulator that doesn't use up for down.

[Kugyince]

-skyward sword demo leaves possibility of a jump button

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Shenanigans.

Top Gun (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/4324/) » Nintendo (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/nintendo/)

Show me an NES flight simulator that doesn't use up for down.


It's called a joke.

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-LoZ;SS is about the creation of the Master Sword

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-focus on exploration

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-On to Mario 3DS

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-SMB3 roots but in a 3D environment

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-SMB3 with dash and M64 moves, end flags instead of stars

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-Koopalings

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-fortress miniboss from smb3 is back

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-possibly no punch or spin, all butt stomp and jumping?

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LoZ:ALttP designed Mario level?!!?

[Tails]

That'd be cool.

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LoZ:ALttP designed Mario level?!!?

^ wut

[Kugyince]

top down level designed like ALttP, moving spikes, zelda music, etc...

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-Luigi's Mansion 2 early 2012

[Kong]

It's called a joke.If that is a joke, I do not get it. Care to explain it to me. Are you saying he was intentionally and obviously being sarcastic and knew that he was being misleading? Or that he was serious but you knew he was wrong?

Anyways, while you were typing that it was a joke I was looking for stats to back me up (I think I have a problem, why can't I just let people on the Internet be wrong.)

These are all of the First Person Flight Sims on NES and SMS that I am aware of.

NES that define up as down.
After Burner (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/10680/) » Nintendo (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/nintendo/)
Destination Earthstar (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/1018/) » Nintendo (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/nintendo/)
F-117A Stealth Fighter (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/10766/) » Nintendo (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/nintendo/)
F-15 Strike Eagle (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/10765/) » Nintendo (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/nintendo/)
Flight of the Intruder (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/1402/) » Nintendo (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/nintendo/)
Star Voyager (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/3834/) » Nintendo (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/nintendo/)
Stealth ATF (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/3853/) » Nintendo (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/nintendo/)
Top Gun (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/4324/) » Nintendo (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/nintendo/)
Ultimate Air Combat (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/4418/) » Nintendo (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/nintendo/)

NES games where down is down
F-15 City War (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/10700/) » Nintendo (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/nintendo/)
Laser Invasion (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/10717/) » Nintendo (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/nintendo/)
Star Voyager (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/3834/) » Nintendo (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/nintendo/)

SMS games with up is down.
Ace of Aces (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/43/) » Sega (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/sega/)
After Burner (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/102/) » Sega (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/sega/)

SMS games with down is down.
G-Loc Air Battle (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/1467/) » Sega (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/sega/) Default is up is up but has an option to select reverse.
Galaxy Force (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/1486/) » Sega (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/sega/)

On both systems all non-first person games that I know of use down is down.

75% of NES games use the backwards controls while only 50% of SMS games do.

[Kugyince]

Only reason LM2 was made was beause Miyamoto wanted to

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If that is a joke, I do not get it. Care to explain it to me. Are you saying he was intentionally and obviously being sarcastic and knew that he was being misleading? Or that he was serious but you knew he was wrong?

Anyways, while you were typing that it was a joke I was looking for stats to back me up (I think I have a problem, why can't I just let people on the Internet be wrong.)

These are all of the First Person Flight Sims on NES and SMS that I am aware of.

NES that define up as down.
After Burner (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/10680/) » Nintendo (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/nintendo/)
Destination Earthstar (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/1018/) » Nintendo (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/nintendo/)
F-117A Stealth Fighter (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/10766/) » Nintendo (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/nintendo/)
F-15 Strike Eagle (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/10765/) » Nintendo (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/nintendo/)
Flight of the Intruder (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/1402/) » Nintendo (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/nintendo/)
Star Voyager (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/3834/) » Nintendo (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/nintendo/)
Stealth ATF (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/3853/) » Nintendo (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/nintendo/)
Top Gun (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/4324/) » Nintendo (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/nintendo/)
Ultimate Air Combat (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/4418/) » Nintendo (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/nintendo/)

NES games where down is down
F-15 City War (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/10700/) » Nintendo (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/nintendo/)
Laser Invasion (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/10717/) » Nintendo (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/nintendo/)
Star Voyager (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/3834/) » Nintendo (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/nintendo/)

SMS games with up is down.
Ace of Aces (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/43/) » Sega (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/sega/)
After Burner (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/102/) » Sega (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/sega/)

SMS games with down is down.
G-Loc Air Battle (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/1467/) » Sega (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/sega/) Default is up is up but has an option to select reverse.
Galaxy Force (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/1486/) » Sega (http://retrouprising.com/game-menu/sega/)

On both systems all non-first person games that I know of use down is down.

75% of NES games use the backwards controls while only 50% of SMS games do.

Re-read his statement. He said if you press up and expect to go up you grew upon sega games. i.e. not-inverted controls = sega.

Also, yes it was a joke, he laughed when he said it.

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-Next level working on LM2

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@Kong: thanks for doing all that research after misreading the quote though. :P

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-Toad in LM2

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-LM2 50% action, 50% puzzle

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-Q&A

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-some retard asks where the more casual games are *facepalm*

[Tails]

^lmao I just read that xD

Slowed down a bit tho.

[Kugyince]

A: 3DS is more focused on bringing traditional experiences to this new platform, so that's where he's personally focusing his attention on.

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Q: What's been your experience about the way boys and girls play your various franchises differently? *double facepalm*

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where's the questions on the !@%$%@#$ games!

[Kong]

Re-read his statement. Oh, whoops. I totally misread it and thought he was taking a jab at Sega and saying they did it the stupid way.

Most people agree with me that reverse is stupid right?

[Kugyince]

Most people agree with me that reverse is stupid right?

Completely disagree. That's how it is with a flight yoke, that's how it should be on a d-pad.

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Oh, whoops. I totally misread it and thought he was taking a jab at Sega and saying they did it the stupid way.

Yes, he took a jab at sega, yes they did it the stupid way, no he didn't mean anything by it. Ninty and Sega are pretty tight partners these days.

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Q: Is Skyward Sword the last Ninty game for the Wii?

A: I don't know

[Slime Slayer]

I like up to go down.

I just came 10 seconds from starting a topic in the support forum: "weird typing noise comming from speakers" ugh I'm such a moron.

[Kugyince]

-He jokes that he said if he can't convince people Star Fox is a fun game to play with Star Fox 3D, this will be the last one. So they're working VERY hard on it.

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Last Q: What happened with the Wii Vitality Sensor?


*I hate people*

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A: Dev problems.

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One more Q: Why doesn't the Raccoon tail have the flight ability it did in SMB3? And where did the idea of raccoons and flight come from?

[StarfoxFan2009]

Does this mean there's stiil hope for a console Starfox title?

[Kugyince]

side note: should be one more dev panel tomorrow though that one usually focuses on 3rd party games.

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A: They went with the style of Raccoon suit that doesn't fly because it would be difficult to do on such a small screen. (Seems like a cop out to me)

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Idea came from wanting to put a tail on Mario. Wanted to use tail for him to do spin move.. Once tail was on him, he thoughtm we have this great tail, can't we do something cool with this? The fluttering motion would make him lighter so he could float farther. It felt so good he was like.... oh, let's just make him fly.

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-10year anniv of LM and Pikmin

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-Pimin 3 for Wii-U, probably launch title.

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-Miyamoto was asked not to mention it yet but he wanted to so he did.

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-and done

[Slime Slayer]

Thanks Tenser.

[Seahawk]

@SH: Thanks for the new avatar.

Word, it was the least I could for you making this a one stop shop for Nintendo news.

[Kong]

Completely disagree. That's how it is with a flight yoke, that's how it should be on a d-pad.On a flight yoke back is down and forward is up. A d-pad is different. But whatever, doesn't matter, I would hate flight sims either way.

[Seahawk]

Nintendo's official info release about the new machine.



Launches: 2012
Size: Approximately 1.8 inches tall, 6.8 inches wide and 10.5 inches long.
New Controller: The new controller incorporates a 6.2-inch, 16:9 touch screen and traditional button controls, including two analog Circle Pads. This combination removes the traditional barriers between games, players and the TV by creating a second window into the video game world. The rechargeable controller includes a Power button, Home button, +Control Pad, A/B/X/Y buttons, L/R buttons and ZL/ZR buttons. It includes a built-in accelerometer and gyroscope, rumble feature, camera, a microphone, stereo speakers, a sensor strip and a stylus.
Other Controls: Up to four Wii Remote™ (or Wii Remote Plus) controllers can be connected at once. The new console supports all Wii™ controllers and input devices, including the Nunchuk™ controller, Classic ControllerTM, Classic Controller ProTM and Wii Balance Board™.
Media: A single self-loading media bay will play 12-centimeter proprietary high-density optical discs for the new console, as well as 12-centimeter Wii optical discs.
Video Output: Supports 1080p, 1080i, 720p, 480p and 480i. Compatible cables include HDMI, component, S-video and composite.
Audio Output: Uses AV Multi Out connector. Six-channel PCM linear output through HDMI.
Storage: The console will have internal flash memory, as well as the option to expand its memory using either an SD memory card or an external USB hard disk drive.
CPU: IBM Power [PC?] ®-based multi-core microprocessor.
Other: Four USB 2.0 connector slots are included. The new console is backward compatible with Wii games and Wii accessories.

The console (http://e3.nintendo.com/_ui/img/hw/playstyle/hardware/1.jpg)
http://e3.nintendo.com/_ui/img/hw/playstyle/hardware/1.jpg

The controller (http://e3.nintendo.com/_ui/img/hw/playstyle/hardware/2.jpg)
http://e3.nintendo.com/_ui/img/hw/playstyle/hardware/2.jpg

http://e3.nintendo.com/hw/#/about

Compatibility - I'm assuming that it will be Gamecube compatible as well even if it's not mentioned (still PowerPC architecture).
Flash memory - This thing had better have a boatload of flash, and no limits on download filesizes on the online shops.
Media - I knew they wouldn't make it use Blu-Ray discs.

[Dudebro]

Other Controls: Up to four Wii Remote™ (or Wii Remote Plus) controllers can be connected at once. The new console supports all Wii™ controllers and input devices, including the Nunchuk™ controller, Classic ControllerTM, Classic Controller ProTM and Wii Balance Board™.
Glad to hear this part. Maybe if GC games still work they'll have a port for the controllers? Doubt it but anythings possible.

[Seahawk]

Maybe if GC games still work they'll have a port for the controllers? Doubt it but anythings possible.

If it supports GC games then it will have to have the GC ports, the Wii controllers don't have enough buttons and that tablet controller would be a horrendous monster to control GC games with. GC games can't recognize the Wii remotes anyways (no Bluetooth hardware on GC). Unless Nintendo wants to do software emulation to hack in support (please don't, please) which is pointless since the CPU is still PowerPC.
I'm a little concerned on this because assuming the GC ports are under that cover in the picture, that is a small space to cram in 4 GC ports and 4 USB ports. Then again there are no pictures of the top and side views yet. Wait and see I guess.

[Dudebro]

Wait and see I guess.
Fingers crossed. ;)

[Kugyince]

GoNintendo - Cube controllers not supported on Wii U (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=160199)

[Tails]

Nintendo Admits It Used PS3 and Xbox Footage in Wii U Presentation - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/zd/20110608/tc_zd/265413)

[Kugyince]

2nd developer's round table will feature Ubisoft. I dislike Ubisoft greatly so I'm not interested.

They're only talking about Ubi's 5 launch titles for Wii-U:
Ghost Recon Future Soldier, Ghost Recon Online, Killer Freaks, Assassin's Creed, and Raving Rabbids.

Here it is if you're interested:
GoNintendo - Nintendo Third Party Roundtable live-blog (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=160257)

[Dudebro]

@Tails- I thought Tenser already posted about them coming right out and admitting that?

@Tenser- Lame about no GC controllers.

[jim5cents]

I prefer the inverted controls. On FPS, I still set my controls to invert.

[CatalystiCam]

No GC controllers is lame, I agree, but I definitely saw it coming. Not really a surprise...

I was looking at a list of 3ds games coming and stumbled upon a few cool things like a contra game and yet another Donkey Kong game. It was just called Donkey Kong 3d so I'd imagine it may be another 3d game?

these were both TBA 2012 I believe and they were on Wikipedia so who knows.

[Slime Slayer]

@Tails- I thought Tenser already posted about them coming right out and admitting that?
At no point was it ever supposed to be secret, some journalist just decided he needed a headline.

[Dudebro]

That's what I mean it's not like they tried to lie about it from what I read. Still a questionable move but it's not deception.

[Seahawk]

Wii U Not Backwards Compatible with GameCube Games (http://www.1up.com/news/wii-u-not-backwards-compatible-gamecube-games)

Total bummer. Why not when it supports all other Wii features?!? They're the same freaking CPU platform -_-;.

[Dudebro]

They want you to buy controllers.

[Seahawk]

I'd just take it up the rear and use the tablet monstrosity if I had to just so I could play F-Zero GX and Viewtiful Joe at 1080, but no support for anything at all? Weak sauce.

[Dudebro]

Could buy one of those Wii classic controllers for cheap probably. Kinda like a snes controller from the looks of it.

[Seahawk]

I think you missed the point, there's no support at all. As in it's not going to play Gamecube games.

[Dudebro]

Yeah I did miss your link. I didn't click it because I thought it was similar to the one Tenser linked about no GC controllers, my bad. So that really sucks then.

[Slime Slayer]

This might interest some people, helps demonstrate the potential anyway:
Finally, a Game Shows What the Wii U Can Really Do (http://kotaku.com/5810573/finally-a-game-shows-what-the-wii-u-can-really-do)

[CatalystiCam]

Well, is it really so terrible? About GC I mean. That's technically 2 generations ago and double-backwards compatibility is something that never seems to really exist, and if it does, they remove it (ps3, kind of a weird case there actually). Besides, anyone that wants to play gc games can hang on to their GC and/or wii, right? I still am on board though, if it's simple enough to do, then why remove GC?

[Kugyince]

This might interest some people, helps demonstrate the potential anyway:
Finally, a Game Shows What the Wii U Can Really Do (http://kotaku.com/5810573/finally-a-game-shows-what-the-wii-u-can-really-do)

Looks retarded.

[Dudebro]

The commercial itself was pretty bad but the touch screen strategic planning thing seems to have potential. Other games have done the battlefield commander thing before but none had this device to do it on.

[Seahawk]

Well, is it really so terrible? About GC I mean. That's technically 2 generations ago and double-backwards compatibility is something that never seems to really exist

In the past the physical media changed between each system (different cartridge type) as well as completely different processor designs. Not so anymore, everything is optical disc based. And double not so with the GC/Wii/U systems, they are all PowerPC based hardware, using Nintendo's custom optical disc format.

and if it does, they remove it (ps3, kind of a weird case there actually)

All PS3s play PS1 games. All of them. PS2 games are the issue with some system, but it is STILL possible to buy one at stores.

Besides, anyone that wants to play gc games can hang on to their GC and/or wii, right?

Of course, but it's annoying have to have multiple compatible consoles that can play the mostly the same games on the same TV.

I still am on board though, if it's simple enough to do, then why remove GC?

It's just cost, they'd have to add the ports, whatever mechanism to take the small GC discs, the GC BIOS somewhere, maybe other things.


To be clear I'm not ultra mad about this, there is no benefit for Nintendo to keep supporting GC. It was the same story when they dropped GB/C support on the DS and later removed the GBA slot on the DSi and up even those systems could play the old games. But this should have been every easy to implement anyways, and it would have been a great thing because the GC has a far better library than the Wii ever will have.

[Kugyince]

My guess is that they're hoping to charge you for Gamecube VC content.

The only benefit of that being is that if GC is available on the VC, Dreamcast might be as well.

[Slime Slayer]

Dreamcast might be as well.
Never thought of this, that would be awesome.

[CatalystiCam]

To be clear I'm not ultra mad about this, there is no benefit for Nintendo to keep supporting GC. It was the same story when they dropped GB/C support on the DS and later removed the GBA slot on the DSi and up even those systems could play the old games. But this should have been every easy to implement anyways, and it would have been a great thing because the GC has a far better library than the Wii ever will have.

No argument there. Didn't enjoy much the wii had to offer either. It's kind of to be expected though. When I said the PS3 was a weird case now, I meant it was because it was double-backwards compatible, yet not backwards compatible, and thus its compatibility level was still to only one other console. Kind of hard to explain what I mean.

I kind of doubt any console will support the whole double-backward compatibility thing since there really isn't much for them to gain in that sense besides what, people selling their GC's? That doesn't really effect Nintendo either way as far as I know.

My guess is that they're hoping to charge you for Gamecube VC content.

The only benefit of that being is that if GC is available on the VC, Dreamcast might be as well.

That would be kind of cool being that it's hard to come across the games you want and gamecube emulation isn't possible unless you have a 64bit pc (yes, I tried on a 32bit vista).

Dreamcast? Well, if they're supporting disc media, I don't see why it wouldn't happen. They are already doing SMS, Genesis, and now apparently Game Gear.

Personally I think nintendo might make more off a VC with consoles like Dreamcast & Gamecube offering their games for download, since like I said, emulation for those is difficult (at least, so I've heard for DC, haven't tried)

[Dudebro]

That would be kind of cool being that it's hard to come across the games you want and gamecube emulation isn't possible
Have fun paying ridiculous prices for GC games you could probably order online for much cheaper prices.

[Kugyince]

The other nice thing would be that you wouldn't need a stupid memory card.

Either way I couldn't care less. The Gamecube sucked as far as I'm concerned.

Then again I have zero interest in the Wii-U either.

[Dudebro]

Btw how come I haven't heard anyone making this connection?
We + You = Us

I can see why Nintendo wouldn't want to call their new console US though, all the japanophiles would lose their minds and cry.

[Kugyince]

All I know is that if you say Wii-U over and over again it sounds like a siren.

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http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/8991d340705870bec191e1fb43086139.jpg

[CrispyChicken]

Haha! Nice Tenser :p Third picture is the best.

[Tails]

http://fanboys-online.com/comics/20110613.jpg

[DrunkN]

http://fanboys-online.com/comics/20110613.jpg
Gotta love a Reggie joke.

[Slime Slayer]

This one flew under my radar:
YouTube - &#x202a;Wii - Fortune Street E3 Trailer&#x202c;&rlm;
Mario characters and DQ characters crossover, sweet.

[Winnebagel]

Late to the party, but just gotta say, I just heard about the Wii U system for the first time yesterday. It looks awful!!! I hope that it ends up being good, but the controller looks wretched.

[Slime Slayer]

Holy late to the party Bartman!

[Winnebagel]

Holy late to the party Bartman!

I know. Haven't been on much lately. :-[

[Tails]

We miss ya WB, get done with your IRL duties!